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  1. What we are seeing here is the years of neglect and lack of investment or ideas for speedway coming home to roost, we have nobody else to blame but ourselves, when sky first gave us the 5 million in the 90s it was like giving a heroin junkie 5 million and saying put some in the bank for the future and spend a bit on getting some help for your addiction
    11 points
  2. I am often amazed by those business who ignore, and often ridicule, their most important asset - their paying customers!
    7 points
  3. Come on guys, the writing has been on the wall for years in Uk speedway. You can speculate when it all started, but doubling up, over reliance on TV sponsorship, the loss of stadia to building developments, limited race nights due to Poland , and a steady dwindling of support at some have all contributed to the downward trajectory . To lay the blame for the current perilous state of the PL solely on Ipswich is IMO misplaced… one could look back and blame Swindon, Wolverhampton, Birmingham and Oxford “spires” . All have contributed to the slow and steady decline in Premier league speedway. The CL clubs have been complicit as well, failing to show any interest in accepting “ promotion” to the other league . We’re all right Jack comes to mind…….this is now surely about to be put to the test ?
    6 points
  4. Surely they have to be looking at Perry pretty sure he has outscored every reserve that rode at Berwick this year
    5 points
  5. But this comes down to who controls the sport, the sport is run by the riders for the riders, don’t know how long I have been telling anyone who will listen this message, until a governing body gets hold of and control of the sport and dictates boundaries which everyone must adhere to then the sport will continue to decline with everyone in it for their own gain and you have to say with nobody to stop them who can blame them, as an example and I say this not to single him out but as an example but Brady Kurtz is effectively holding the sport in Britain to ransom, make it 2 leagues or I’m off, doesn’t matter what the fans want or what is the best direction for British speedway it what works for me, me me me me me
    5 points
  6. Didn't help the number one's hoovering up all the money and then a lot of them leaving the UK as soon as the trough was empty.
    5 points
  7. I suspect Ian wrote that tongue in cheek?
    4 points
  8. Riders need to take their fair share of the brunt of this mess too.
    4 points
  9. The lack of investment and potentially purchasing stadiums in the 70's and 80's when possibly some speedway promoters could of done could of resulted in more speedway tracks still operational in present times but then again the speedway promotion owning Somerset speedway didn't save that place did it? - Anyone that has an asset that can potentially make them financially secure and wealthy for life will soon forget about trying to prop up small profit margin/loss making speedway outfits and stadiums however much they enjoy the sport. Norwich and Southampton were two of the biggest speedway operations in the early 60's yet both were sold to property developers. In the mid 1990's Cradley was probably the best supported track in the Country and the stadium was owned by people that in the past had run the speedway yet they ended up with the same fate. I'm afraid evolution has a lot to do with speedways current plight. In the late 60's when speedway had a major uplift in popularity many people who spectated in the immediate post war boom period from 1946 - early 50's were still about, nearly every large Town or City had at least one Greyhound stadium operational which in the most were ideal for installing a speedway track, most working class people had more disposable income combined with cheaper admission prices, persons WITH a TV only had 3 channels rather than the hundreds available today and the leisure market wasn't nowhere near as saturated as it is today. Also the advances in health and safety from the 1970's onwards has escalated costs as well as the engine and bike advancements which has resulted in running speedway tracks and participating in speedway being out of reach to more and more people than it used to. - While mistakes have been made which in fairness probably anyone would have done I can't see being realistic, how speedway racing in this Country would/could have taken a different path. That said most sports in this Country don't make money and rely on enthusiastic benefactors to survive. The present dilemma is that a 5 team top flight is not sustainable while the 2nd tier which is just about sustainable doesn't want to see its products undermined to prop up the ailing top flight. - British speedways been here before in 1990 and 1994 and the 2nd Division in them days ended up being seriously compromised to help the top flight. - The only way I can see things working out is one professional League with 5 or 6 person teams regardless of GP rider availability and teams running on their preferred racenight. Surely theres enough free Fridays and Saturdays from late March to the end of September to work around the GP's?
    4 points
  10. Again, it goes back to a lack of vision, strategy and direction... Other sports have used the TV money well by ensuring they elected a person to work with them in driving their sport forward... Someone give autonomy by the clubs, to ensure that agreed exacting standards are maintained by the clubs, no "self policing", or "taking your bat and ball home" if you don't get your own way, and no deciding what league is best for me to run in.. But that someone is held to account also to ensure they deliver a sport moving forwards... They should have been "building a brand", using experts in that field, and using marketing experts to attract new interest from Joe Public and businesses, and using experts in event management to deliver a "match day experience" that encourages repeat visits, and targets families... Instead they did.... ?????
    4 points
  11. I've made a few of these, and this is an updated 2026 version, showing all Polish, SpeedwayLigaen and Bauhaus Ligan tracks and stadiums plus Warsaw. https://www.google.com/maps/d/u/0/edit?mid=1C3RGUldA6ob2i3hqjjN91Ah7LKMqJA8&usp=sharing
    3 points
  12. It would impact mine, it’s been my life since I went to my first meeting when my parents took me when I was 1 and nothing has ever come close so I would be devastated
    2 points
  13. As much as us paying public love speedway, if the sport disappeared off the face of the earth, we might miss it but it would not have a significant impact on our lives. Whereas riders and those (supposedly) running the sport would be the ones hit hardest.
    2 points
  14. 100%... However... "I want you to spend around £10k on two very good bikes, maintain them using an expensive tuner, and be available at all times as we will have a fixture list but it will change constantly, and you will be needed to guest at a moments notice"... And. If you do that, I will pay you tens of thousands, and we could win something that actually gets us to meet the local mayor of our local town!"...
    2 points
  15. I think if he decided to only ride in Poland and Denmark would be a bad move, he’s only 16 and would have a lot of pressure in Poland, riding in England would enable him to enjoy time on his bike without the massive pressure of Poland. I do worry him going straight into Poland, yes he has been shown the money, but that isn’t looking at the very long term and building to that, confidence is everything in any sport and Poland can make or break you. His Polish club will be telling him to base himself in Poland etc, but maybe his camp should talk to Boycie, Darcy and the Cook brothers and ask them what suited them best when they started out.
    2 points
  16. He certainly had plenty of offers, fair play to him staying Loyal to Stewart as he brought him back over. Solid top 2 for the bandits.
    2 points
  17. You can't say nobody to blame but ourselves. Most on here are just fans who pay their money and watch speedway, some may sponsor in some form. The blame stops at the promoters now and in the past, most just looking after their own self interest. No thought for next year / future years. The ones who have a vision are overruled by the establishment IMO Several promoters are now unhappy about the present stalemate, as they can't sell season tickets for the Xmas market,as they don't know how many meetings they could be potentially riding. Also they are missing out on potential, existing or new sponsors because as above they don't know the set up of the league or how many meetings you are going to run, it's anywhere from 8 to 12/14 home league meetings (championship)
    2 points
  18. Because if he doesn’t the tax man will have it off him, it’s a legal form of money laundering/ business offsetting performed by accountants of millions of millionaires worldwide in many different guises, all while getting the millionaire his/her toys paid for ,I think the only reason it doesn’t happen in speedway is because there is not enough money involved to make a dent to a millionaire
    2 points
  19. Signing No 3 announced 6 pm on Monday UTC
    2 points
  20. End of the day he is rare breed like Darcy, yes we need to be sensible with pay but this is an entertainment business and he will bring that in mass if he arrives at Poole. I remember when Poole snoozed on Darcy when he came down in the second half for Boston, he stood out and we should have got him at the time as an asset! Know assets aren’t around now but a year later he cost us 35k with a transfer from KL at the time. Long and short break the bank for Beau he will be worth it!
    2 points
  21. It has zero identity, nor brand... It is neither a sport, nor sports entertainment.. The promoters of yesteryear knew some pantomime villains got crowds engaged.. The racing was often just part of the package.. UK Speedway was always a bit made up and contrived, but often had thousands in attendance so the spectacle seemed to have some resonsnce, and relevance... Now its hundreds that watch in three quarter empty stadia, without the same atmosphere, and even more contrived than it used to be..
    2 points
  22. The coverage of Speedway is so light touch and superficial (always has been) that I can't really think of it attracting anybody. The beauty of most sports are when you start to scratch the surface and go beyond skin deep and begin to understand the intricacies involved... what's the track like and are you going to make any changes before throwing back to a giggling presenter telling us that the absolute bilge we're watching is brilliant Speedway and great racing doesn't really cut it for most sports fans.
    2 points
  23. The way things are going a 6 team Premiership would be a tremendous achievement ahead of 2026
    2 points
  24. think Hagon possibly away up north
    1 point
  25. Good old Moley. 👍🤣
    1 point
  26. Yes it is.. Form an orderly queue... Hope that golf cart is running....
    1 point
  27. The promoters have created "full time pros" with the constant doubling up and fundamental need for guesting... And those who do it the most are the ones who are more towards the end of their careers rather than the start... No idea how they will fill team spots in a few years time, and if those closed tracks ever come back then what will they do?
    1 point
  28. While this is all true, it also goes back to a lack of foresight from the sport's administrators. Riders call the shots because there's such a chronic lack of them, making it a seller's market. While pointing fingers and dealing in blame isn't particularly helpful, we do need to recognise that the lack of talent coming through means there's little competition for places and prices for riders go up. The sport is in such a dire place that only short term thinking is an option for both riders and promotions.
    1 point
  29. With the way the team building has started you could get him as a number 6/7 and that would be a very astute signing,and If Hagon makes the reserve partner that would be a very solid reserve pairing. Lambert 4.48 Hagon 3.48 So that could be 1.Kildemand 8.05 5.Morris 6.86 6.Lambert 4.48 7.Hagon 3.48 Total 22.87 leaving 17.13 for number 2,3,4 which isn’t bad at all gives plenty of strength in depth.
    1 point
  30. think you can add the laydown machines too all the other stuff, and most importantly the costs.
    1 point
  31. Zischke was the Darcy Ward protégé with tremendous talent, but I believe Bailey has always been the next big thing.
    1 point
  32. Great news. On his average I can imagine he had plenty of opportunities. Well done Berwick.
    1 point
  33. Well, you thought right about Nick, he's signed up! Lets hope you're wrong about Drew tho..........
    1 point
  34. Are there stats for this type of thing? I don't doubt that Harris is near / at the top, but it would be interesting to see who else was up there. Separate tables for Premiership and Championship would also be welcome as it should show the difference between the quality of opposition. For example, does Charles Wright make more passes in the top flight or second tier. Does he score most of his points from the gate at Redcar but have to do more from the back at Oxford? I wonder how many 'surprises' we would find in the top 20.
    1 point
  35. Looks like the rumour mill has dried up and thank god for that
    1 point
  36. Was told by another northern promoter today, that they can't sell season tickets until they know the league set up, at the moment it's not confirmed how many teams will be in the league
    1 point
  37. Natalie Quirk and Nigel Pearson were two excellent journalists who put the hours in and were able to explain the sport to their audience. Experts are not there to lead the show but to support the professional presenters, which is why the Americans call them 'color' commentators. The loss of Nat and Nigel alone has led to a massive downturn in the quality to the TV product IMO. There's no excuse for Tatum though. Taking aside the annoying stock phrases, he just seems to phone it in. It's as if he does no research. No insight into form or anything. Commentators should be researching and have a pack of data on that rider's results. If they don't know, they get there early and talk to them in the pits. After all those years, there really is no excuse for such amateurish on screen talent. There's a lot that could be done with speedway as a TV product, but if you don't fix that it will always be a bit rubbish.
    1 point
  38. Speedway, sadly, doesn't often own the land that ultimately can leverage any debt... Debt is actually good if you can make more money using someone else's, and then pay them back... Living off sponsors money, and only renting your track, with assets that only cover tractors, air fences, and starting gates etc etc, is pretty much, ultimately, built on sand...
    1 point
  39. The sport, sadly, is riddled with ex riders iin positions that just being an ex speedway rider doesn't qualify you for... From Commentators, to CEO's, to Promoters, to Marketing... All require a specific skill set, based on successful experience in that particular field... UK Speedway keeps everything "n house", insular, and "that will do" as a measure of success...
    1 point
  40. To be fair I think BT Sport did start to up their game towards the end of the GP coverage first time round with Scott Nicholls doing analysis on the big screen and even bringing his bikes in to show starting techniques etc. And Natalie Quirk was the most knowledge presenter the sport has ever had. I don't think the TV coverage has ever recovered after the sudden sad death of Nigel Pearson. Another marmite character (aren't they all) but one of the few involved in Speedway, along with Tatum and Louis who were/are articulate enough to be on TV. Not only involved in Speedway he did carry some credibility within the industry and who knows may have been able to carry some sway. Tatum should never have been lead commentator but much like British Speedway there was nobody else ever given the chance after a Tony Millard was edged out at Sky.
    1 point
  41. Well that's him no good at wimbored road then,, can't race on a blue groove 🤪
    1 point
  42. Tatum and that stupid screwdriver. It's insulting the intelligence of the viewers... Clearly TNT didn't go to town with the coverage. It was pretty mediocre by British Eurosport's standards and, if anything, regressed on TNT, which is a more premium channel. The talent wasn't brought out and neither was the budget. Tatum is an awful lead commentator and often he was sole commentator. Yes he was thrust into the position after Nigel Pearson's death but he's a (former) professional sportsperson who understands its a results game. Speedway can be boring, we all know that, but the opportunities would have been there for interesting links and three minute features to really bring the sport to life. Not once can I remember seeing any little behind the scenes features: what does a rider do to prepare, follow them for a week, feature an engine tuner building a bike at the workshop... No money was invested in the production and the sport had to stand on its raw product which, frankly, is not good enough for modern tastes.
    1 point
  43. In the context of his statement, that would be extremely surprising. “….unfortunately it is time to step aside, but I leave the club and the sport with so many great memories that will last forever. Thank you.” That seems to make it clear that he is leaving the sport.
    1 point
  44. No it's not. It's like bubble and squeak. Chuck all the crap and leftovers together and fry them in a pan!
    1 point
  45. Loved it when Arena Essex came to Berwick a late night drink became an early morning drink haha great days
    1 point
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  47. I have a lot of respect for the late Tim Stone - he was definitely marmite to a lot of people, but he was always very nice, welcoming and respectful to us during my (short) time riding for the Mavericks. You always knew where you stood with him and he never minced his words. Plus the man lived and breathed Newport and it's such a shame things went the way they did there. I'll never forget we used to go down there every Sunday in the winter to practice, and planned to sleep in the van the night before, he offered us the option of putting our van in the pits (there was a lot of travellers in the area and often targeted Newport as a place to pitch up) and letting us sleep in a VIP box with heating - to which we gratiously accepted. He said "under no conditions are you to go outside before I get here in the morning though, the guard dog will have your pants down" - one night someone tried to break in and we found a pair of absolutely shredded jeans in the pits the morning after 😂😂😂
    1 point
  48. Not paying his electric bill? I remember one night at Kirky Lane v Coventry when Colin Pratt and several of his riders complained about the track being "too heavy' which ended up with a track inspection and work done on it, which seemed to be lasting forever. Pratt and a few of his riders were on bend one, pointing out various issues to the track team as they made changes, and whilst pointing this out, John Perrin emerged from the adjacent pits with a bucket full of shale, and presented it to Pratt.. When interviewed by the centre green presenter Perrin told him that he had told Pratt that he could take it back to Coventry with him to use on his track, given his track didnt ever have any shale on it... In an interview with the Speedway Star the week after, Pratt got asked what his response was... He said that he told Perrin that he would never tell him how many onions to put on the burgers that John sold from his many burger vans, so Perrin shouldn't tell him how to prepare a Speedway track...
    1 point
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