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Can I suggest you do what a lot of other Panthers supporters do and just ignore the idiot.

Another defeatist! What’s wrong with you lot? This forum is a cesspit of complete misery!! You can wave the white flag and stop going if you like, but there’s plenty of good speedway I’m looking forward to attending in both leagues this year and I’m sure there’s thousands of others across the country that feel the same. It’s not a case of “burying head in the sand” as someone put it, far from it I acknowledge the difficulties some are facing and it’s concerning. But there was real enthusiasm before the season started and despite doubts over the longer term future of Peterborough and now Wolves, neither club have folded and it’s as you were as far as this season’s league set up is concerned so why do people think everyone should now just throw in the towel? It’s bizarre. If the worst does happen with those clubs then the relevant people will deal with that if and when that arises. If that means pushing another club or two in to the top flight, or merging the two in to one big league who knows, but life is short and none of us who post on here even know if we’ll be here this time next year! Live for today, smile, and worry about what happens next year and beyond when the time comes. You never know, it might not end up as bad as you think!

Precisely this - I’ve asked this many times but why is it the case nowadays that as soon as a rider is missing they are replaced with a guest? That never used to be the case and shouldn’t be now. It used to only be a guest for your no.1 and if you had two riders missing. The same applies to Luke Becker and Wolves with regards Scott Nicholls. All this borrowing riders from other teams makes the sport look an absolute joke. Likewise Scunthorpe shouldn’t have a whole pick of guests for the reserve berth. They should be made to pick National League only riders or sign somebody. It has just become an absolute farce.

I’m not so sure about compensation, I think that’s misguided. In real terms as things stand, Buster has nothing to sell and a buyer for the club has nothing to buy, apart from a club name on a Speedway licence. I think all criticism of Buster is unfair, he’s doing his best for sure in my opinion, he IS a good guy and does want the club to survive. It’s not easy running a Speedway club and very often, actually always, it’s about mitigating losses rather than making a profit. There certainly won’t be any compensation from AEPG unless they comply with the Peterborough Local Plan and specifically policy LP40, where they should provide a new facility. But seemingly some councillors haven’t read the local plan since it was made available in 2016. It’s a tough read though. LOL (Page78 is relevant to Panthers, the document is on the Peterborough City Council website).

No one has mentioned the elephant in the room! The Bikes! They can’t handle grippy tracks now so it has to be slick and slick means you can’t water it or if it rains your basically stuffed. Welcome to modern speedway ☹️

Oh no,, not another happy positive person,,, what's the matter with you lot. Defeat, misery and being depressed is the way forward.

Let's have some positivity,,,,, Ipswich won't have it all their own way,,, so taking that into account 74 16

you really can’t water a bare slick track with a blue groove would be like riding on ice

Have you got any links to petrol stations with free pumps, broadcast equipment suppliers with free cameras, free professional grade data uplink systems too? Unlike Polish streams (which are not streams they are re shares of Canal+ etc) BSN is a small business as are the other small British club streams. You don’t pay for them we can’t do it, simple.

You're like a 2nd rate journalist. Your sources are terrible.

This has been a problem for years.....tracks need to be prepared to provide the best racing possible and not to appease riders.

He likes his erm's, challenger for Darren Moore of the Owls lol. Seriously, we need to support Mick, as he seems to be the only person who is willing to bring this issue into the public eye.

Signed. A lot of people enjoy having a pop at Monmore but now with this news reality kicks in, speedway cant afford to lose another club, these small technical tracks were always a big reason it used to be said in the past a rider needs to ride in the UK to be in with a chance of winning the world title. Times have changed machinery has changed but tracks like Monmore helps riders to hone different skills.

An alternate take on last night's meeting, after heat 6 when all the Gladiators have had one or two rides to learn the track, gearings etc Poole won the last 9 heats 29-25! I know Plymouth were horrendous to start with, but at least they improved as the meeting went on, is that not what away teams are supposed to do? If they can start like they finished next time, could be a much closer match!

Since the days of Charles Ochiltree at Coventry I've always thought you can make a track too perfect that it becomes a motorway. It's also the case that high winds dry tracks out more quickly than hit sun sometimes. It wasn't a good watch but a trackman is pilloried for over watering and pilloried for not watering enough. As for ripped starts, many do it, some more blatantly than others. Having ridden at Leicester both Worrall and Howarth really can't complain about biased ripped starts. On this occasion I don't think Poole did anything wrong.

At least he cares more than the current owner who no doubt is just waiting to hear if he gets any compensation and how much it will be .

But the best team

and we must not upset the riders... to hell with the fans

Been saying it for years. it is no wonder fans stay away. I genuinely think one big league is the way to go now - all this bollocks with riders riding for two clubs is just ridiculous. If it means one big league and 5 rider teams then so be it.

Kurtz polish match is a rearranged meeting that was rained off a few weeks ago. I was told as part of the deal with the PZM to allow riders to do more leagues it was agreed that Polish clubs could rearranged postponed fixtures in midweek & have first refusal on riders over UK,Sweden & Denmark if they are due to be racing for their club in those country’s on the rearranged date.

You are also away with the fairies and do yourself and your club no favours with the continual crap you post on here.

First time there in a few years. The improvements are clear to see. The racing was really good. Enjoyed that. as Ian said. Speedway was the winner

Put the phone down. He’s on the gas now

The UK have given up their protected night on Thursday.. They could have not done that, but they decided it was worthwhile.. All to bring in riders that every week, depending on the weather, may miss meetings over here.. The Poles who negotiated the deal must have been impressed by the way the BSPL drove such a hard bargain..

Has anybody got number Krzysztof Kasprzak's number? We need a number 1

You really don’t help with your postings.

I certainly think a less is more is better and you could then have people pay £20 for it It is easier to get someone to come and try and event once than to get them to come to several meetings which is why I think a british championship series would be better as you can promote these differently to league meetings, go for extreme sport, aim for the adrenaline junky etc. crashes, fights etc. and you're likely to get someone there once if they think its a one off in their home town

The old app no longer works, BSN has a new website which if you go on the web page options on your phone and choose “Add to Home Screen” you will get a little BSN tile appear as with other apps, and the website will magically become an app

Straight from the horse's mouth and less of the journalist stuff I'm darts player

I thought it was kind of universal starts should be grippy, never considered it something that gave a particular home advantage. I think Leon said on bsn that Berwick had asked for theirs to be a bit slicker but most tracks I've seen have ripped up starts

Rubbish track at Poole isnt exactly ground breaking news is it!!

We can all live in hope! It could be made larger/longer not just wider taking/using the dog track. Just imagine a track in Poole that could rival the National Speedway Stadium in the UK and the continental tracks. Awesome dream

It is a shame Mick is an EX promoter !

Going to risk it , it's only 6.5 hour round trip. What could possibly go wrong lol

Listen here https://audioboom.com/posts/8284634-bbc-radio-cambs-20-april-2023-concerns-about-the-closure-of-peterborough-panthers-mick-bratley-in

Riders don't like it when it gets watered during the meeting.

Depends if he's after drugs or drinking himself into a coma!

Thankfully some people are waking up and realising that AEPG throwing their weight around and everyone off site, and turning it into a car park, does in no way mean that they are anywhere near the prize of getting their plans approved. We are now in the trenches stage with hand to hand fighting next up. Mick Bratley just gave an excellent interview on BBC Radio Cambridgeshire, talking about what the club means to him (as a 50 year fan which included his promotional tenure with the unforgettable 2006 (although not mentioned)), what the situation currently is as we all know it, and what could/should be the final outcome? Basically that means incorporating Peterborough Speedway in any new development or relocation at the expense of AEPG or their masters as detailed in LP 30 (amusingly PCC were reported not to be aware of the protection order in their own plan )

I get it that the pre season optimism always gets people excited but I was told Nigel Tolley expected to win the League this season, I'm saying now their is not a cat in hell's chance of winning anything with the way this team has been built, It's between the Glads and Brummies who will win the wooden thingy.

Combined?....

You're wrong Regards THJ

There is a 4 hour time limit for parking at the shopping centre but there are bus stops. If you are getting there really early it might be worth seeing if the stadium car park is open. Don’t expect too much from the city centre though lol.

actually think Terry has done a brilliant job getting the track smooth at Poole

Just bumping this up, if you haven’t already signed please do so. We’re not going down without a fight, 4 pages in the Express and Star tonight. I know some of you detest Monmore Green but quite literally the future of top flight Speedway in this country depends on a positive outcome. Any more clubs fall by the wayside and it’s all over I’m afraid.

Don't know why TR gets such a raw deal on here... He will have spent countless hours and covered thousands of miles driving 45 minutes outwards from Swindon town centre and back, in all directions of the compass.. Selflessly and forensically looking at every single piece of land within that zone so he can build the Robins a new stadium.. He could though possibly save himself a lot of time and fuel by putting "Abbey Stadium" into the sat nav.. I believe there is a track already there at this location, and a new stadium is already being built on it I have heard.. Sounds like it could be just what the Robins need..

Won't be us after liking Twitter posts taking the mickey out of the Nicki P situation.

Just my idea if they try to make this all one league, so I have looked at a list of riders who potentially could ride in the UK, now this would be championship standard racing, the issue faced or shall I say one of them is that some clubs can’t pay more than championship pay, also you would have to slightly weaken the product to get the number of riders to potentially fill 14 teams, so I calculated the average of all riders and times it by 7 to get a team building total of 42.00 this would mean GP riders coming in on 12.00 avg, other top non-gp starts on 10.00 and then decent prospects on a 7.00 and new time foreigners (U24’s) on 5.00 avg. The next issue was that some fans want to see big names, some fans don’t so some clubs can afford a bigger name others can’t, so it will just add to the way team building is done, also next up on the agenda is that people don’t want to see lower end wobblers vs GP riders so I would tweak the format slightly. So the way I would do it is split the “one league” into a North/South divide, I have included Workington to make up the numbers but if rumours that Birmingham may have issues next season then it could easily be 6 side divisional leagues British League North – Glasgow, Berwick, Redcar, Scunthorpe, Belle Vue, Sheffield & Workington. British League South – Ipswich, Poole, Kings Lynn, Plymouth, Oxford, Leicester & Birmingham. For the league – team rides home and away once against each other, 2 points for a win with a bonus point available for an aggregate win, no tactical subs allowed in the league, at the end of the season you have a British League North and a British League South champion and these two sides meeting in an end of season British League Championship play-off to crown the overall British Champion The league racing would give each side 5 home meetings and an additional meeting if they win their regional division and quality for the British championship play-off. The league programme format would see team building done differently Riders at no.1 and no.4 would be classed as Heat Leaders Riders at no.2 and no.3 would be classed as Second Strings Rider at no.5 would be classed as an Senior Reserve rider Riders at no.6 and no.7 would be classed as reserves It would be a programmed 13 heat format with heat 14 being a nominated heat, it would feature two races where riders at no.1 and no.4 combine against their opposition numbers, it would also contain two reserves races where the no.6 and no.7 riders face each other Each reserve will have 3 programmed rides and will have two races together plus one race with their Senior Reserve each, the senior reserve will only partner the second strings in their other two programmed rides, the “heat leaders” riding at No.1 & No.4 will race together twice and then one other ride each with both second strings. During a season the reserves can only progress to racing as a Senior Reserve no higher, a Senior Reserve can only progress to Second String standard and a Second String rider can only progress to Heat Leader status. Riders riding no.1 – no.5 will get 4 heats each, riders at no.6 or no.7 will get 3 programmed rides. When it comes to Guests etc. you can only get a Guest rider from the other region. Clubs run on the night that best suits them, and would build a team that would be available mostly on that race night, if the opposition lose a rider to Poland etc. that is just the way it is unfortunately. British League Cup All 14 teams will ride in the British League Cup, where they will ride 6 meetings (3 home, 3 away) against opposition from the rival regional division, so taking Glasgow as an example Ipswich, Kings Lynn & Oxford at Home Poole, Plymouth & Leicester Away from home They are not drawn against Birmingham. Points are scored 2 points for a win with an away point awarded if losing by less than 6 Tactical Substitutions are allowed twice during these meetings when you are losing by 6 points or more, a HL can only replace a SS on a tactical sub, a SS can only replace a SNR reserve rider on a tactical sub The league cup standings will feature all 14 sides in a league table with the top 8 sides qualifying for two-legged quarter finals, so 1st vs 8th, 2nd vs 7th, 3rd vs 6th, 4th vs 5th etc. This idea is similar to what is happening in Champions League football where all 32 clubs are going to be in one big league table but don’t play every side, so some of it comes down to luck of the draw of which club you draw home or away, This competition generates a further 3 home meetings in total and if you progress to the final an additional 3 meetings at home. British Super 12 Series Replace the British Championship with a Super 12 series, raced at 12 venues featuring 12 riders, 12 qualifying heats, top 4 to the final £3k to the winner, £2k to second, £1k to third Free Tyres, Fuel etc for all riders, all televised on Eurosport deal so that these riders can maximum sponsorship Overall winner takes home additional £30k, £20k to second, £10k to third ** This will also include the 'British U24 Rising Star Series" same thing but 8 riders, 8 qualifying heats and a final ** so 22 heats of racing I think British Speedway needs to focus just on that "British" Speedway and having something there for domestic riders to actually want to race for, the top brits will go to Poland and compete internationally, this is for the riders that won't get there or do get there but are on their way back down. Super 12 Series Rider Line Up and just to give you an idea of what teams could look like for the league racing, not sure if any are retired yet or may make a comeback even.

It's an age thing. We need more thinking time as we lose brain cells: speaking personally of course and not for Bratters! Mick's the man in such times of crisis and you want to be on his side. Only orion and a few from the former fun palace of WWoS thought differently AEPG clearly thought/think that this will go through with a nod so it's great that people like Mick are now waking people up to the fact that only AEPG seem to feel that they've got an easy run through. They don't want a fuss. Just look at a quote from Monday's meeting with the locals: "At one point AEPG asked residents not to discuss matters on social media" - which shows a lack of understanding of the world we now live in, that was the response from Cllr Stevenson as mentioned in Bratters interview.

Ht 15 59.66 Note that ht 1 was just 0.05 outside the track record

Wildcard Dominik Kubera. Reserves Bartlomiej Kowalski and Wiktor Przyjemski.