stevebrum

I'm not suggesting that at all. Rules are there for a reason. The point I was trying to make we should be doing MORE to help British riders and that includes a right to earn a living from their country of birth!

Signed obviously. Why the need for a 2nd petition tho? What happened to the first one?

Hopefully Leicester will look after him after his parent club kicked him to the kerb. (Stands back before the blue tints blow )

Well said, there is no way we should hinder BRITISH riders from earning a living. Common sense that should have been dealt with at the time.

Poole should top 55.

PK as a h/l wouldn't be good tho.

No worries. SKY just seem to keep the FTR at 6 or 7 regardless. Don't know how difficult it is to put EDR at number 3 for Howarth and just leave Masters with his average in reserve. You would think it was simple enough!

Don't think it's belittling Newman, far from it. It's just pointing out, quite correctly, that Newman has a lower average in the PL so may argue that is a truer reflection of ability. I judge riders what they do in the EL not in the PL (or Poland, Denmark etc!) As that gives a realistic reflection on their abilities in this league. Newman I'd pick over all the reserves from a scoring ability perspective. In saying that I like and rate Garrity too.

have tried to put some logic on heat 12. The only logic I can see is that Masters suffered problems directly as the race was stopped and had clashed in the run in to the 1st bend. Did the clash cause the puncture or was it just a coincidence? If there was any doubt that any incident caused the puncture then a time should have been allowed for Masters instead of putting the 2's on straight away. Maybe Durno realised his mistake at the end of the 2 minutes? that said 2 mins came on and he wasn't ready within that time slot. don't let Pinny hear you saying that, he is past his best don't you know! However back in the real world Fred appears to be having a resurgent year and long may this continue. A true class act. He isn't an EL draft rider. EL draft riders now get EL averages and can move into the 1-5, although only one of them can move up at any one time. Howarth has moved up to 3, Masters at reserve. Poole - Ellis moved to 3, Kurtz to reserve, Swindon - Wright moved up, Tungate reserve, Leicester - Auty up, Klindt down. Averages change every 2 weeks to avoid the draft riders struggling in the main body.

averages from 2014 I fail to get this obsession with who is better, Newman or Garrity (last season) or Newman or Worrall (this season). If we are talking only EL performances/averages I'd say Newman shades it both seasons although as SCB pointed out there really isn't a huge difference in it. At PL level obviously then both are quite a bit better than Newman. The only farce has been working out the grade numbers for these riders. Hopefully this season's EL averages alone will affect next seasons grades. Or failing that take their EL averages and times it by their PL converted average to give a much truer . Plus any calculation of averages should omit any of their reserve rides. The true reflection of their abilities should only include their rides against better riders.

Agreed, that would be my worry.

While we are performing well we can carry him a little, particularly if he might drop to reserve. He seems to have gone backwards each season so we need to see an improvement soon or I can see changes on the card. I'm sure PK is dusting off his goggles as we speak in case he gets a call.

Anybody would be crazy to not believe fast Freddie isn't capable of stepping back up again as class just doesn't disappear. Well unless your name is Pinny of course. A point you have argued 3 times and already dismissed as nonsense. A rider that's riding quick and committed , doing well in a GP round and averaging over 9 in a tough race format isn't past his best. More to come quite clearly. Point dismissed 3 times as nonsense which on his performances this season prove my point. Troll off.

It's a weak league I agree yet very few top riders have excelled since the new race format came out so I'd say it's a tougher race format for them personally. Point in question woffy was on fire everywhere in 2014....... just not the EL.

Why mention him not being in the GP's as some sort of defence then argue he isn't back to form when anyone with a pair of eyes can see he us flying this year?? Totally predictable no argument post, troll for troll sakes.

Already argued and point proven correct. Unless my eyes deceive me he rode the 1st GP this season and already named in 2nd GP. Dear oh dear. Looks like your posts are getting worse one after the other.

Predictable response, no doubt you will still be saying that if he qualifies for the GP's again. Freddie is on 9.12 so far for this season alone (higher if we include tonight's match). Out of those 5 matches he has had which are the crap ones??? 4 double figures and a paid 9. Your point I think well and truly stunk out. Anyway back in the real world Freddie is on fire this year. Class remains.

Luck in heat 12 yes.

100% correct call.

Why? Harris run into Freddie's dirt deflector. He was out of control before he went down. Typical Harris dive.

The big moaners have nothing to say of course

Ash is already our 2nd tier 2 rider so I'd imagine yes. PK finished on 5.51 last season. Bech is 6.48. So yes !!

It is, however Howarth has been superb too. Bech has been the weak link. Just goes to show how the averages have been totally messed up. What a farce was that race? Why would the ref turn off the 2 minutes?? What a heat 14 - where are the Lindgren is past it brigade? ?? Strangely quiet. :rofl:

Aces by 10.

Sure she was my primary school teacher.