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Irrespective of the future the Cooks are well ahead of him in GB and that’s what matters for next season.

I try that with my wife, but she's still there !?

The riders comes with a good CV from what i am told lol

Shouldn't that be plan..... FORE!!!!!

Its been a farce for years really that Brits especially those on a 3.5-5 point CL average struggle to get places whilst there is always a string of Aussies signed up (with all the additional costs associated) if only a little of that funding was sprinkled around the Brits perhaps there would be a bit more progression.

So we’ll get to see him racing his own teammates again then…. think I’d rather stick with NKI….

To me it’s about the experience when attending, good viewing , good racing, friendly people at the gates , clean toilets, good food and drink outlets and a warm welcome from the Glasgow fans.

Why would anyone not want Nicki Pedersen!?...he's the last of the speedway gladiators...he's the only man worthy of stepping into Harris' boots..yes to Nicki for Christmas please santa...

Must be running a bit short of darts now Flappy

Can all the whingers on this thread please give it a rest!! If you are that concerned about the delay in delivery of your print magazine why not get a digital subscription or better still go round to your local newsagent and buy a copy of the Beano that other great comic.

Isn't that wrestling stuff though pretty much the same as the 70's style speedway punch ups and people spouting over the mic.I don't watch the wrestling because the snippets I have seen is all pantomime stuff,a little like 70's speedway .Give me big daddy and cat weasel any time

Cycle Speedway killed these teams as they offered bigger, faster tracks & entertainment

Whoooosh!

Get the No.6 right and then Plymouth will be challenging for silverware next season. 1-5 is as good as any other team in this league.

Looks a good side this Plymouth side!!

C- Nicki’s best days are long gone

But does every rider who ever put their leg over a bike need to make to to the CL and above... A Development league needs riders to pad it out, like the Ben Morley's of the future. Not everyone is going to make it, but why should they not be allowed to ride and enjoy the sport just because they haven't made it...? That's why some riders chuck the towel in, they lose enjoyment out of it because there's always this drama of who's going to be the next big thing and who isn't. I'm speaking first hand from experience here, me and many others before me have given up because we were classed as 'not good enough anymore' because we weren't the next Tai Woffinden, it's ridiculous. Plus... How do you know who is and who isn't going to make it until you've given them a chance, and I don't mean one or two seasons in the NL then throw them in the bin, I mean a proper stint with a bit of stability. Who knew that Jason Doyle was going to be world champion until his late 20s... If he was British he'd have been thrown in the bin years before that happened and no one would be the wiser.

What ‘additional costs’ ? If the club has a permit in existence then there aren’t any. They get the same points money / basic wage guarantee, most are put up as guests by club hosts at no cost to the club so no different to equivalent brits. If anything they are willing to put up with more hardships to try and make it than a lot of Brit youngsters who some times demand way more than they are currently worth but I do agree, the rules with averages dont help the middle order riders, perhaps grading is the fairer way ?

Then you need to open your eyes. The British youth rounds are the lowest in numbers there have been for years as very few are taking up the sport. Yes, there’s few good ones coming through , mostly now moving into 250’s , but not many, and where are there replacements? You need to look at the ages of those that are around , not many of team racing age. One club who enquired about running in NDL was informed they probably wouldn’t be considered as there wasn’t enough riders of the right quality to fill another team. Yes, the rules are an issue but more so the lack of proper schools where kids can get on a bike and try the sport.

I thought the Leicester cubs had announced their team.

I’m so excited, can’t wait for the lower league champions to announce a rider, I might post about it for the next 90 pages.

If that happens i'm going to need someone to lift me over the turnstiles

Pearson is 17, Ben Cook is 25, Zach is 23. If he is to be better than either Cook by the time he is 18 he hasn't got long to prove it. He seems to be doing well in the Australian Championships but how he will progress who knows . Quite happy for the Cooks to be at Poole for however long they want to be.

As much as i like Max im not really sure how a rider who would have clocked 12.00 bar following home a team mate once is going to land a team place, its just too big a chunk of points used. Personally i think it would be nice to restrict the use of riders on high averages (to force rider progression up through and out the NDL) no 9+ riders for example but average manipulation would likely go crazy. My bigger hope is that Max lands a CL place as him missing out there after a strong finish with Leicester would be especially harsh.

According to whispers on the golf course, it's going to be plan C ...

I'm all for passion, there's not enough of it in British speedway but seventies style punch-ups and referee's box storming isn't my cup of tea and wouldn't work nowadays IMO, it was 'of its time'. I do agree with Haza though, I think American wrestling is the biggest load of tripe out there but its a show that people flock to and it fills huge arenas and stadiums. We need some of that somehow.

Not too much this year, previously free entry tickets, billboard advertising etc. TV advert campaign this year although the timing was all wrong, towards the end of July and saying Friday nights. There were only two Friday meetings in the next two months.

Kingsley or Andersen would be my choices out of rhose, both got a bit of aggression in them. Danes and Brummies on a Wednesday though not a good fit. Kingsley for me. (from that list)

Silly time to tell someone! Should wait til after the final.

Wasn’t exactly whenever he could, he guested twice for Plymouth, once in the Jubilee league when the Ben Barker thing happened, and the other time he was supposed to be commentating on BSN but Hans Andersen called in sick and so he borrowed some Kevlars lol. He also rode in the pairs at late notice. He’s had offers from half of the league I think, I’m 99.9% sure it won’t be Plymouth.

Or.... You could have Nathan Ablitt at reserve. I mean he beat Morley there, so can ride it and then have Batch as the last rider in top 5!! Would come to 39.97 if other averages in confirmed signings thread are correct!

Going head to head with Edinburgh on a Friday evening was a bad move IMO. Sunday afternoon is more family friendly and you would get the odd punter coming along the M8 for their fix.

If I was aBrummie I’d be hoping it was a rumour

Tate's msg to me, Hey m8, don't remember much of last night, I was knocked out for awhile & had 2 siezures at the track, few weeks off & I'll be right.

He had a serious injury this year but was still well up there with being the best in Poland at times. If you think that Niels K Iversen is even anywhere near Holder or Pedersen’s standard then you’re delusional or misinformed.

Don't suppose you checked to see if any of the riders were friends with a tactically aware manager?

Try telling the Armadale devils that. No even close to enough riders good enough to put together 7/8 competitive sides in the NDL. So not really sure where you’re getting that from.

Absolutely agree about the limit. Yes but by that time I'd imagine all the top riders would already have deals in place elsewhere. Ruml, Nicol, kemp just off top of my head better than any of the possible options seen fit the 4.22. manzares was crap last time he was here would need massive improvement since he went away to be worthwhile imo

Oh no it's not.....

Look at us 'Brummies' hijacking the 'Pirates' topic

You could re-word that statement.Regulars are in shock.

You've just perfectly summed Lee up... One of the most exciting yet disappointing riders I've seen in a long time... Hopefully he can put his mistakes behind him and start scoring and exciting more consistently. I would have had him back in my Diamonds team on a 3.00 average, but not a 4.00

Really, a few people have said it. Apparently already signed for a Champ team and 'it definitely isn't Poole..'

More than ever promoters need to get their pricing right. Putting up admission prices at a time domestic finances are under pressures that haven't been experienced in years is a recipe for disaster - and at a time when the Championship has been watered down. It's may be not the time to be speculating by spending heavily on advertising campaigns. I'd happily have accepted Stupid Mickey Mouse competitions to break up a completely barren couple of months. Not agreeing dates for these competitions was bordering on criminal.

Yea absolutely don’t we all BUT it’s entertainment/ sport or sport /entertainment industry either way going back to those days the crowds was massive compared to today promoters knew how to promote rather than take people for granted- American wrestling is contrived rubbish but they do wrestle in full stadiums. Not comparing speedway to wrestling but fans want some controversy even when Buster went into the refs box it got the crowd going .

I was commenting on one person who is very negative on a regular basis. Very strange that you have read it as a dig at fans who no longer have a team to support.

Yes it will he at least had 4 at home not sure how many he did away

Doug Templeton Mike Fullerton

They’re school age so expecting them to travel from the midlands or Manchester to Kings Lynn or Ipswich on a school night isn’t really on is it.

Yup, it is indeed his real name! Ace John Pijper to be legally exact! His nickname (at home) is either ‘Acey Jay’ or ‘AJ’