GeneralMelchett

Huge amounts of moaning on this thread - some of it seemingly moaning for moaning sakes - was it too hot and everyone just grumpy. The general precedent always used to be unless they have started the last lap then a re-run is *usually called. A bit like if they crash after the first bend *someone has to be be deeemd to be the cause of the stoppage and excluded -thse are long standing speedway rulings! As ever these are at the refs discretion. The crowd seemed very low - then again Ipswich always looked empty when the meeting is on TV - this is a shame as no evident atmosphere - the only times i went to KL was in 1990 and the place was packed out for a bank holiday may meeting and to British final semi final about the same time (maybe 89) again was packed out. There was some good racing King Lynn were in my view a bit unlucky to lose that one. Leicester took advantage to claim a decent away win. Please get rid of helmet cam and do get a producer and or camera man/women/person than understands speedway and the best angles to view a race from, most people would prefer a wider angled view that can show the action going on particularly if there is chance of passing.

He has a touch of the Batchelor about him this year in that one meeting he can be great and then the next his is disappointingly poor - I had hoped he had turned the corner with a decent score at Foxhall the other night but then at Sheffield he and Barker were definitely a weak pairing - in the end of season meeting last year he got 9+1 from 5 at Sheffield including 2 heat wins. His average has also dropped a point now to 6.27 (6.67 inc Bps) thats a point in about a month.

Of course they do yes - they had a stint in the DV before they demolished it -

Didn’t his old man post it was his hand? Or arm?

Ok interesting - be a shame really as from my memory the Rugby team no longer play there and it hasn’t hosted football for some time! Foxhall has been a better race track (particularly with Doyle about) since they made the adjustments a few years back

Spoken like a true fan !!!

What was the crowd reaction? Lots of 'traditionalist" not huge fans of the superheat yet when Ipswich won against peterborough last season it got a massive roar and everyone seemed right up for it.

It was a 3-3 so Hume got 1* instead of 2 - in the old days that was paid the same was it not? Regardless Danyon has on occasion this year baulked his own team mates who might have done a better job at overtaking the opposition. Wasn't at the meeting - people saying trap 2 was bobbins first five heats 0 points - always used to be gate 3 years back. I do think Owlerton would benefit (if possible) from some track widening - do they still use the pitch in the centre? I played football on there probably about 15 years go now maybe longer

He also had a hand in the hell on earth that is the M5

On a good day But yes shorter journey I was more referring to further on

Sheffield to Trimmingham 3 hrs 51 minutes

traffic dependent, I do love Norfolk as a destination butt he only times I have been there it takes me 4 hrs from Sheffield usually - going slightly further than Lynn to Trimingham / coast!

During lockdown I watched plenty of old speedway meetings - some were from the Save Oxford Speedway Channel many had the Nielsen era and the racing certainly wasn't that great, Nielsen often just cleared off into the distance. I also started ordering some meetings from classicspeedway that I remember being belters when I was there - mainly from the 80s and again on video they don't come across that great at all yet I remember them being hugely exciting at the time. I have always said Speedway is best live!

4 hrs to Lynn or 40 minutes to Sheffield - easy decision!

he had a great season was really impressed the times I saw him ride at Owlerton

Like you i would have been happy for him to have been back - I know a some don't like him but I feel he had overall a good season last year for the Witches

I think oscar wilde said it was careless! however last night Dan got 3 and Joe 0 for Birmingham at Oxford

Batch last year was a good example of this - mosty BPs for the Witches and almost the rest of the league I think

His bank manager might!

well I suppose but presume that is why they used without BPs it for team building or did! I have no idea what they use now as the average in the programme never seems to correspond to owt! They do use it in Poland

yes because if you score 3 from 3 rides thats 1pt per ride which if you use 4 as your base no of rides for calculating the average would mean its 4!

it is yes - I just go for the other one as thats how CMAs were calculated in the 80s when i started going. it was a simpler time!

yes this is why I have sometimes said look at whom riders are up against before criticising their scoring - poor old Danyon was having 6-7 rides a meeting of late often covering in races with Doyle or Emil the visiting no1 so unless he pulled a blinder out (which to be fair he did do a couple of times) the best he could hope for was 3rd place. Ideally the RS would only be riding against fellow reserves or 2nd strings and not GP riders.

you could well be right - by my reckoning Dan is the 3rd best RS out of the 7 currently riding so it is an improvement - and of course some were demanding change for changes sake so they have it! Its quite clear that neither Rowe (my preferred choice) or Kemp will be coming to Ipswich anytime soon so this is possibly about the best option right now.

thats his points per race - UK averages have always shown points per meeting - not sure which I prefer but its either 0.83 per race 3.33 per meeting or 4.17 if you include BP's - I always work in old money, as they say, so I would use 4.17 as his true average.