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A thoughtful parent who has createdfurther opportunities for his child which will been entitled to dual nationality/freedom of movement between AUS & the UK yeah those true colours are disgusting.......sometimes there is a whole lot more to life than speedway.

Heard he has a polish team lined up which means he will have , Poland , Denmark , Sweden and most likely back at Swindon 2nd tier in GB was never going to be an option. It makes a pleasant change for someone like Rasser wanting to progress to the next level and good luck to him.

Why? Brilliant sensible move in the circumstances. Bring it on.

Why? Surely Poole running is the most important thing? I wish people would give it a chance first before trying to run it into the ground

You couldn’t run a bath so stop talking out of your arse.

Fair play to them for making all that money from collecting stamps!

Laguta?

Gin. The emperor’s new clothes of marketing. Whether you infuse it with rhubarb, raspberry or botanicals, it still tastes of ..... wait for it ...... tonic water! And then some insist on Fever Tree rather than Schweppes!!! Why? Is it more tonicky? What a load of cobblers.

There is no "debate", there is yet another public showing of you acting like a bell end.

For me R.Lambert is a must.

Well it's certainly not the way I run my business !! Have you ever had a business ?

Compulsory purchase considered - https://www.oxfordmail.co.uk/news/18009786.oxford-stadium-council-may-consider-compulsory-purchase-order/

Actually it did have an impact on the result. Ulrich picked up "dead" arm injury in that collision. Which was how he went from 2nd to 4th on bend 2 lap 4 in heat 13, thus the 1-5 would have been a 2-4. Newcastle would only have been 2 points behind on aggregate going into heat 15. Ulrich would have been in heat 15 had he been fit. I'm not saying Redcar wouldn't still have won but it would have been a lot closer.

will be in 2 weeks and first signings announced

This is great. Someone has lost a thread and someone lost the plot

A quick look at the doubling up riders at the end of the season shows that the average conversion factor to convert their PL actual averages to their actual CL averages was 1.253. It varies from 1.93 to convert Wells actual PL average to his actual CL average down to 1.10 to do the same calculation for Jorgensen. As we know the conversion factor used was 1.5, which will increase to 1.6 next season. The evidence shows that 1.5 was too high. However, it was a deliberate BSPA policy to reduce the opportunities for doubling down for riders who didn't start the season in the CL. Bewley fell foul of this during the season when he wanted to get a CL place before he was given rides in Poland and Sweden. Using the 1.5 conversion he was saddled withsomething like a 10.5 CL average. The intention to increase the conversion factor by 0.1 every season, until it reaches 2.0, will make it more and more difficult for riders like Bewley to double down but more and more attractive for riders in the CL, who don't have a PL average, to double up. By way of example, next year Josh Pickering, who has a CL average of 6.93, would have a PL average of 4.33 and in 5 years time, 3.46.

the reason why i cant run a bath is because i have a shower . then again , you will know all about showers wont you . you being one ...... look buddy i have no gripes with you . so please stop insulting me . please ...

Dead right! If you want your speedway to continue at your local track, year on year, set the limit lower, keep the promotion's losses down and let the sport be there for you and your friends.

Down down

Absolutely Lambert. No brainer. Riss, MPT and Cook would be preferable to stay but not essential if better options were found. Jorgensen, Kerr, Andersen, Porsing and S Lambert to be moved on for me unfortunately, we need fresh blood and better options for away matches. Can’t decide on Proctor having thought about it, his average is extremely attractive even though he is a shadow of the rider he once was.

A Saturday night down the M2 to Kent was always a lovely end to the week. Yes, Wally Mawdsley did run it for a while towards the end before selling out to Chris Galvin, but its first promoter through the sixties and seventies was the one and only Johnnie Hoskins. It was narrow but racing was possible. I miss so many tracks that we've lost but Kingsmead is one of the greater regrets outside the loss of the London tracks, Coventry, Cradley and of course the original Belle Vue. The second division was my league though and I so miss being able to head to that fine city for a good night's speedway with a great atmosphere and fans.

Well one bonus of the thread going missing was the post that appeared I was talking to myself about something that hadn't been talked about has gone along with it..…

Whatever you want

I declined them both, much easier for me, and my other members. Thanks anyway.

Remember at some stage Brough Park and its associated area will be developed.

You used to run groups like that until they got even less posts and probably died a slow death. Seem to remember you had another name and posted to make it look like there were more contributors. Then you got rumbled

My first live meeting was at imbled Stadium on Thursday 17 March 1976 when the Dons lost at home against Reading in a challenge match 32-46. but I did watch speedway on Tv prior to this match dating back to the late 1960s. The first race result was Dave Jessup, Barry Crowson, Bernie Leigh, Edgar Stangeland 65.1 secs. Strange but True Roger Johns was the first Wimbledon rider to win a race home and away in 1976 as he won heta 2 of this match and the following week at White City's opening meeting on 24 March a challenge match against Wimbledon he won 2 again.

Good job it wasn't Rob Grant snr''s leg, doubt even the Titanic would have gettin past that

Report on Sportowefakty this week indicated that there are plenty of Nice Polska teams interested in signing Lambert- however his signing on fee demands of around £40000 will have to be lowered !

See, you are interpreting things to suit yourself! I deliberately worded it as to be ambiguous... Trust me, I am not the *rsehole you are convinced I am. I am an amateur speedway historian who provides valuable input not only on the BSF, but to the sport as a whole. I am an experienced and successful (and respected) professional sports figure. I have a wonderful (albeit somewhat warped, at times) sense of humour. I am just intolerant of bigotry, hatred, negativity, and general stupidity. When I provide input in reference to you comments or questions, you ignore them. When I ask you simple questions that require a simple answer, you refuse to answer. Despite what you may think, my sole purpose in life is not to mock you or argue with you. Having said that, many of your posts do seem to encourage people (not just me) to react in those ways. Life is too short to be a miserable git; I know, I used to be one! As I get older, I can't understand why so many people take everything - particularly themselves - too seriously. You really are one of those people. I honestly am not trying to entice you in to saying something for which I can belittle you. I am trying to get you to understand that just because YOU may find something offensive, it doesn't mean it is. One of the things I have learned about being in the US is that I am surrounded by snowflakes and the perpetually offended. Again, life is too short to find everything offensive. Are you American???

Thats, what your proposin.

I was a member of that group but now it seems I am no longer??? Don t recall leaving it? Maybe having some Aussie riders as mates ruled me out But not Holder he called me a c*** once!

A severely flawed plan IMO - doesnt solve the doubling up problem and just makes manipulation by top flight clubs making changes more of a possibility

That' is TOTALLY not true either but we wont open that running sore as it has been well and truly done to death on here in the past ... and isn't honest or helpful really as there are still a great many people hurting from the loss of their club... But when you are arguing with an idiot I suppose posting an idiotic response is the go to reaction to try and put over your cause or case however misguided it may be; especially for the good folk on here who may not be fully aware of the truth... Some may even believe you but two wrongs don't make a right... Don't' rise to the bait as all he is doing is "choking the chicken" at the though he is "boiling your pish"... On a genuine point with regard to your last question; the way things collapsed at the start of the season I don't think anyone got anything back (or look likely to if I am totally honest) although there was a promise from the promotion that once the financial mess was sorted there would be a concerted effort to get the fans sorted out too... again all I would say on that is don't hold your breath... Regards THJ

You could be on to something. Look how glamorous Formula One is perceived to be by the nouveau riche. What a crap sport that is. Plusnet has made a brand of being down to earth Yorkshire and value for money. Maybe that’s what speedway needs. It’s certainly a family sport, a place where kids can run around rather than have to sit in seats in a stand and where they can get up close to the riders and get autographs.

What's wrong with that? He obviously wants his child to have dual nationality. So what?

Mr Phillips

I am amazed it took so long for you to start talking about yourself .

Got his name wrong, but despite that in my time of going he never rode for England. Think Steve is talking about the England teams of the 70s most probably. And who of that generation can argue that those teams were great ?

What Berwick need is a form of the squad system where Gappmaier rides home meetings only and a similar average more versatile rider takes the away meetings, job done.

I've said to a few people the decisions (as much as I disagree with both of them) made the meeting much more interesting but only cause the correct team won in the end. If Newcastle had become winners from those then it would have ruined it IMO.

if it was/is 41 why would you reduce for extra teams. All that does is make second strings redundant and forces too many 2 pointers in to reserve. Best to increase limit to 44 or 45 allows all the available heat leaders and second strings to be included and add a rule each side has to run a 2 point reserve at 7. That's fairer.

Speedway could learn from chocolate, tasted for the first time how many go back for more chocolate,, chocolate has also moved with the times to keep relavent. Cider did the same, now gin is doing it, it's giving the customer what it wants, by investing in itself and moving on. Speedway needs to be more like chocolate and gin.

Palm oil or not Cadbury’s still is and always has been, in all of its guises, 45% sugar.

He’s 25 and a perfectly decent rider. Why would we not be happy to have him when we have Klindt, Busk Jacobsen, Bellego, Pieszczek, Bjerre, Covatti and Jorgensen.

I blame Poole and Ford, its all their fault And I blame Adidas for bringing back all the old school classics

To be honest, if he was to come back I would expect it to be for track time and an opportunity to rebuild confidence rather than purely money. That seems a bit harsh. He's far from his best of a few years ago but he's still better than a lot of what raced in the league here this year...and he doesn't just do it all from the gate!

Max Dilger

I had a horrible feeling somebody would say that.

It's subscription only - announcement here: http://retro-speedway.com/news.php?extend.93 Sadly, the current state of British Speedway and catastrophic closure of tracks such as Coventry has even had an affect on the retro magazines. I always read Backtrack cover-to-cover (well, apart from the pieces I've contributed - no need to read those!), and I would suggest the £25 subscription price is well worth it. In particular, you don't want to miss the Guglielmi interview, which is candid, revealing and very sad in places.