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A thoughtful parent who has createdfurther opportunities for his child which will been entitled to dual nationality/freedom of movement between AUS & the UK yeah those true colours are disgusting.......sometimes there is a whole lot more to life than speedway.

Heard he has a polish team lined up which means he will have , Poland , Denmark , Sweden and most likely back at Swindon 2nd tier in GB was never going to be an option. It makes a pleasant change for someone like Rasser wanting to progress to the next level and good luck to him.

Why? Brilliant sensible move in the circumstances. Bring it on.

Why? Surely Poole running is the most important thing? I wish people would give it a chance first before trying to run it into the ground

You couldn’t run a bath so stop talking out of your arse.

Fair play to them for making all that money from collecting stamps!

Laguta?

Gin. The emperor’s new clothes of marketing. Whether you infuse it with rhubarb, raspberry or botanicals, it still tastes of ..... wait for it ...... tonic water! And then some insist on Fever Tree rather than Schweppes!!! Why? Is it more tonicky? What a load of cobblers.

There is no "debate", there is yet another public showing of you acting like a bell end.

For me R.Lambert is a must.

Well it's certainly not the way I run my business !! Have you ever had a business ?

Compulsory purchase considered - https://www.oxfordmail.co.uk/news/18009786.oxford-stadium-council-may-consider-compulsory-purchase-order/

Actually it did have an impact on the result. Ulrich picked up "dead" arm injury in that collision. Which was how he went from 2nd to 4th on bend 2 lap 4 in heat 13, thus the 1-5 would have been a 2-4. Newcastle would only have been 2 points behind on aggregate going into heat 15. Ulrich would have been in heat 15 had he been fit. I'm not saying Redcar wouldn't still have won but it would have been a lot closer.

will be in 2 weeks and first signings announced

This is great. Someone has lost a thread and someone lost the plot

A quick look at the doubling up riders at the end of the season shows that the average conversion factor to convert their PL actual averages to their actual CL averages was 1.253. It varies from 1.93 to convert Wells actual PL average to his actual CL average down to 1.10 to do the same calculation for Jorgensen. As we know the conversion factor used was 1.5, which will increase to 1.6 next season. The evidence shows that 1.5 was too high. However, it was a deliberate BSPA policy to reduce the opportunities for doubling down for riders who didn't start the season in the CL. Bewley fell foul of this during the season when he wanted to get a CL place before he was given rides in Poland and Sweden. Using the 1.5 conversion he was saddled withsomething like a 10.5 CL average. The intention to increase the conversion factor by 0.1 every season, until it reaches 2.0, will make it more and more difficult for riders like Bewley to double down but more and more attractive for riders in the CL, who don't have a PL average, to double up. By way of example, next year Josh Pickering, who has a CL average of 6.93, would have a PL average of 4.33 and in 5 years time, 3.46.

the reason why i cant run a bath is because i have a shower . then again , you will know all about showers wont you . you being one ...... look buddy i have no gripes with you . so please stop insulting me . please ...

Dead right! If you want your speedway to continue at your local track, year on year, set the limit lower, keep the promotion's losses down and let the sport be there for you and your friends.

Down down

Absolutely Lambert. No brainer. Riss, MPT and Cook would be preferable to stay but not essential if better options were found. Jorgensen, Kerr, Andersen, Porsing and S Lambert to be moved on for me unfortunately, we need fresh blood and better options for away matches. Can’t decide on Proctor having thought about it, his average is extremely attractive even though he is a shadow of the rider he once was.

A Saturday night down the M2 to Kent was always a lovely end to the week. Yes, Wally Mawdsley did run it for a while towards the end before selling out to Chris Galvin, but its first promoter through the sixties and seventies was the one and only Johnnie Hoskins. It was narrow but racing was possible. I miss so many tracks that we've lost but Kingsmead is one of the greater regrets outside the loss of the London tracks, Coventry, Cradley and of course the original Belle Vue. The second division was my league though and I so miss being able to head to that fine city for a good night's speedway with a great atmosphere and fans.

Well one bonus of the thread going missing was the post that appeared I was talking to myself about something that hadn't been talked about has gone along with it..…

Whatever you want

I declined them both, much easier for me, and my other members. Thanks anyway.

Wouldn't be for me. I don't think it would make for a competitive league. And we can't afford another team to drop out. 7 is the minimum. Look at the Panthers in 2019.Reported crap crowds, fans not happy, and Buster said they/he lost money. If it was a free for all, i'm not sure they would be the only dejected team in 2020 if that happened. I don't have the answer tbh but I don't think no limit is it.

Steve Pugh

Not necessarily forgotten. As with much of the internet, things remain online for a long, long, time. Hence by simply googling "Gustix Proboards Forum Admin" I was able to hop in just a few clicks to find all kinds of weird and wonderful old discussions. I loved that thread with the complaint of being "hacked by four people" and then 8 (or 9) "bogus members" with "names like other members" joining in 24 hours and crashing a proboards forum with "images designed to make the forum look stupid".... ...If you read on, It turned out the Administrator had been paying for additional storage space, but then stopped paying. When he was downgraded to a free plan with less storage space, the images already posted by his own members were already over the free quota, and he just had to delete content to free up space again. Sadly no infiltration from the dark web after all!

Wrights decision is shown as XD, whereas Barkers is shown as XO, (SGB WEBSITE),,, hope this helps clear things up.

I haven't really thought about it as deep as that, nor am I going to, I just think you are a t it.

It will be, sad days for the Pirates.

He was on it previously,, and I've learnt my lesson.

Also the referees scoresheet shows the reason for the exclusion as XO i.e. disqualified for a reason other than dangerous or foul riding. If he had been disqualified for bringing Ulrich down it would be shown as XD, as was Barker's disqualification shown on the refs sheet. (Not that I 'm saying that decision was correct). Being the guilty (in the refs view) of causing another rider to fall is always shown as XD. I rest my case.

Damn, you are like Columbo.Caught me red handed guvna. I deleted my own thread to start another one up about it going bye byes. Gotta get out the bed early to beat you.

What was it, & did you rip your customers off to pay your debts ?

That’s irrelevant and entirely a result of team selections through the season. All teams started out with a limit of 38 and after the first matches the combined average was a bit lower than 42 (due to some races finishing with two riders). Subjective team changes were then made during the season due to loss of form and injuries, generally with lower averaged replacements coming in, so the combined average went another bit lower than 42. And so we ended up with 41.3. That will happen practically every season but it doesn’t change the facts that 42 is the objective limit and an above figure can bring in more higher averaged riders (from the PL or abroad) and a below figure can move higher averaged riders around, exclude some of them and reduce costs.

Really ? I not sure anyone on the forum has Ever notice that .. No wonder they call you uncle albert .

The total of all 11 current BCL teams is 453.38 which is an average of 41.30 which should be 2020s team points limit irrespective of who the 2020 league will comprise.

Yep. Jensen is dropping championship from his calendar next year. So you want him back you will have to move up

Remember Sue - it's fine to talk to yourself. It's just when you start arguing that the tranquiliser rifles come out ;-)

Old News

and the season before ......

I suspect - as has been alluded to above - that Baldyman is referring to the thread about his Facebook group which you started. The thread which you were posting on quite vigorously right up to last night. The thread which you hid this morning. If you can't remember doing any of the following I'd suggest you ask your family to get you tested for Alzheimers.

Do the Bates still own Leicester? If they do didn't they sack Bjerre when he was at Sheffield? So I doubt they'd have him back. Running out of clubs he seemingly hasn't upset is baby Bjerre.

George Michael was always losing his chocolate bars, often very careless with his Wispa.

Omg I gotta get some wispa gold on the way home from work. They sound the dogs dangleys

Seen it mentioned that it's £50k per Premiership club per season.

I followed Cov for 50 odd years I haven't been to a meeting since just hoping I get to go back to Brandon before I pop my clogs

It's a brilliant interview, one of the best I've read in Backtrack. It certainly gives things a lot more perspective and allows Gary to tell his side of the story. I always thought he was a little bit of a hot head, and his riding was 'forceful' to say the least, but the interview is very thoughtful and reflective. I don't think that there's any doubt that he was held as a bit of a scapegoat for the drug problems of the era as he wasn't as 'box office' as the Americans or Michael Lee.

Several reasons why teams request to drop.. With financial being the obvious one. With the underlying reasons of there being absolutely no kudos by winning any Speedway title nor any attainment levels to aspire too from the lowest league to the top.. No disrespect but a Grand Final in Speedway (UK), is akin to two bald men fighting over a comb.. Therefore what difference does it make to the clubs what league they race in? Hardly anyone cares who wins. There is almost zero National coverage.. And there is no financial reward worth speaking of, in fact, as we see, successful clubs can actually lose money and go bust by winning!! Therefore you might as well decide amongst yourselves where you want to compete, and at the end of the day you can watch pretty much the same set of riders anyway so no loss there.. As you say, it sends out all the wrong messages, but that's where the sport is in the UK, and I suppose the overall thoughts are better to have clubs still in existence than not.. An ever decreasing circle though isn't it?

In my experience TV matches are rarely entertaining unless you’re own team is involved.