stevebrum

It's never happened before that GP riders missing a year out get reassessed. Getting it yet? It should be a straight forward rule but it isn't. Just WHO qualifies as a GP rider? 2018?? 2017?? Before?? As per usual the rules are ambiguous. Certainly the impression I got from CVS was that all riders missing this year would be reassessed. If you were there you may have or have not come to same conclusion. He mentioned the averages for team building were yet to be agreed due to returning riders for 2018. You clearly don't get it, your Poole blindness is masking the bigger picture. If you are going to reassess some riders then reassess them all or none at all!! Everyone wants a fair and transparent rule which the way you suggest isn't. I couldn't care less who it affects or doesn't affect. The BSPA have made a rule that penalises some riders and clubs and not others. So of course it isn't a fair rule, which is evident to everyone.

Can you provide me the link that confirms non 2017 riders won't be reassessed? There is a reason why team building averages haven't been released yet. There is no link to 2018 team building averages for a reason. You may be right, but you don't have a link that confirms those averages. Because someone has their blue tints on. You can be sure Shov would be disagreeing if any other club was signing Milik or Lebedevs on their old average.

Likewise, where did you see the rule that it's only GP riders being reassessed? In your head? The GP assessed 9 point rule came from my report from the Wolves talk in by CVS, it's since then that it's appeared in the public domain. It was mentioned that riders not riding here in 2017 will be reassessed. Just post the link that proves your right. Mine was from a talk in witnessed by a hundred odd people, yours? You have it in your head that it won't apply to ALL riders. I've asked you 3 times to provide a link. I've already made mine clear. Link?

Hopefully common sense will prevail that ALL riders not riding here in 2017 will be reassessed. The fact that they aren't listed yet seems to indicate they are yet to decide.

Sadly a Poole fan will only see the wrong in this if a rival team signed a ringer. Just when you thought the "riders not riding here in 2017 will be reassessed" was a fair and transparent one.

If you have a link that proves this please? Nothing published or released by the BSPA. It's absolutely the wrong thing to do to reassess some but not others. The BSPA will have made a huge mistake if they are allowing this. I'm surprised you are in favour of this? hopefully Poole will sign Lebedevs, Milik and Woryna to prove what a joke that will make the rules.

As is usual the fans are left in the dark. That's what's to worry about.No wonder people are getting sick of this cloak and dagger approach. We all want fairness and transparency from the rules. Why haven't the BSPA released the team building averages so the fans can see them too?? Doesn't make sense at all unless there is some skulduggery going on behind the scenes.

That hasn't been made clear yet. I hope it isn't that tho. No one wants ringers in their teams, not even Poole fans. Knowing the BSPA anything is possible sadly. Hopefully commonsense will prevail.

Depends which rules we are talking about. If it's to do with averages I hope any returnees not here in 2017 are reassessed As they should be for whoever they sign for.We hardly know any rules yet.

It's not been released yet.

the thread was closed because of that last week. Some people never learn. Exactly. CVS has the right idea. Buying assets is a waste of time because riders will ride where they want to anyway.

Back in the real world nobody is right or wrong. More seem to be in favour of the 3 improving than not so best leave it there.

Which it was so really unsure now!

I thought riding NL counted but I'm not convinced it does now unless he has dual heritage?

Nothing has been confirmed officially by the BSPA and averages for the new season and team building have not been released. Pure speculation still.

More than happy to prove you wrong.

That's your opinion, I just happen to believe you are wrong. You need to read my posts a bit wider if you think I'm defensive about Wolves. As a fan of the club I have a right to agree or disagree with an opinion. I've also noticed from a previous thread you are very impatient when asking a question. I guess we are all different. And that's the beauty of this forum. (Trolls exempt naturally)

got to admit it's an uninspiring signing. no one knows what Milik average would be, they haven't released assessed averages for those who didn't ride here in 2017. No way should riders like Milik, Woryna and Lebedevs stay on their false averages. If riders like Woffy and Kildemand are given a 9 then there has to also be a realistic average also for the other riders. anybody rubbing their hands with joy at the thought of signing riders on an outdated average are as good as condoning cheating. BSPA need to sort this ASAP. They aren't, they are guessing. No figures have been released yet.

Masters was over 8 before his injury so improvement there. Howarth had a break thru year this year so still improvement to be made. In a 1 rider over 8 league Rory should easily add to that average. 100% improvement in all 3. who's the 4th??? 3 signed. In fairness your tales usually are incredibly weak.

brilliant news for the Robins. 2 bright British lads with big improvement in both ahead. That's assuming they haven't altered that rule but then again anything is possible.

Great news. Welcome back Rory.

Of course he did. They announced it before the AGM. Vaculik was never going to Poole in 2018.

I reckon we will see on mass cheating as the top boys have engine failures and tape breaks and mysterious dips in form as riders try get under 8. I won't be surprised.

That's why it isn't fair. You can't regrade some and not others. Complete farce and totally unfair. Any team that signs a rider who didn't ride here in 2017 are getting a ringer. And deserve all the ill feeling that comes with it. Thanks again to the complete incompetence of the BSPA.

do you mean me saying that I agree Tai and other riders should be reassessed for fairness and clarity?? you can't change the rules mid season but you can make the rules 'fair for all' to start a new season. It's interesting that you interpret it as bias towards my own club, which it's clear it isn't. Woffy has as valid an average of any rider. The year that Tai and all the other top boys got low averages was due to the race format. Making their averages falsely low. I can see it's only fair that riders who didn't ride here in 2017 (under the regular race format) have an outdated average so I think it's fair to give them a 'new' realistic average. It's just whether 9 is a 'fair' assessment. Of course I agree that any rider who didn't ride here in 2017 therefore has an outdated average. Reassess one, reassess all who weren't here in 2017. It's just the assessment of the new average that needs clarity.