stevebrum

Sorry, have to disagree with you here. Ash doesn't all 2017 in the main body of the team, something Clegg has yet to achieve. He has been up into the main body but has failed to stay there. Clegg achieved an average of 4.15 , with a large chunk spent at reserve again for Edinburgh. Ash spent a whole season in the main body at Newcastle for an average of 4.88. On paper less than a point between them, in reality Ash earned his higher average from a more difficult position. Clegg has never been the same level as Ash IMHO.

Anybody that enters a sport as a professional would want to be the best they can be. If that sport has the potential to crown you a champion then there is nothing wrong in having that as the ultimate goal. Most will never get close, some will be good enough to even be considered worthy of a chance. Even fewer achieve that dream. What is wrong in that? As long as speedway has been speedway it has always been as much about the individual as it is about the team. Who wouldn't want to be considered the best team man in the sport? ? Many I'd imagine. And what a great thing to accomplish. There has always been riders that are more for themselves than have been for the team. This is not a sudden, unique or latter day trait. It's always been that way. Lambert choose to ride in Germany from age 14 because he wasn't allowed to do so in his country of berth. That shows me a rider who want to progress the right way and on his terms. Why not? ? The UK/BSPA didn't look after him at 14 why should he put them first now? I applaud the lad for progressing his OWN career the best way he can. If he proves to be a good team man along the way that I'm sure is a bonus for him. Ambition over riding in 2 leagues in Britain going nowhere fast???? Is really any one more right than the other??? Don't get me wrong I'm more about the team too, but I like riders with ambition who want to achieve more. And if they are British and/or Wolves riders even better. Let's just not kid ourselves that this is a new phenomenon.

One of the many aliases.

Wrong, as usual.

The troll never gets things right. It will be back to spread more lies no doubt.

Well said Najjer. Isn't too difficult a concept to understand is it?

Apologies, I thought he had dropped down. It's more other's over the years that have hyped him and I've never really seen anything to justify that hype. But you have a fair point that he SHOULD be more than capable of achieving that standard.

Didn't he ride some meetings at reserve this season and his average is still shocking? Probably one of the most overrated riders around.

Got to disagree with you on that one. He has shown on his form over here that he is a 4-5 point rider. Nothing more.

Of course they are false! ! If some riders who didn't ride here in 2017 are deemed to have 'outdated averages' then that simply can't apply to some others as then having true averages! Either ALL that didn't ride here in 2017 are outdated or none are. It's pretty simple I'd say! I can't believe anyone will actually argue that it's completely fair to grade some and not others. Well one I can understand will and already has. If you don't want clarity in the rules then fair enough. But bringing in ringers will continue and help to lose yet more fans from the sport. It's a joke to grade some and not others, it's as simple as that. And the rules allow it!! Beyond crazy.

They are, and every year they seem to suit some clubs and not others. Rules should be fair and transparent. So sadly every year some promoters will sign a ringer that will alienate a lot of speedway promoters. Wolves got a lot of flak signing a ringer 'Tai' in 2016 that a lot of people, and promoters no doubt, were unhappy about. Low and behold they have closed the door on that one by reassessing Tai and riders of a similar standard. Sadly the BSPA have yet again left the door wide open to allow ringers in on false averages given how much they have improved massively since last time they were here. It's like they never learn. Rules are there for everyone, sadly some benefit and others don't. Yet again the rulings stink and yet again teams will be accused of signing ringers that give the sport less and less credibility everytime. Any teams that sign a ringer will get flak, it could have been avoided.

No there not. They weren't in 2017 (with the multiplier ) and won't be in 2018 with some being reassessed and others not. Rules on averages seem to change every season, yet bizarrely they are allowing some riders who didn't ride here in 2017 to keep their existing averages yet regrade some at the same time. Bizarre in the extreme. The hopes of eliminating clubs being able to sign a 'ringer' sadly still exist. Just when you thought the governing body was going to make the rules fair for every team.

Seems Lambert is as cheesed off as Woffy with the governing body. If only the BSPA would look after its own both boys might still want to ride here plus they have done naff all to help their career. Lambert certainly is on the same mould as Woffy thank god, riders that want to better their career instead of staying safe in both British leagues and going nowhere fast.

Exactly. The riders hold all the power. Any rider will ride where they want.

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It only affects riders with a top flight average of 6 and over Skidder1.

Likewise, wouldn't wish ill health on anyone. Having gone thru a health trauma some years ago I know how tough things can be. Can only echo the get well messages of others too.

Unless he signs for Poole he will just be an asset of Poole, not a Poole rider.

Unless rules have changed you aren't allowed to reintroduce a rider that rode for you the previous season that didn't start the following year.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Cough cough Miedzinski. Riders will go where they want, on their own terms. Poole will have no leg to stand on if Holder wants to ride elsewhere.

I would have assumed Iversen would have been coming back. I hope he does for you guys.

Time will tell. In a weakened league with only a couple of top boys racing he could even improve his average. If he can maintain an 8 point average he will have done well IMHO. We've seen riders being written off before a wheel has turned before and they've shown posters up. Who knows, KK might even ride to a world class standard in 2018. Anything is possible.

I'd still say Thorssell will end up with a higher average of the 2 anyway so yes I know who I would prefer.

I doubt it. If Wolves can't afford him Id struggle to see any other team being able to. Unless your Leicester it seems!

There are riders individually we like and defend and riders that we don't rate or dislike and comment accordingly. He gets way less stick than Tai yet plenty see it as OK to berate him! Like I say we all have our opinions. Comparing a rider still improving and making his way in the sport to a supposed world class rider. Great comparison.