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I would be worried about the entertainment factor,Monarhs we’re brilliant but let’s face it that was a bore fest.Better things to do with £18 I’m afraid.

Don’t know what gah is worried about he posted panthers wouldn’t be in play offs anyway

I don’t know… but if they are his original thoughts then I’m sorry but that is not good enough for me as a paying fan!

Malcolm's league and cup average on 13th July 1965 was 5.67; his average for the subsequent league and cup matches that season was 8.20. An improvement in form had started in the KO Cup match against Newport on 29th June, prior to which his average was 4.70. From the Newport meeting to the day before the Wimbledon cup match he averaged 7.76. That also included away meetings at Wolverhampton, Newcastle and Sheffield, plus home meetings against Edinburgh, Oxford, Poole and Wimbledon, the latter in the drawn cup tie. A lot of credit was rightly given to Simmons for the terrific team results in the latter half of the season, which led to the achievement of the treble (including the London Cup). However, at the time the introduction of Tony Clarke to the reserve slot in August was also acknowledged as being a contributary factor, with his average in league and cup being 4.35.

As a neutral ( but a season ticket holder too ) it’s a shame to see the Bears having such bad luck. On paper the team looked fantastic but they hadnt really clicked all at once and now injuries are ripping the team apart. Due to having such a good race track ( and benefitting from our hasty decision to part with a great track curator ) with no real home advantage you had a team of ‘ racers ‘ but , as Eastbourne proved, you need to have some gaters as well. Losing Stewart weakened the team ( R/R not really getting the expected points ) but losing two good young prospects at reserve will be almost impossible to cover with a Friday night race night. Not sure on the rules for covering their absence but Blair would be a consideration ( is he a “rising star “ ? ). Thought Serjeant was unlucky on Friday, in point scoring positions in his races just lacked top end speed and I think he’s worth his place as teams are too quick to dump riders and I dont see Redcar being like that . I hope the Bears do pick up and make the play offs. I bought my season ticket based on the quality of the racing at the STMP over the passed few years once Terry the Track was brought in and I haven’t regretted a penny of it. Wish I could say the same about my own team but hopefully things will pick up there too.

What ever happens something must be done just to make KENT a proper team ,We can not continue to turn up with only half a team,,We are not expecting a lot this season just a side that is capable off putting up a fight............

Think the rising star gradings will start to cause discontent soon.Greg Blair might be worth a punt for Redcar!

“I honestly don’t think we were as bad as it looked” What the hell was he watching then as from where I was standing we rode like absolute pish!

Who out there is stronger though? No point dropping a rider if you can't strengthen up!

Says it all when Lawson can win a race beating our No1 and Danny G riding a lawnmower .

Bring back the old Speedway Mail!

Well done to Monarchs outclassed by a side wanting to win.Quote of the night from that clown Barrie.” Most dominant display by an away team he has witnessed,because Berwick are not a bad Team” Really!!!!! As*e licking of the highest order award. PS That won’t be last home defeat this season IMO,but as long as the crowds hold up and they buy plenty of cheap booze we should be OK.

You do realise what that means.......

Not sure what Janowski's problem was after heat 12, and acting like a petulant school child after the final and shunning the celebrations. What with that, and his antics in Heat 15 at Wroclaw the other week he seems to have had a class transplant lately. Has Darcy started managing him? Anyhow, great win from the world's finest. Onwards and upwards.

Just another day at the office.

Make no mistake about it from a Berwick point of view last night was as bad as the score suggests, it was un-professional, and totally un-acceptable for this team to represent the people who turned up last night and turn in a performance like that. Thing is does any of us believe we have a team manager or a promotion who will leave the riders in no doubt that there can be no repeat of that performance in future, now I have been onto our wonderful website but I am guessing it will be usual clap trap about forgetting tonight, turning over a new leaf, moving on etc, there may even be a snide comment about Edinburgh using Drew Kemp as guest as there was on here the other day and again on the parade last night. Face Berwick Edinburgh used the rules to their advantage just as Berwick did with the Garcia/Anderson saga, the original hokey cokey signing, he`s in then he`s out then he`s back in again. Most worrying of all is that most of us saw this coming and I don`t see last night being our last home defeat. I will exempt Leon Flint from criticism as he has carried the team for most of the season, and on last night Danny Gappmaier. Even Aaron Summers, who has has his critics on here which I understand, has the decency to win 50% of our race wins which wasn't difficult as Berwick only had two race winners all night. Take nothing away from Edinburgh, they were excellent, when a good team riding well comes to a poor team riding as Berwick did last night then this is what happens.

Although there was a pool of riders to cover for injuries in 1965 some teams fared better than others with their allocations. Newcastle, for example, received World Finalist Brian Brett to cover for Ivan Mauger and were allowed to keep him even after Ivan returned (half fit) to the team. Oxford's replacements did not adequately cover for Ron How. Newport moved Bob Hughes up from reserve and brought in Ray Harris and then Vic White. Dick had a league average of just over 8 points, whereas Harris and White achieved around 4.5 and 5.5 respectively. I do not believe that Wasps would have finished any higher in the league even with a fit Dick Bradley in the team for the rest of the season. After his injury Newport rode 6 home league matches and won them all. Away meetings at Long Eaton and Cradley Heath were both won anyway without him. Away to Swindon they lost 30-48, with Briggs, Broadbank and Ashby all unbeaten by a visiting rider and Dick's presence would probably have not added too many points. Both Gooch and Pander scored maximums for Oxford as Newport lost there by 13 points and again I don't think Dick would have added enough points to have altered the outcome. It is possible that Bradley may have scored enough additional points to turn the 8 point defeat at Glasgow into a draw, but Wasps did use a tactical substitute for his replacement in one ride, so it would have been unlikely. The same applies to the 8 point defeat at Edinburgh. Even high scores from Bradley would not have reversed the outcome of defeats at Newcastle, Belle Vue and Wolverhampton, by 27-51, 23-55 and 14-64 respectively.

Doesn’t seem like the track alterations have done anything to the actual racing. Still very one line. I know William spent hours in the workshop yesterday morning so glad to see his efforts turning into points. Kye again on a track he’s never seen was outstanding. Most pleased for Nathan, willing to learn hadn’t really scored what he’s deserved the last couple of meeting but did last night which was pleasing. Masters is a joy to watch absolutely effortless last night.

We were worse

So that’s Gary Flint and Dick Barrie trying to defend it so far… 32 points at home… THIRTY TWO

I’m afraid the result is absolutely important. If for Berwick alot of fans dont return after last nights result, then the result was very important.

Enough about the result, it’s not important, how long did it take to run this meeting?

Don’t expect changes,it’s one big happy family. PS I thought the track was crap tonight,but I’m only a paying punter who has never ridden a speedway bike.No doubt that’s how the Team wanted it done.Pity they can’t gate.

Issue 53 of CLASSIC SPEEDWAY is out now Here’s a small taste of the feast of nostalgia inside . . . Subscription only (£20 per year in UK) from https://www.retro-speedway.com/ BIG NIGHTS: Internationale Continuing his review of major individual meetings, PHIL CHARD re-examines the first nine stagings of the classic introduced to compensate Britain for the loss of the lucrative World Final to Sweden in 1961. Inevitably, Ove Fundin – winner of the first three meetings – was in the spotlight for contrasting reasons. Other winners include Barry Briggs, Charlie Monk, Gote Nordin, (cover man) Nigel Boocock and Wimbledon’s home track favourite Trevor Hedge. CYCLE SPEEDWAY: How ‘skid kids’ caught the racing bug DOUG NICOLSON and TONY McDONALD look back on the significant contribution of cycle speedway to its ‘big brother’. Includes a long list of some 90+ names who progressed from pedal power to the ‘real thing’, while BERT HARKINS reveals how he captained two teams who wore the famous colours of Wembley Lions. CRADLEY HEATH: 50 Memorable Moments “Ommer ’um, Cradley!” ROB PEASLEY traces the progress of a Midlands club from its humble third tier beginnings to top flight status and a world class rider in Bernie Persson. Others to feature in our six-page feature include Les Beaumont, Geoff Bennett, Graham Warren, Alan Hunt, Harry Bastable, Ivor Brown, Ivor Hughes (tragically, the only rider killed at Dudley Wood), Chris Julian, Roy Trigg and Bob Andrews. HOME & AWAY What is there to do when your team is racing away on your regular race night? DOUG NICOLSON looks at what enterprising promoters did in the 40s and 50s. PROFILE: Cyril Maidment In the first of a new series, we take a season-by-season statistical look at the former Belle Vue star who also rode for and managed Wimbledon. SECOND CHANCE In the last in our series recalling all non-regular team members who rode in second-halves, junior matches and trials at first division tracks in the first five years of the British League, from 1965 until the end of '69, we dig deep at EXETER, LONG EATON and NEWCASTLE. MORE SHEFFIELD MEMORIES Following 50 Memorable Sheffield Moments published in our last issue, Tigers supporter TONY BAKER sent in his own personal recollections of Thursdays spent cheering on Tigers from the Owlerton terraces throughout the 60s. Plus . . . brief obits on Ernie Baker, Stan Bradbury and John Stallworthy, readers’ letters, photo quiz, crossword and a full-page 1953 Birmingham team photo.

Yes, indeed. I was actually at the meeting. Even though it was over 55 years ago now, I can still remember it more vividly than any other meeting I've ever been to. It was a once in a lifetime experience for a West Ham supporter!

I well remember being stunned at the time at the result of the cup replay, particularly given the circumstances, with Hunter and Harrfeldt both missing. Although this was partly offset by Trevor Hedge being absent for Wimbledon and John Edwards ruled out injured after his first ride, the home team were still expected to win with something to spare. Putting things into context regarding the improvement by Simmons, in his first 18 meetings he scored 8 or more (including bonus points) only 3 times. In the next 8 meetings he achieved this 4 times (from the Newport cup match to the home cup match with Wimbledon). From his sensational performance at Wimbledon onwards he was paid for 8 or more 11 times in 14 league and cup matches. That really illustrates his improved contribution to the team.

Sorry old age and fat fingers on the i pad . the matches were 2018 in the League lost 52-38 when Lawson guesting top scored for Scunny and the other one was in the shield in 2019 when Danny Ayers top scored for Scunny think the score was about the same I think ??

http://assia.org/live/mix-sport19/?lang=pl is decent- Mr G is in the studio !!! https://vk.com/video-53550004_456241057?fbclid=IwAR1LGlA8YuR6A7JX_0R3kdLkPOKO2bxGlOZpx2aGDHe9v7d-rdsxGA4I0II

I have no criticism of Leon as he has done all what he has been asked,but feel he has maybe taken on too much to soon with all his other commitments,might be started to suffer from burn out and lack of equipment to service all his meetings.Apart from Danni who is riding up to his capabilities IM0 don’t know what to make of the rest.

Posted by Leon Flint on his Facebook page, sadly we cant have seven Leon Flints. Other riders are yet to comment. Literally couldn’t sleep last night after what happened yesterday. It simply just isn’t good enough and all I can do is apologies. Few weeks now to go back to the basics and sort it out and think what we need to do to come back stronger.

Then as you said earlier, you wonder what he was watching.

Ipswich v Belle Vue Thursday July 8th https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cpFi9NUAjVA

Leon went out for a run after the meeting so couldn’t have been that battered and bruised , probably letting of some steam after the teams performance

Young Thompson was very impressive .

I'm afraid not, rider averages are one of speedways mysteries to me. I just keep my eye on the averages on the SGB website, but it's full of asterisks, greyed out figures and ifs and buts!

Thomson, Greaves… really?

Aren't those his sponsors? If so, well done to him

Good old Stan - always a West Ham man at heart!

Yup

I thought the meeting was efficiently run, riders were coming out for the next race almost as soon as the previous one finished. Only one re-start I think, and all over in 90 minutes or so, including a 10 minute interval. Slightly disappointed in Jorgensen and Aarnio - I think he's ridden at Leicester as often as Josh Bates this season.

I was watch the Polish language stream and did not understand a word, so never had a clue who was in the running for the title and who wasn't. That was not good.

Final is in Saturday July 24th in Macon France and the meeting starts at 8pm UK time. Not necessarily but almost certain i would imagine. GB are team 4 in the meeting and will wear 7,8 and 18

Ron How is one of those riders who genearlly doesn't get the praise that he deserves. He was a star rider for both Wimbledon and later Oxford and it's a shame that his career was cut short by injury. If I remember he became landlord of a pub in Great Missenden (?) and Ivan Mauger visited on at least one occasion.

First visit to Leicester tonight ,really nice set up but how slick is the track unbelievable. We went not expecting a win and to be fair early on was a gaters paradise here’s my assessment of the riders Danny King. excellent guest Simon Lambert missed the gate on first two rides but all effort Theo Pyper hated the place and you could tell Tero Aarnio expected a bit more from him tonight to be fair Tommy Jorgensen again one of our better riders on the night Macca all effort and signs of a revival after these two meetings Jordan Palin a poor night to be fair and looked like he didn’t like the track Now I won’t be over critical as this riders have balls to race for our entertainment and I respect them ,plus it will take a very good side to go to Leicester and take something this year . Let’s all be thankful to be racing this season and we go again Wednesday at Birmingham one last point not impressed with the tractor racing the water bowser every 3 to 4 heats really prolonged the meeting , so tapes up again this week and support our boys as good as we can , just think what Kent’s fans think of there efforts this last week

Said before meeting began we would get beat ,but didn't think we would get battered like that,worst performance for ages,as mentioned Leon and Kasper both took sore ones last night so are excused,the other five well they were just mince,fed up hearing about strength in depth, we've got #hit in depth something has to change (no idea how or what).If that was as Dick thought the biggest attendance hope it was mostly Edinburgh supporters ,can see the crowd falling after that,kudos to the away supporters staying back for the NDL challenge match.

I believe he told the tribunal he could see straight through the SCB's case and said the whole incident had been a pane

As Sam would say all down to Kandysoft computer programme

Is it because UK opted out of Europe

It's not too often that Terry Tibbs talks speedway these days but when I do, people say Terry you're still the man! So Kings Lynn fans talk to me! I've told Busty so many times that unless his brings back Main Man Rogers into the fold that the sport in the Fluxing Arena of Eastern England is on a slope more slippy, than the EU butter mountains. I had a lunch with little Johnny C in the Wimpy in Chingford High Street just last week, after 2 Milk Shakes and a Quarter Pounder with Cheese, little Johnny C agreed that there is only one man to bring back the glory days and that is Main Man Rogers! I have sent Busty a telex telling him he needs to quickly contact The Ace that is Mase and agree a deal for Main Man Rogers to return with immediate effect. The German chap was ever so nice, in fact my 4th wife Greta had a liaison with him once in Krystof Stojanowski's caravan in the car park of the Smallbrook Stadium on the Island of Wight, but that's a different matter for now! Answer me this, is there is a man with more credentials that Main Man Rogers - the answer is simply no! Look what he did for the career of Bomabardier Harris, turned him into a near GP Gold Meadlist. Don't forget what he did at Coventry Speedway, the way he mentored Big Blayne Scroggins into probably their greatest team manager of all time and of course his success at turning Mildenhall Fen Tigers from the FSO's of the sport to the BMW's! Talking of BMW's my valet boy Christopher Mills, is around to do a bit of spannering if any of you are looking for someone who is handy with a wrench, whilst my business Jimmy Lynch is busy with that wench Audrey he met at the Chinford British Legion just before lockdown in January 2020! But once again I digress. I could go on for hours, but we need to act fast Listen to Terry, bring back Main Man Rogers, Busty! Thank you, goodbye, much looove!!!

I also read that there was a serious infectious didease outbreak in the Neath area that year and restrictions were imposed on crowds etc. Sounds awfully familiar.