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  1. Excellent response from Ben to the 'statement' in SS... Ben Duffill 37 m · Via the Speedway Star, a ‘spokesman’ for SCB has issued a response to my query as to why the recent Redcar V Birmingham KO Cup match was different to the Redcar V Glasgow (01.06.17) and Coventry V Rye House (11.09.15) matches. Both of those matches were abandoned and declared before heat 10, whereas the KO Cup match was not. I have asked several times via email, why those matches were declared, contrary to the SCB’s own rule book (SCB reg 011.1.23). I was NOT given a reason - I was told that a meeting can only be declared before heat 10 if the result is already ‘mathematically certain’, with no other explanation. I wouldn’t usually take to social media to do this, but feel I have no other option as I didn’t get the decency of a reply to my question by email - instead I had to read it in the Speedway Star this morning. Reading the ‘spokesman’s’ response, he states that the 2 matches I have used as an example, were ‘beyond doubt mathematically’! It’s written for us all to read, but is completely untrue. If you see the photos attached to this post, you will see that NEITHER of those results were mathematically beyond doubt. The opposition could have won by heat 15 in both examples (if they are using heat 10 for that analysis, then the KO Cup match result was beyond doubt too). In fact, the score difference was exactly the same (8 points) at the time of the abandonment in the Redcar V Glasgow match in 2017. Both matches were abandoned after Heat 9 - other than the fact that one was a KO Cup match, there is no difference whatsoever. The rule book does not state that a KO Cup match is treated differently to a league match either! (see attached reg 011.1.23). In this article, the SCB also state that the KO Cup match at Birmingham was not abandoned due to the condition of the track - the fact that the match was delayed for over an hour due to the remedial track work means that it WAS directly responsible. The match would never have reached curfew otherwise - the SCB have not acknowledged this in their statement. It’s a shame this explanation wasn’t given to me personally by our governing body when I requested it, but then again, it’s a very weak and untrue explanation. The evidence is attached for all to see. These decisions ARE inconsistent, and our treatment in this situation is disrespectful and unfair. Precedents were set I’m afraid and this explanation is not fooling me, or Redcar Speedway - we deserve better.
    6 points
  2. Really sorry to see that Rob has decided to quit at Kent. As somebody who remembers him fondly as a kid at Arena where he gave his all in every race, it was amazing to then see him years later return to the sport at Central Park well past his 40th birthday and perform as if he was twenty years younger. On track he was always worth watching, and off it, I believe he gave a lot to the team. It was a shame that he suddenly lost his Championship place pre-season, but I did wonder how he could possibly make it worthwhile to continue just in the National League, given the crazy situation with the fixtures this year. Having ridden in the Royal's opener on May 31st, his next home meeting was not until the end of July. He was not due to get any regular track action until September. That might be okay for a junior managing a few rides elsewhere, but at 50, with two or three good quality bikes to maintain? Good luck Rob in the future, and thanks for the enjoyment you gave us on two wheels - 24 years apart!
    5 points
  3. This from Redcar Promoter ( soon to stand down) regarding how the Birmingham cup match appeal has been handled. Via the Speedway Star, a ‘spokesman’ for SCB has issued a response to my query as to why the recent Redcar V Birmingham KO Cup match was different to the Redcar V Glasgow (01.06.17) and Coventry V Rye House (11.09.15) matches. Both of those matches were abandoned and declared before heat 10, whereas the KO Cup match was not. I have asked several times via email, why those matches were declared, contrary to the SCB’s own rule book (SCB reg 011.1.23). I was NOT given a reason - I was told that a meeting can only be declared before heat 10 if the result is already ‘mathematically certain’, with no other explanation. I wouldn’t usually take to social media to do this, but feel I have no other option as I didn’t get the decency of a reply to my question by email - instead I had to read it in the Speedway Star this morning. Reading the ‘spokesman’s’ response, he states that the 2 matches I have used as an example, were ‘beyond doubt mathematically’! It’s written for us all to read, but is completely untrue. If you see the photos attached to this post, you will see that NEITHER of those results were mathematically beyond doubt. The opposition could have won by heat 15 in both examples (if they are using heat 10 for that analysis, then the KO Cup match result was beyond doubt too). In fact, the score difference was exactly the same (8 points) at the time of the abandonment in the Redcar V Glasgow match in 2017. Both matches were abandoned after Heat 9 - other than the fact that one was a KO Cup match, there is no difference whatsoever. The rule book does not state that a KO Cup match is treated differently to a league match either! (see attached reg 011.1.23). In this article, the SCB also state that the KO Cup match at Birmingham was not abandoned due to the condition of the track - the fact that the match was delayed for over an hour due to the remedial track work means that it WAS directly responsible. The match would never have reached curfew otherwise - the SCB have not acknowledged this in their statement. It’s a shame this explanation wasn’t given to me personally by our governing body when I requested it, but then again, it’s a very weak and untrue explanation. The evidence is attached for all to see. These decisions ARE inconsistent, and our treatment in this situation is disrespectful and unfair. Precedents were set I’m afraid and this explanation is not fooling me, or Redcar Speedway - we deserve better.
    5 points
  4. Just read the SCS newsletter PDF and just wanted to congratulate them on a superb update. They deserve to be successful.
    5 points
  5. Welcome to the Quiz Of The Week Put the following words into a well known phrase or saying.. 'Couldn't a brewery up piss in a organise".. First prize is two 2021 season tickets to a track from the following list.. Somerset, Swindon, Coventry, Rye House, Lakeside, Workington and Buxton..
    4 points
  6. Being the glitter on top of a pile of turd is hardly a great claim......
    3 points
  7. Until a representative of Redcar get on the management team , that is not going to happen. The SCB ‘ representative ‘ who originally declared the 2017 Redcar v Glasgow match had to be rerun, then announced 3 days later that the match was awarded to Glasgow ( in the press , not to Redcar ) later admitted in person that he was “ told to make that decision by a senior member of the BSPA “ . Money talks, top table influence has gone on for years. The SCB include the current chairman of the BSP L on the board, how is that an independent body ??? Totally understand Duffill’s frustration , the same as his predecessor, little Redcar not on the top table, no cash to wave around.
    3 points
  8. given that everyone's losing money every fixture, would've thought one fewer wd save them money!
    3 points
  9. The SCB are merely puppets to the mafia bosses of the BSP L.
    3 points
  10. I watched the GP qualifier live stream from Glasgow last week what a great meeting and very easy to sign up and watch. I'll definitely be watching this Friday and hoping for a good meeting and an Eagles win. I prefer going to meetings but Glasgow is a 7 hour drive for me so to watch the live stream is a no brainer and the price is OK as well.
    3 points
  11. Interesting to read Len Silver's comments in the Speedway Star today. In particular the comments that the drop in points limits impacts the likes of Oxford and Bradford returning. The league should be about helping new or returning venues develop as well as developing riders.
    3 points
  12. He certainly changed the game in heat 2,,,,,he doubled the stars score
    2 points
  13. Twice on the GB website Plymouth have put a race on..what I don’t get is are they trying to promote good racing because I have yet to see one single pass or something to get excited about..is it about the sizeable crowd or the non entertaining races.
    2 points
  14. Bjarne has been an absolute legend this season, both Bjarne and his mechanic are both very approachable and happy to chat,the Plymouth fans have took to Bjarne and we are really privileged to see him every week, should be good to see crumpy when he's fit but not for a while yet.
    2 points
  15. The 8-day rule doesn’t apply to guesting for the Home No 1 (the same guest could be used every meeting), nor to an NDL rider. 012.4.2 Guest Rider (G) Replaces an absent regular team member subject to the following: - a) if the absent rider, with an established MA, is in the top 1-5 of the team, then the missing rider’s MA will be enhanced by +5% at a home meeting to determine the allowance for the guest rider. b) a rider may ride as a guest (in an official meeting) at a track only onceinan8day period(withinthatleague)unlessheisreplacing the home teams #1 or is an NDL rider guesting for the home team c) the guest must be in a current team declaration and have an MA that is the same or lower than that of the absent rider. If a rider has an established MA in both Premiership and Championship leagues the MA for the league for which the rider is guesting, will be used. If the rider does not have an established MA in that particular league then the conversion factor of 1.6 will apply d) the guest assumes the position and MA of the missing rider. A guest rider in a ‘double header’ shall count as one meeting only e) no rider, whose team is in the play offs may appear as a guest in the play offs, in that league.
    2 points
  16. Strange that they should require permission when they can go Grass Tracking etc. without needing permission.
    2 points
  17. Further update regarding Planning http://savecoventryspeedway.com/newsletter
    2 points
  18. Is it the Alex Spooner for Rob Ledwith change that we're waiting for someone to blab? Or is that common knowledge?
    2 points
  19. I disagree, if you're good enough for the Prem, don't need to be in the NL!
    2 points
  20. The rider (in this case Steve Worrall) can be a guest for the home side as many times as he wants. What he can't do is guest for the away side the following week after he's guested for the home side. He can still ride for his club the following week though, as it only counts for guest appearances. Hope that is clear!!
    2 points
  21. …. says…. VIDEO! Great Heat 3 action from Tuesday's Plymouth v Poole Championship KO Cup match; No it’s not heat 3. It’s heat 13 No it’s not great action. It’s follow the leader, it’s from the gate If that’s what “the powers that be” consider great action, no wonder British Speedway is struggling Full marks to Plymouth and others for the presentation - rather better than Eurosport!
    1 point
  22. Debut for Adam Ellis makes this an interesting fixture with plenty of solid backup including of course Theo. WHAT THE FORK MONARCHS: Sam Masters (capt.), Nathan Greaves, Kye Thomson, Josh Pickering, Richie Worrall, Joe Lawlor, William Lawson. ATISS SCORPIONS: Adam Ellis, Simon Lambert (capt.), Tero Aarnio, Theo Pijper, Thomas Jorgensen, Josh MacDonald, Connor Coles (guest) As for all Monarchs and Devils meetings, Live Streaming available, details in EMTV on the Monarchs website.
    1 point
  23. How can you understand bjarnies spanner man the Geordie Dane dickie juul I thought only Glaswegians understood dickie
    1 point
  24. They're trying to perfect blue shale like what they have at scunthorpe
    1 point
  25. Yeah KL should pull out of the league this year before they go financially under due to nobody turning up now.
    1 point
  26. Jake Allen over Kyle Howarth, purely based on the fact Allen is likely to have more rides than Howarth with a potential TS and Heat 15 Cant see Morris repeating his performance from a couple of weeks back plus being a guest its more likely that TS and Heat 15 rides will got to Ipswich's "own" riders Jorgensen should outscore Wright and thats without the potential for being in Heat 15 Nicols scores this year mean on paper he outscores Etheridge
    1 point
  27. Looking forward to seeing Bjarne ride, never seen him in the past.
    1 point
  28. Nobody as said they want to see it close down. It's the council have come up with the figures that's why CVS is in talks with them to allow more fans in.
    1 point
  29. I think Lynn +8 on 365 is a great bet. But who knows?? I'll be there ,.Hope the Stars can nick it
    1 point
  30. That was against us though,it must be harder riding against tougher opposition.
    1 point
  31. Just signed up for Sunday. This will be my first visit under the new Regulations after being double jabbed. Used to always stand and have a bit of crack with Mr and Mrs Tsunami so will just have to see if I’m in shouting distance.
    1 point
  32. So what would have happened if heat 10 was completed?
    1 point
  33. No, the 8-day rule applies to all competitions.
    1 point
  34. Could it be because a KO Cup match is over 2 legs so therefore needs to be raced evenly over both legs?
    1 point
  35. It is not a new rule, not a covid rule but an old rule still used & is evident in my old 2015 Regulations booklet.
    1 point
  36. £25 per point as a no1 in NDL £50-70 per point as a rising star in Premiership That was what I was gauging it on but I did say "maybe".
    1 point
  37. Oh yes.... age is only a number!! But it's getting bigger!!! Yep. From a fading memory, Nel Revlis was in the Sunderland proggy when I was at Sunderland v Bradford in the early seventies. I was spannering for Tony Freegard who was riding for Bradford. Dave Baugh equalled Ivan Mauger's track record in heat one. It was a small track and we had to borrow a front sprocket off Jim Ryman (Boston) who was living in Wolverhampton at the time. I was proud of driving back from Sunderland to Wolves in one go!!! Although years later I heard Matt Wethers mechanic drove St. Austell to Edinburgh in one go which eclipses my effort by far . In later years I drove in the States and did New Mexico to San Bernadino, Ca with fuel stops only to watch Speedway. Happy times . Nowadays it's an achievement to get up the M6 from Wolves to Belle Vue.
    1 point
  38. Can see the tigers loosing thier stripes tonite witches to caste thier spell
    1 point
  39. Yes. Hes in UK now looking for a team
    1 point
  40. Or if you fancy something a bit nicer, Cuckoo Pub in Alwalton which is 2 mins from entrance is a lovely pub. Harvester is decent mind!
    1 point
  41. I assume the German Football team will have to quarantine before and after playing at Wembley.
    1 point
  42. Didn`t seem to stop Steven Goret when he rode at Gustrow on the Saturday having raced at Plymouth on the previous Tuesday.
    1 point
  43. But the big question is would any sane person spend £17.85 to spend an evening with Mr Shovlar, listening to his blinkered and brown nosed opinions of everyone involved in the sport
    1 point
  44. my pictures from the Glasgow Qualifier (practice) 19.06.21 https://www.flickr.com/photos/the_womble/albums/72157719451995677
    1 point
  45. Less than 200 tickets sold for Leicester v Mildenhall. Always a major risk running with a low points limit that people simply won't go to the stand alone NL meetings.
    1 point
  46. From what I've seen this season, Isle of Wight are missing out on a good league campaign. I'm new to the National League, but the three meetings I've season at Berwick have been entertaining. Each team I have seen so far has had a success story (Mason Watson, Greg Blair, George Rothery, the McGurks, Archie Freeman, both Thompsons, Josh Embleton, just a few from the teams I've seen). A lot of the meetings are close and have well matched teams. Berwick are also getting very good crowds watching the National League matches as part of double headers. Could have had themselves eight decent home meetings, plus any more they wanted to put together.
    1 point
  47. That was mr godfreys reaction to workington wanting to ride on friday nights .
    1 point
  48. yes that was by far the best meeting he ever had
    1 point
  49. 2011 Swindon Robins ...were stone bottom. Adams and Rosco had departed, Big Bald Ron was manager, Nicholls at number one, but the loyal fans kept coming back for more. Some embarassing defeats, lost half their home matches. Bloody awful season.
    1 point
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