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This is also part of the problem with enforcing artificially low team averages. It's the guys in the middle order who get squeezed out every time. High average guys are kept and teams are filled out with low averages.

What about that bloke at Leicester? He always does really well.

I've always advocated allowing referees to use their discretion and allow all four back where a 'racing' incident occurs. Too often we see two riders clash as they take different lines off a bend, and come together. How many times do we hear Kelvin etc call it a 50-50, and how difficult a call it is for the ref to exclude one of them. As it stands, a rider trying to 'race' is often penalised, yet we as fans want to see RACING! I would go further, and where an incident occurs on the third or fourth lap, I would allow the ref the discretion to have a re-run with just the two who fell, and they would fight it out for the positions they were in when the race was stopped. How many times do we see a re-run where the rider who was leading by a mile ends up missing out. Should the rider who was well back in fourth spot be allowed the chance to win the race just because two at the front clashed? Allow refs to exclude where a rider has deliberately brought off another, or just made a mistake and come off, but allow riders who want to race to do so. Speedway would be the winner.

Whilst watching the premiership grand final it seemed to me that the referee made all the correct decisions according to the rules but the rules maybe need amending. any incidents up to the exit of the second bend can only be dealt with either a rerun due to a unsatisfactory start or a exclusion for the cause of the stoppage. There isn’t actually a rule about first bend bunching despite being spoken about repeatedly. why not have a 50/50 no blame rerun for any incidents on the first lap which genuinely is a 50/50 incident. this would allow more 4 rider races and points to be won on the track rather than the referee exclusion light. thoughts ???

Belle Vue want him. ‘Yes he may struggle initially in 1-5 but then he will go to reserve. And also he’s only 18 so really his average should only go 1 way

Poole would never go with 2 two point reserves. They would be there all season, no chance of reserve swaps if one of the top 5 had an off night. Need one decent scoring reserve.

That is the worst team you've ever put together and there've been some stinkers.

Think you are wildly underestimating him. But hope he signs over here so we can see!

I’m confident we may see a new Aussie in the team next year.

Maybe, but watching Holder ride in Poland over the past two seasons, he has definitely worked his way back into the top 20 or so in the world I would say.. And, in my opinion, is quite a way above the level of the likes of Musielak, Kurtz, and Zagar, and even above Fricke... I would say he would be easily vying for third in the averages behind Doyle and Bewley if he rode over here... Seems to have got his "mojo" back so would be a very good signing for anyone I would suggest..

Holder won’t get anywhere near Doyle’s average here. We had all this this time last year when more than one person tipped younger Holder, Kurtz and Max Fricke to all eclipse Doyle this year, and none of them got remotely close.

Wouldn’t disagree regarding the pijpers

Fingers crossed.

British riders get a 2.5% average reduction.

Shame for stormy, don't see him getting a place anywhere on that average. Might be last we see of him

Trevor Redmond rider/team manager/promoter for the Tigers in the Provincial League season but probably no one since.

Beat me by 10 seconds lol

Can tell you last Saturdays if that would help.

Surely not *that* Mike West? The one that Andy Williams sung about in The Impossible Dream?

Would assume Edwards will be at Redcar?

Can someone in the know please tell me Saturdays lottery numbers.

Ace to Berwick orGlasgow,Theo retires to help him anyone.

Has been muted elsewhere, though, that as the boy doesn’t yet drive, being in the same team would help with transport logistics.

Best team rider I ever saw

Think more chance of Harris at Oxford than Glasgow.

I've always thought the panto season shouldn't start until Dec 1st ......we seem to run a 12 month season on the bsf.

I think you’ll be very close if not bang on with that.

As far as I’m concerned, I would put Harris’s previous season with us down as a blip……and would have him back in a heartbeat.

Given that in 2022 Chris Holder had a higher average than Woffinden, Doyle, Bewley and Jack Holder in Poland, and Janowski, Dudek and Lindgren in Sweden I'd suggest he's hardly a spent force.

Chris Harris won't be at Glasgow. Glasgow management aren't going to splash out 8.75 points on a rider who let them down drastically just a couple of years ago. 14.77 left for 3 riders imo. Benjamin Basso 8.52 Tom Brennan 6.71 Claus Vissing 5.00 Marcin Nowak 5.00

Out of interest, who are the 19 riders who you think shouldn't be in the NDL? Or if it's easier to answer, which is the one rider that you think is the only one who should be in the NDL?

Racing definitely, but for once, just once it would be nice to win the league!

Can't see broc being back at Glasgow next season

Broc Nicol goes well at Poole.!!

Ace rides Theo manages trust me

No chance Hans and Nicholls will be at Peterborough. I've given you all the first 4

I think the initial Post is good one. I totally agree with it.

To summarise Yes No Maybe

Wow! And I thought Poole's 2022 top 3 was top heavy!

Hume is popular because he is a nice guy as much as his riding but personally I think he still has a lot of potential and will improve next season.

So, somebody who is close to the management team at pb has been passing you information directly to you and you post it on BSF?

...I only saw Ronnie on a couple of occasions in 1972 and he was still a very classy act. To think what more he may have achieved if he hadn't retired for a number of years before making a return to the UK and scoring the way he did. Personally I think his achievements as a rider tend to get overlooked. One of the greats!

Totally underwhelming.

I can't imagine Glasgow would let Brennan go. Think Nick Morris has an average well above his ability, looks a quirk of the 10 match rolling aves rather than his true ability, as all his poor matches early season have been scrubbed from the stats!

I'm liking this lineup: Basso Lawson Brennan Vissing Nowak T Pijper A Pijper I believe this is <= 40

Why? What does it matter to you?

Harris and Basso is using up too many points on two riders IMO, even with "bargain" Vissing on 5.00 If Harris has signed it's a weird signing for himself, doesn't he want a midweek team to facilitate continental weekend options.....?

Don't know and don't care

Thanks for the replies everyone, seems I'm not the only one having issues, I am using chrome and have never had issues with the website up until the last week or so. Obviously the site servers are struggling to cope for whatever reason or they have it down for planned maintenance at certain times and just don't warn anyone, like other websites usually do. Still not working at all for me, on chrome, edge or firefox.

Personally would rather see the great racing that scunthorpe and Redcar produces than rubbish racing and massive home wins. Nobody really cares who wins the league so would rather be entertained at the meetings I attend