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A thoughtful parent who has createdfurther opportunities for his child which will been entitled to dual nationality/freedom of movement between AUS & the UK yeah those true colours are disgusting.......sometimes there is a whole lot more to life than speedway.

Heard he has a polish team lined up which means he will have , Poland , Denmark , Sweden and most likely back at Swindon 2nd tier in GB was never going to be an option. It makes a pleasant change for someone like Rasser wanting to progress to the next level and good luck to him.

Why? Brilliant sensible move in the circumstances. Bring it on.

Why? Surely Poole running is the most important thing? I wish people would give it a chance first before trying to run it into the ground

You couldn’t run a bath so stop talking out of your arse.

Fair play to them for making all that money from collecting stamps!

Laguta?

Gin. The emperor’s new clothes of marketing. Whether you infuse it with rhubarb, raspberry or botanicals, it still tastes of ..... wait for it ...... tonic water! And then some insist on Fever Tree rather than Schweppes!!! Why? Is it more tonicky? What a load of cobblers.

There is no "debate", there is yet another public showing of you acting like a bell end.

For me R.Lambert is a must.

Well it's certainly not the way I run my business !! Have you ever had a business ?

Compulsory purchase considered - https://www.oxfordmail.co.uk/news/18009786.oxford-stadium-council-may-consider-compulsory-purchase-order/

Actually it did have an impact on the result. Ulrich picked up "dead" arm injury in that collision. Which was how he went from 2nd to 4th on bend 2 lap 4 in heat 13, thus the 1-5 would have been a 2-4. Newcastle would only have been 2 points behind on aggregate going into heat 15. Ulrich would have been in heat 15 had he been fit. I'm not saying Redcar wouldn't still have won but it would have been a lot closer.

will be in 2 weeks and first signings announced

This is great. Someone has lost a thread and someone lost the plot

A quick look at the doubling up riders at the end of the season shows that the average conversion factor to convert their PL actual averages to their actual CL averages was 1.253. It varies from 1.93 to convert Wells actual PL average to his actual CL average down to 1.10 to do the same calculation for Jorgensen. As we know the conversion factor used was 1.5, which will increase to 1.6 next season. The evidence shows that 1.5 was too high. However, it was a deliberate BSPA policy to reduce the opportunities for doubling down for riders who didn't start the season in the CL. Bewley fell foul of this during the season when he wanted to get a CL place before he was given rides in Poland and Sweden. Using the 1.5 conversion he was saddled withsomething like a 10.5 CL average. The intention to increase the conversion factor by 0.1 every season, until it reaches 2.0, will make it more and more difficult for riders like Bewley to double down but more and more attractive for riders in the CL, who don't have a PL average, to double up. By way of example, next year Josh Pickering, who has a CL average of 6.93, would have a PL average of 4.33 and in 5 years time, 3.46.

the reason why i cant run a bath is because i have a shower . then again , you will know all about showers wont you . you being one ...... look buddy i have no gripes with you . so please stop insulting me . please ...

Dead right! If you want your speedway to continue at your local track, year on year, set the limit lower, keep the promotion's losses down and let the sport be there for you and your friends.

Down down

Absolutely Lambert. No brainer. Riss, MPT and Cook would be preferable to stay but not essential if better options were found. Jorgensen, Kerr, Andersen, Porsing and S Lambert to be moved on for me unfortunately, we need fresh blood and better options for away matches. Can’t decide on Proctor having thought about it, his average is extremely attractive even though he is a shadow of the rider he once was.

A Saturday night down the M2 to Kent was always a lovely end to the week. Yes, Wally Mawdsley did run it for a while towards the end before selling out to Chris Galvin, but its first promoter through the sixties and seventies was the one and only Johnnie Hoskins. It was narrow but racing was possible. I miss so many tracks that we've lost but Kingsmead is one of the greater regrets outside the loss of the London tracks, Coventry, Cradley and of course the original Belle Vue. The second division was my league though and I so miss being able to head to that fine city for a good night's speedway with a great atmosphere and fans.

Well one bonus of the thread going missing was the post that appeared I was talking to myself about something that hadn't been talked about has gone along with it..…

Whatever you want

I declined them both, much easier for me, and my other members. Thanks anyway.

Steve Pugh

Remember at some stage Brough Park and its associated area will be developed.

You used to run groups like that until they got even less posts and probably died a slow death. Seem to remember you had another name and posted to make it look like there were more contributors. Then you got rumbled

If it was viable would like to Tigers move up to PL next season.

My first live meeting was at imbled Stadium on Thursday 17 March 1976 when the Dons lost at home against Reading in a challenge match 32-46. but I did watch speedway on Tv prior to this match dating back to the late 1960s. The first race result was Dave Jessup, Barry Crowson, Bernie Leigh, Edgar Stangeland 65.1 secs. Strange but True Roger Johns was the first Wimbledon rider to win a race home and away in 1976 as he won heta 2 of this match and the following week at White City's opening meeting on 24 March a challenge match against Wimbledon he won 2 again.

Good job it wasn't Rob Grant snr''s leg, doubt even the Titanic would have gettin past that

Thats, what your proposin.

That' is TOTALLY not true either but we wont open that running sore as it has been well and truly done to death on here in the past ... and isn't honest or helpful really as there are still a great many people hurting from the loss of their club... But when you are arguing with an idiot I suppose posting an idiotic response is the go to reaction to try and put over your cause or case however misguided it may be; especially for the good folk on here who may not be fully aware of the truth... Some may even believe you but two wrongs don't make a right... Don't' rise to the bait as all he is doing is "choking the chicken" at the though he is "boiling your pish"... On a genuine point with regard to your last question; the way things collapsed at the start of the season I don't think anyone got anything back (or look likely to if I am totally honest) although there was a promise from the promotion that once the financial mess was sorted there would be a concerted effort to get the fans sorted out too... again all I would say on that is don't hold your breath... Regards THJ

You could be on to something. Look how glamorous Formula One is perceived to be by the nouveau riche. What a crap sport that is. Plusnet has made a brand of being down to earth Yorkshire and value for money. Maybe that’s what speedway needs. It’s certainly a family sport, a place where kids can run around rather than have to sit in seats in a stand and where they can get up close to the riders and get autographs.

Of course it's cobblers, but that's marketing in a nutshell. Doesn't make it wrong though.

What you will note is, although those things have regained popularity, it isn't branded or marketed in the same way as when it was popular previously. Gin has regained popularity by targeting young drinkers, selling itself as a premium drink and coupled with exotic mixers. This is the problem with speedway. The world has moved on but the sport hasn't. Promoters idea of marketing hasn't changed since the 70s and still involves going into schools and down the local village fete. The other problem speedway faces is that is it a premium price for a spit and sawdust product. That is a hard sell in anyone's book. I think too many promoters are sitting around thinking "speedway will be next" - however, they've been doing that for the last twenty years.

For me a wonder if Lambert has now done his time at Lynn Don’t get me wrong Robert is a great talent. However, With all his other commitments would the PL be, shall we say not high on his list of priorities. Unless the circuit at Saddlebow is likely to change then Buster might as well fill up with a team of gaters, for example such as Klint. The track as it stands does the likes of Lambert no favours.

I remember mine as clear as day. 1975. Exeter v Reading. Bank Holiday Monday. Scorching hot day, travelled to Exeter by bus from the village I lived in with other kids from the village. I was 9 and all the kids used to go to this "speedway" so I asked Mum if I could go. What I saw had me hooked for life. Noise, colour, smell, dirt, speed. I'll never forget that day as long as I live. It was a BL match & respective number ones Ivan Mauger & Anders Michanek were absent, as they had raced in the World Championship European Final in Bydgoszcz the day before, Mauger won I think with 14 points, I am sure someone will confirm. Anyway, Doug Wyer guested for Exeter, Dave Jessup for Reading. Heat 1 was Humphreys, Jessup, Farrell, Wyer in 71.8 seconds. Jessup won his 4 remaining races - one as a TS - to complete a 5 ride paid max, Wyer went to score 8 & Exeter won 43-35. The return was at Reading in the evening.

That’s irrelevant and entirely a result of team selections through the season. All teams started out with a limit of 38 and after the first matches the combined average was a bit lower than 42 (due to some races finishing with two riders). Subjective team changes were then made during the season due to loss of form and injuries, generally with lower averaged replacements coming in, so the combined average went another bit lower than 42. And so we ended up with 41.3. That will happen practically every season but it doesn’t change the facts that 42 is the objective limit and an above figure can bring in more higher averaged riders (from the PL or abroad) and a below figure can move higher averaged riders around, exclude some of them and reduce costs.

Should be called England. No Welsh, Scottish or Northern Irish riders ride in the squad and haven’t for as long as I can remember. im Welsh but still can’t see why they keep the TEAM GB tag.

I write an honest piece and get the usual rubbish from you. You illustrate my point about some of the people who I encountered in the sport who made me wish I hadn't bothered. I hope I didn't meet you. I obviously can'tr tell since you spread your poison from the cowardly defence of a false name. You disgust me. In a way this incident sums up my experience of the sport. You do something honestly and with the right intentions to help people understand what went on and you get reptiles like you crawling out from under your stone. I talk about the sport and mention my own experiences. Somehow that's a crime in your eyes. Perhaps it's because you've done f all for the sport except sneer at those who have at least tried. But then anonymity is so convenient eh, especially for cowards like you. It's clear that anything I post is going to get crass responses from you like this so it's best if I don't bother. I met plenty of egomaniacs in the sport, especially in announcing and writing. I assure you I'm not one of them Perhaps you should try taking them on? I gave a damn. More fool me, eh? I'll let you get back to your poison pen letters, oh superior one..... Anyway, for those people who are interested in the sport rather than hurting others I hope my original post helped them understand what went on at Wimbledon. Sadly orion puts his need to be unpleasant to others above that. Perhaps my posting went over his shabby little head? Anyway, apologies for making a posting. I must remember that I have to ask permission from an idiot in Wiltshire first. Speedway, a great sport, ruined by people who don't give a damn about others.

I am amazed it took so long for you to start talking about yourself .

I think it was about Grecian 2000!

if it was/is 41 why would you reduce for extra teams. All that does is make second strings redundant and forces too many 2 pointers in to reserve. Best to increase limit to 44 or 45 allows all the available heat leaders and second strings to be included and add a rule each side has to run a 2 point reserve at 7. That's fairer.

Palm oil or not Cadbury’s still is and always has been, in all of its guises, 45% sugar.

So you know what dangleys taste like?---Hmmm

I blame Poole and Ford, its all their fault And I blame Adidas for bringing back all the old school classics

Not a case of relegation being the aim. Survival is the aim. Just happens to be that relegation is the way to survive.

What do want the final to be ? you want Swindon to make it close ? Maybe Man city in the fa cup final should beat Watford by less goals . brain dead post .

It's subscription only - announcement here: http://retro-speedway.com/news.php?extend.93 Sadly, the current state of British Speedway and catastrophic closure of tracks such as Coventry has even had an affect on the retro magazines. I always read Backtrack cover-to-cover (well, apart from the pieces I've contributed - no need to read those!), and I would suggest the £25 subscription price is well worth it. In particular, you don't want to miss the Guglielmi interview, which is candid, revealing and very sad in places.

Plainly obvious it’s a backside injury (he just can’t be arsed)