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You should have stayed for a proper , competative meeting between two decent sides

Heat 15, he went for a gap to overtake Jye Etheridge, there was contact, Jye came off, Cook was excluded. Nothing wrong with the move, it was hard, there was a gap, he went for it. The decision was right. There was bravado afterwards, finger pointing, threats, pantomime stuff. It all added to the atmosphere. The noise generated by both sets of fans in the second meeting was brilliant and this just ramped it up a bit. Glasgow meetings are always special, because they bring a load of fans. The more fans create a better atmosphere. There is a good bond between the two clubs as well. Cook is the rider Berwick fans love to hate, mainly because of his time as an Edinburgh rider and the fact he is so bloody good around the place. I reckon if you asked Berwick fans they would say that they love booing him but they also admire him because he is damn good to watch around Shielfield.

It certainly looked the part... I remember the grass banks... As we always allude to on here.. That racing last night, played out in front of 1000 punters, would have been deemed devoid of atmosphere, not worth the admission, and unlikely to be revisited again. . Played out in front of 15000 passionate fans, sat and stood close together, and you get a memorable event which will no doubt see many return next year.. The NSS and Cardiff are the perfect example of this. One a great race track which delivers great racing but struggles to get more than 1500 there to generate real atmosphere, and one that delivers average racing but a huge crowd every year to sample the great atmosphere that their very attendance generates... Speedway in the UK really need to cop themselves on that getting a crowd in (however you do it) really does make all the difference to that virtuous circle needed for long term growth.. Great crowds deliver great atmosphere which then delivers an urge to sample it again.. Sadly the vicious circle of low crowds, no atmosphere, and no urge to keep sampling it, appears to be accepted as an inevitability by many..

It's listening to what the riders want that has lead to most tracks becoming boring and processional.

I am sure you had your reasons but I must admit I find it odd that anyone would leave after the first meeting of two. Anyway you missed a cracker.

Having been a qualified accountant for over 40 years I find your offensive comment actually quite amusing as well as your elementary explanation of a profit and loss account. But hey ho, don't let your ignorance stand in the way of your rudeness or inability to provide any factual evidence other than speculative numbers!!

Some comments from Redcar promoter re Eastbourne which I thought were worth sharing. Hear a lot about the negative stuff so worth highlighting the good. Duffill also had words of praise for Eastbourne after what has been an excellent two meetings: “It takes 2 teams to make a great meeting and I have a lot of respect for the Eastbourne team and their promotion who were excellent opposition and were nothing but gracious and complimentary in their defeat. We witnessed true sportsmanship this evening and I can’t thank them and their supporters enough for that.”

Stay on topic Skidder!

Thirty pounds for coach, entrance, programme, great value a great gesture.It will be great to get loads of the Aces fans travelling down for the return leg on there last visit to the Abbey they brought a fair few.

I know this was a dire GP but I'm so pleased to have been able to see it through the kindness of members who sent me a link. I am on a very low wage and cannot afford a BT Sport subscription but I'm dedicated to speedway and am very grateful to have been sent a link so I could see Zmarzlik move into... ahem... pole position tonight.

That’s not correct. Insurance and referee fees increase for a double header, and medical costs and track curator wages may well increase. Two sets of tyres will be required. There is no assurance that the rent won’t attract a premium for a double-header. Bear in mind that for any ‘supplier’ to the Club except the riders, a double-header reduces their income opportunity (nine league events instead of ten) so they could well look to secure their income by charging more. Double-headers are never comfortable financially.

Dont know what's happened to LCG lately but she's really not nice these days!

Whoever thought the signing of MBA was a good idea to replace Sarj must be deluded. This signing has to go down as one of the worst signings i can remember in recent times , the injury to Starke and this signing has put as from a good team to a mediocre one at best.

Likewise if we had Starke . But without the it's and buts , it was still a very good meeting

Dont know what I have done to deserve that remark and no history as far as I know. We are even friends on Facebook. Strange but its perhaps because I used to be a Coventry fan and hate Poole.

Might help if he wasn't so aggressive and insulting to other posters!

So if someone says go kill yourself that's okay, and if people say that comment is out of order that's bullying???? Seriously. As my man Dizzy would say, BONKERS

I think having the meetings in the run up to the Play Offs is a good thing for Swindon, keeps them race fit as it were. A coach load of Swindon fans will be making the journey to the NSS after an agreement between the 2 clubs to lay on transport at presumably subsidised rates and fair play to both promotions for agreeing to this, many get a raw deal on here but that is some welcome planning and something I would like to see more of.

MIDLAND DEVELOPMENT LEAGUE 2019 (League Matches excluding only, bonus points) Compiled by Mike Moseley. RIDER MEETINGS RIDES POINTS BP TOTAL AVERAGE Kieran Douglas 1 2 6 0 6 12.00 Connor King 2 7 20 0 20 11.43 Chad Wirtzfeld 5 14 39 0 39 11.14 Tom Spencer 6 18 47 3 50 10.44 Sheldon Davies 4 11 28 4 32 10.18 Arran Butcher 11 34 86 2 88 10.12 Jamie Bursill 3 7 17 0 17 9.71 Joe Alcock 5 15 36 1 37 9.60 Elliot Kelly 2 5 12 0 12 9.60 Jacob Clouting 3 9 21 0 21 9.33 James Laker 10 29 69 1 70 9.52 Chris Watts 10 31 67 1 68 8.65 Saul Bulley 6 18 37 2 39 8.22 Nick Laurence 8 23 47 2 49 8.17 Luke Muff 8 23 46 1 47 8.00 Danny Woodward 8 27 51 3 54 7.56 Adam Sheppard 10 26 49 3 52 7.54 William O’Keefe 10 28 52 4 56 7.43 Sam Norris 3 10 18 0 18 7.20 James Chattin 10 32 56 4 60 7.00 Luke Whitehead 2 8 14 1 15 7.00 Stephen Whitehouse 5 16 28 0 28 7.00 Luke Barnes 3 6 10 1 11 6.67 Adam Barber 4 12 19 7 26 6.33 Kai Ward 5 15 23 4 27 6.13 Morgan Williams 8 20 29 5 34 5.80 Bailey Fellows 6 18 24 8 32 5.33 Max Pankhurst 5 14 18 7 25 5.14 Jamie Sealey 9 27 32 5 37 4.74 Rhys Laker 9 28 33 8 41 4.71 George Beall 2 6 7 0 7 4.67 Kris Andrews 7 21 24 7 31 4.57 Tim Colley 9 28 29 3 32 4.14 Jamie Evans 1 3 3 0 3 4.00 Ben Ilsley 8 22 22 9 31 4.00 James Luckham 2 6 6 3 9 4.00 Craig Nethercott 1 3 3 1 4 4.00 James Spencer 9 27 26 6 32 3.85 Jacob Fellows 8 24 22 6 28 3.67 Andrew Palmer 3 9 8 2 10 3.56 James Jessop 5 14 12 1 13 3.43 Ben Phillips 5 11 9 1 10 3.27 Eli Meadows 8 23 17 8 25 2.96 Russell Barnett 1 3 2 1 3 2.67 Darren Carr 1 3 2 1 3 2.67 Kean Dicken 1 3 2 2 4 2.67 Ben Phillips 7 17 11 1 12 2.59 Sam Peters 9 27 14 3 17 2.07 Francesca Kirtley-Paine 8 24 11 1 12 1.83 Sam Boon 5 12 4 0 4 1.33 Craig Osborne 5 15 4 2 6 1.07 Lawrence Fielding 3 8 2 0 2 1.00 Rachel Hellowell 3 9 1 0 1 0.44 Stephanie Whitlock 1 3 0 0 0 0.00 MIDLAND & SOUTHERN DEVELOPMENT LEAGUE AVERAGES 2019 League matches only. Averages don't include bonus points. (Compiled by Mike Moseley) BIRMINGHAM RIDER MAT RIDES POINTS BP TOTAL AVERAGE Tom Spencer 6 18 47 3 50 10.44 Sheldon Davies 4 11 28 4 32 10.18 Arran Butcher 11 34 86 2 88 10.12 Luke Muff 1 3 7 0 7 9.33 Ben Phillips 1 3 6 1 7 8.00 Bailey Fellows 6 18 24 8 32 5.33 Jacob Fellows 8 24 22 6 28 3.67 Kean Dicken 1 3 2 2 4 2.67 Rachel Hellowell 3 9 1 0 1 0.44 CARMARTHEN Joe Alcock 5 15 36 1 37 9.60 Elliot Kelly 1 3 6 0 6 8.00 Danny Woodward 8 27 51 3 54 7.56 Luke Whitehead 2 8 14 1 15 7.00 Luke Barnes 3 6 10 1 11 6.67 Adam Barber 4 12 19 7 26 6.33 Tim Colley 9 28 29 3 32 4.14 Ben Phillips 3 7 2 0 2 1.14 Lawrence Fielding 3 8 2 0 2 1.00 EXETER Jamie Bursill 1 2 5 0 5 10.00 Saul Bulley 6 18 37 2 39 8.22 Adam Sheppard 9 22 44 1 45 8.00 James Chattin 9 29 50 4 54 6.90 Kai Ward 5 15 23 4 27 6.13 Max Pankhurst 5 14 18 7 25 5.14 Kris Andrews 7 21 24 7 31 4.57 Craig Nethercott 1 3 3 1 4 3.00 ISLE OF WIGHT Chad Wirtzfeld 5 14 39 0 39 11.14 Connor King 1 4 11 0 11 11.00 Chris Watts 10 31 67 1 68 8.65 Morgan Williams 8 20 29 7 36 5.80 Eli Meadows 1 3 4 2 6 5.33 Jamie Sealey 9 27 32 5 37 4.74 Ben Ilsley 8 22 22 9 31 4.00 James Luckham 2 6 6 3 9 4.00 MILTON KEYNES Connor King 1 3 9 0 9 12.00 James Chattin 1 3 6 0 6 8.00 Luke Muff 7 20 39 1 40 7.80 Stephen Whitehouse 4 13 25 0 25 7.69 George Beall 2 6 7 0 7 4.67 Eli Meadows 2 5 5 2 7 4.00 Ben Phillips 1 3 3 0 3 4.00 James Spencer 9 27 26 6 32 3.85 Sam Boon 5 12 4 0 4 1.33 Craig Osborne 5 15 4 2 6 1.07 Sam Peters 1 4 1 0 1 1.00 Stephanie Whitlock 1 3 0 0 0 0.00 READING Jacob Clouting 1 3 9 0 9 12.00 Kieran Douglas 1 2 6 0 6 12.00 Elliot Kelly 1 2 6 0 6 12.00 Jamie Bursill 2 5 12 0 12 9.60 Nick Laurence 8 23 47 2 49 8.17 William O’Keefe 10 28 52 4 56 7.43 Sam Norris 3 10 18 0 18 7.20 Adam Sheppard 1 4 5 2 7 5.00 Rhys Laker 9 28 33 8 41 4.71 Russell Barnett 1 3 2 1 3 2.67 Eli Meadows 5 15 8 4 12 2.13 Ben Phillips 1 3 0 0 0 0.00 WEYMOUTH James Laker 10 29 69 1 70 9.52 Jacob Clouting 2 6 12 0 12 8.00 Jamie Evans 1 3 3 0 3 4.00 Stephen Whitehouse 1 3 3 0 3 4.00 Andrew Palmer 3 9 8 2 10 3.56 James Jessop 5 14 12 1 13 3.43 Darren Carr 1 3 2 1 3 2.67 Sam Peters 8 23 13 3 16 2.26 Cesca Kirtley-Paine 8 24 11 1 12 1.83 Ben Phillips 1 1 0 0 0 0.00 MIDLAND & SOUTHERN DEVELOPMENT LEAGUE 2019 Compiled by Mike Moseley TEAM MAT WON DRAWN LOST FOR AGAINST TOTAL Birmingham 11 9 0 2 223 157 18 Exeter 11 8 0 3 204 167 16 Isle of Wight 11 7 0 4 210 169 14 Reading 11 6 0 5 198 173 12 Carmarthen 10 5 0 5 169 173 10 Milton Keynes 10 1 1 8 129 216 3 Weymouth 10 0 1 9 133 211 1 BIRMINGHAM 1st May 2019 BIRMINGHAM 26: Tom Spencer 8 Arran Butcher 8 Sheldon Davies 7 Jacob Fellows 3 READING 10: Nick Laurence 4 Sam Norris 3 William O’Keefe 3 Ben Phillips 0 29th May 2019 BIRMINGHAM 27: Tom Spencer 9 Sheldon Davies 7 Ben Phillips 6 Arran Butcher 5 MILTON KEYNES 8: Luke Muff 4 George Beall 3 Craig Osborne 1 Sam Boon 0 3rd July 2019 BIRMINGHAM 21: Tom Spencer 9 Arran Butcher 7 Bailey Fellows 4 Jacob Fellows 1 ISLE OF WIGHT 15: Chris Watts 7 Eli Meadows 4 Morgan Williams 3 Ben Ilsley 1 24th July 2019 BIRMINGHAM 21: Arran Butcher 12 Sheldon Davies 5 Jacob Fellows 4 Rachel Hellowell 0 EXETER 15: Saul Bulley 6 Adam Sheppard 5 James Chattin 2 Max Pankhurst 2 7th August 2019 BIRMINGHAM 20: Arran Butcher 12 Bailey Fellows 4 Tom Spencer 3 Rachel Hellowell 1 CARMARTHEN 16: Danny Woodward 9 Adam Barber 4 Tim Colley 3 Luke Barnes 0 4th September 2019 BIRMINGHAM 22: Arran Butcher 8 Luke Muff 7 Bailey Fellows 5 Kean Dicken 2 WEYMOUTH 14: James Laker 8 Stephen Whitehouse 3 Sam Peters 2 Francesca Kirtley-Paine 1 CARMARTHEN 22nd June 2019 CARMARTHEN 18: Joe Alcock 6 Adam Barber 5 Tim Colley 4 Luke Barnes 3 WEYMOUTH 12: James Laker 6 James Jessop 4 Francesca Kirtley-Paine 2 Ben Phillips 0 29th June 2019 CARMARTHEN 21: Tim Colley 6 Joe Alcock 6 Luke Whitehead 5 Danny Woodward 4 BIRMINGHANM 14: Arran Butcher 9 Jacob Fellows 3 Bailey Fellows 2 Rachel Hellowell 0 6th July 2019 CARMARTHEN 16: Elliot Kelly 6 Danny Woodward 6 Adam Barber 3 Tim Colley 1 EXETER 19: Adam Sheppard 8 James Chattin 5 Jamie Bursill 5 Kris Andrews 1 31st August 2019 CARMARTHEN 14: Danny Woodward 10 Tim Colley 2 Ben Phillips 2 Lawrence Fielding 0 ISLE OF WIGHT 22: Chad Wirtzfeld 9 Jamie Sealey 5 Chris Watts 5 James Luckman 3 EXETER 24th May 2019 EXETER 20: Saul Bulley 7 James Chattin 6 Kris Andrews 5 Max Pankhurst 2 ISLE OF WIGHT 15: Connor King 11 Morgan Williams 3 Ben Ilsley 1 Jamie Sealey 0 5th July 2019 EXETER 14: Saul Bulley 5 Adam Sheppard 5 Kris Andrews 2 Kai Ward 2 READING 16: Jacob Cloutng 9 Jamie Bursill 4 Russell Barnett 2 William O’Keefe 1 2nd August 2019 EXETER 14: Saul Bulley 4 James Chattin 4 Adam Sheppard 3 Kris Andrews 3 BIRMINGHAM 22: Arran Butcher 11 Tom Spencer 10 Jacob Fellows 1 23rd August 2019 EXETER 16: Kai Ward 8 Adam Sheppard 4 Kris Andrews 4 CARMARTHEN 13: Joe Alcock 12 Lawrence Fielding 1 Tim Colley 0 6th September 2019 EXETER 22: James Chattin 9 Kai Ward 6 Kris Andrews 4 Craig Nethercott 3 MILTON KEYNES 14: Stephen Whitehouse 10 James Spencer 3 Sam Peters 1 ISLE OF WIGHT 2nd May 2019 ISLE OF WIGHT 16: Chris Watts 8 Chad Wirtzfeld 6 Jamie Sealey 2 Ben Ilsley 0 EXETER 20: Saul Bulley 11 Max Pankhurst 5 James Chattin 3 Adam Sheppard 1 23rd May 2019 ISLE OF WIGHT 15: Chris Watts 6 Morgan Williams 4 Jamie Sealey 3 Ben Ilsley 2 CARMARTHEN 21: Joe Alcock 7 Luke Barnes 7 Danny Woodward 6 Tim Colley 1 27th June 2019 ISLE OF WIGHT 21: Chris Watts 9 Jamie Sealey 6 Ben Ilsley 6 Morgan Williams 0 WEYMOUTH 15: James Laker 8 Andrew Palmer 5 Sam Peters 2 Francesca Kirtley-Paine 0 4th July 2019 ISLE OF WIGHT 23: Morgan Williams 8 Chris Watts 7 Ben Ilsley 5 James Luckham 3 MILTON KEYNES 13: Connor King 9 Sam Boon 4 Stephanie Whitlock 0 James Spencer 0 8th August 2019 ISLE OF WIGHT 23: Chad Wirtzfeld 9 Chris Watts 6 Jamie Sealey 5 Morgan Williams 3 READING 13: Jamie Bursill 8 Nick Laurence 2 William O’Keefe 2 Rhys Laker 1 29th August 2019 ISLE OF WIGHT 17: Chad Wirtzfeld 6 Chris Watts 5 Morgan Williams 3 Jamie Sealey 3 BIRMINGHAM 6: Arran Butcher 5 Jacob Fellows 1 MILTON KEYNES 5th June 2019 MILTON KEYNES 7: Stephen Whitehouse 5 James Spencer 2 Craig Osborne 0 Sam Boon 0 READING 23: William O’Keefe 7 Elliot Kelly 6 Kieran Douglas 6 Rhys Laker 4 19th June 2019 MILTON KEYNES 10: Luke Muff 6 Ben Phillips 3 James Spencer 1 Craig Osborne 0 ISLE OF WIGHT 26: Chris Watts 9 Jamie Sealey 6 Ben Ilsley 6 Morgan Williams 5 17th July 2019 MILTON KEYNES 14: Stephen Whitehouse 6 Luke Muff 5 James Spencer 3 Sam Boon 0 CARMARTHEN 21: Danny Woodward 8 Adam Barber 7 Tim Colley 6 Ben Phillips 0 21st August 2019 MILTON KEYNES 7: Luke Muff 4 James Spencer 2 Eli Meadows 1 Sam Boon 0 EXETER 23: James Chattin 9 Adam Sheppard 6 Max Pankhurst 5 Kai Ward 3 22nd August 2019 – Raced at Swindon MILTON KEYNES 24: James Spencer 7 Luke Muff 7 James Chattin 6 Eli Meadows 4 WEYMOUTH 11: James Laker 6 James Jessop 3 Francesca Kirtley-Paine 2 Sam Peters 0 READING 22nd April 2019 READING 16: Sam Norris 9 Adam Sheppard 5 Rhys Laker 2 ISLE OF WIGHT 17: Chad Wirtzfeld 9 Chris Watts 5 Jamie Sealey 2 Ben Ilsley 1 27th May 2019 READING 20: Sam Norris 6 Rhys Laker 5 William O’Keefe 5 Nick Laurence 4 WEYMOUTH 10: James Laker 6 Sam Peters 2 James Jessop 2 Francesca Kirtley-Paine 0 27th June 2019 – Amended Result READING 14: William O’Keefe 7 Nick Laurence 4 Rhys Laker 3 Eli Meadows 0 EXETER 18: Adam Sheppard 6 James Chattin 4 Max Pankhurst 4 Saul Bulley 4 18th July 2019 READING 15: Nick Laurence 7 William O’Keefe 6 Rhys Laker 2 Eli Meadows 0 BIRMINGHAM 21: Sheldon Davies 9 Bailey Fellows 6 Jacob Fellows 5 Arran Butcher 1 26th August 2019 READING 22: Nick Laurence 9 William O’Keefe 7 Rhys Laker 4 Eli Meadows 2 MILTON KEYNES 14: Luke Muff 6 Stephen Whitehouse 4 James Spencer 4 Craig Osborne 0 29th August 2019 READING 25: Nick Laurence 8 William O’Keefe 8 Rhys Laker 6 Eli Meadows 3 CARMARTHEN 11: Tim Colley 6 Danny Woodward 4 Lawrence Fielding 1 Ben Phillips 0 WEYMOUTH 2nd May 2019 WEYMOUTH 18: James Laker 9 Jacob Clouting 6 Sam Peters 2 Francesca Kirtley-Paine 1 MILTON KEYNES 18: Luke Muff 7 James Spencer 4 George Beall 4 Craig Osborne 3 30th May 2019 WEYMOUTH 16: James Laker 8 Francesca Kirtley-Paine 5 Sam Peters 2 Andrew Palmer 1 CARMARTHEN 18: Luke Whitehead 9 Joe Alcock 5 Danny Woodward 4 18th July 2019 WEYMOUTH 13: James Laker 8 James Jessop 3 Sam Peters 2 Francesca Kirtley-Paine 0 EXETER 23: James Chattin 8 Adam Sheppard 6 Kris Andrews 5 Kai Ward 4 1st August 2019 WEYMOUTH 12: Jacob Clouting 6 James Laker 4 Andrew Palmer 2 James Jessop 0 BIRMINGHAM 23: Arran Butcher 8 Tom Spencer 8 Jacob Fellows 4 Bailey Fellows 3 5th September 2019 WEYMOUTH 12: James Laker 6 Jamie Evans 3 Darren Carr 2 Sam Peters 1 READING 24: Nick Laurence 9 Rhys Laker 6 William O’Keefe 6 Eli Meadows 3

Been thinking about posting to this thread for a while-saw the comment re Clive being a middle order rider and with respect I think this applies post 1965. In the Prov. League Clive was a consistent heat leader and a crowd puller- he was either top or second in the Sheffield averages from 61 thru 64. I don't think (request input from historians here) that he had an average below 9 points his entire time with Sheffield!!!. He was second in their averages in 1961 behind Guy Allott and then was either first or second in their averages(changing back and forth with Jack Kitchen) for the rest of the League's existence. Even in the first BL year he was their second heat leader to Jack, ahead of Billy Bales. I checked thru' my programs and discovered that I saw Clive ride in 6 meetings in 65-66. The first time was most memorable-9 July 1965. Clive knocked off Dick Bradley in Heat 6 of a BL clash at Somerton Park. That was Dick's last race-he was 40+ and decided to pack it in. No criticism of Clive meant he was just a tough rider. As an aside - Dick was the Wasps second highest average heat leader at that time and Newport were unable to get a replacement. Newport finished as the highest of the old PL tracks (OK OK I know that Halifax was composed of a large part of the Middlesbro' Bears old team) that year and I wonder if Dick had not been injured we could have ended on top even. We would have had a solid team with 4 heat leaders -Biggs, Bradley, Vandenberg, Golden!! Don't forget we lost only by 40-38 at Wimbledon Second time I saw Clive was at Poole July 28th for a British Semi-Final(that meeting is a story in itself-were any forumlanders there?). Very tough field , Clive got only 2 points , but did finish ahead of Colin Pratt when they met!! Saw him another three times in 1966 riding for CH but to me will always be a Sheffield Tiger(a team that always offered good entertainment). Don't want to downplay the importance of the PL here -in the combined year of 1965 a number of PL riders more than held their own- e.g. Dave Younghusband, Eric Boocock, Colin Pratt, Charlie Monk, Bill Andrew, Pete Kelly , Tommy Sweetman , Roy Trigg etc.etc. So , a tip of the hat to you Clive for providing so much enjoyment to myself and many others. R.I.P. indeed!!!!

Congratulations to the Lions riders and management for finishing the regular season fixtures at the top of the pile. Whilst no silverware in the bag yet it has nevertheless been a great performance and such a turnaround v previous years. Looking forward to the playoffs and of course next weekends cup final n

Are you completely devoid of any common sense.? Having worked behind the scenes at a number of tracks I have experience of how tracks finances work. You clearly have no understanding of incomings versus outgoings. If one meeting brings in , say £8,000 and the cost of that meeting including wages is £6,000 then you have a small profit. Do you understand this so far? Now run the same meeting with your income of £8,000 but double your wage bill and say that cost now comes to £10,000. Youve just lost £2,000. get it???

After last night with a big crowd and great atmosphere does anybody think that IF all 3 teams run next year there could be a place for each club to run a double header against the other two for some sort of northern championship based on aggregate scores or 3 points for a win but not counting as league matches.It could be run with the old 13 heat format to save a bit of time and cost.Would maybe work if the fans would turn up for them and create an atmosphere like last night.

We don't get ANY of the bar takings. What increased takings at the track shop ( a few extra cups of tea?). Would get more neutral fans wanting to pay £17 for a cup final, than say £30 for a double header including a meeting they have no interest in (in my opinion). It makes no sense whatsoever (again, in my opinion).

The theatre on the centre green was all very WWE , great stuff wish it happened more often

Can't believe any fan thinks a double header is a good idea. Same income , double wages. How does that make any sense to anybody??? Then add any possible injuries in the first match, or delays or any incidents whatsoever....No, running it as a double header is a ridiculous idea. We at Workington were forced into running them and look where we are now!

We're all going to Wembley Media Prima arena, we're all going to Wembley Brough Park, nah nah nah na, nah nah nah na (Repeat many times) Well done to everyone - should be a cracking two legs with our nearest and dearest

Vojens only ever served up good racing when it peed down and all the dirt had been removed.. Meaning track craft got you the grip needed to pass.. Last night had too much grip for a track that has tight (ish) turns hence when they rode the wider arc at two thrds track, on that berm of dirt, it was like being on rails (or as much as you could be on a speedway bike)... One (very fast) line, then follow the leader to do the same.. Scott Nicholls made a telling point early in the piece when he mentioned how he thought racing would improve when riders started to feel safer riding closer to each other.. I often wonder how often that effects racing in the UK on some of our tracks..?

A bit of drama and needle is what we need makes for entertainment best atmosphere I’ve seen or experienced at Shielfield for a long time

Gee thanks. Where have I said I condone bullying? I was responding to Steve Shovlars post because the last time I checked this is a forum for opinions and that is mine. Starman is always dishing out insults so he should expect some back. If he gets so wound up by Gavan just sticking him on ignore would be the sensible thing to do.

Same old nonsense. I could mention Barker third to first in heat 6, Gappmaier third to first in heat 8, Doolan passing Heeps in heat 9, Pickering passing Barker in heat 10, Etheridge third to first in heat 13 and Barker passing Heeps in heat 13 but I must have dreamt it. Take your frustration out on your own riders.

Absolute crap. Hope it’s more than another 5 years before I see another meeting at this gaters paradise. Always been the same.

Another crap GP. If only they could select the ten best race tracks in the world and use those.

And you don’t need to jump in to defend Starman

It’s about the same with SoN. Without an event in the UK, youd never qualify for the final...

the admission price is higher bringing more income did the 'number of tracks' were involved in all fold? only the points money increases - extra gate money though.- 1 rent, 1 programme doesn't seem all that complicated

Apart from a few girls, he was the only other reason I went to speedway for a few years whilst a teenager.

Superb speedway in heat 8 13697 in attendance

Knows more than Google.

COULD not agree more ...

We do miss you on here with your side riding in the championship

So the second lot of points money is more than the saved rent? What about increased revenues from Track Shop and Bar? What about the increased attendance from other fans who might be attracted by a Double Header (Workington/Berwick etc). Just wondering as it does seem to make sense to run this as a Double Header

I agree. Wembley didn’t always produce the best racing on world final night, but the atmosphere was amazing.

As Scunny have priority over Friday nights, we gave a Friday night up to come and race at your place.. Why should we have cancelled it?? Get over it and stop moaning about it

I the Cook has taken over the mantel previously held by Ryan Fisher , IMO we could do with some more of the pantomime theatrics it gives the crowd a lift

Where have I said it's okay? So stop with the dumbness. Starman is just wound up by Gavan and it's his way of telling him to get off the thread. But you all know that don't you? Again, why do you have a problem with it if Gavan has said he has laughed it off? Can't answer it can you! He doesn't need you to be offended for him! Anyway since you've started on me at least the gang bullying on Starman has stopped. You think your behaviour would be acceptable at a school. Nope. They would call it...oh yeah bullying.

£10 a match for British speedway !!!! ridiculous price- i pay under £1 a match to watch every Swedish elite league match.

Actually far from me to defend Starmans posts, but the replies are basically mob bullying of the guy.

The plaudits of the previous posters say it all. Not many riders go through a whole career with barely a bad word said about them but everyone liked AJ. AJ - A massive talent, and thoroughly nice bloke. Leigh Lanham said his favourite times in the sport were riding No 2 at Lakeside with AJ at No1. Fantastic team rider . It was always amusing to see AJ coming off bend 2 and pointing to where he wanted Leigh to go, left or right, Leigh would go there and AJ would bring him home. One thing many people didn’t see was that he was meticulously organised and always treated his mechanics extremely well. All good things come to an end. Sorry to see AJ go but as has been said, he has taken a lot of knocks and I am glad to see him leave in one piece, and while he is still relatively near the top. He still rides at No1 in my dream team though.