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That rumour has been going around for a while irregardless of Leicester. Personally I don't see him being part of the last 2 riders we are meant to be 'gobsmacked' by. I expect Jacob to be back as that was hinted at so I doubt Masters would gobsmack anyone. Personally speaking I'd be happy with masters over Jacob, so long as there are no PL fixture clashes.

Not seen a statement confirming from bees, other than the one I quoted with riders seemingly in average order. Not that that confirms it it really can't be anything else.

Some riders have been declared as heat leaders, assuming the promotions know what they are doing! As far as bees go if you check the team from the statement below I believe it's in average order. For king not to be a heat leader one of Garrity or Woryna will have to be. http://www.coventrybees.co/news.php?extend.3404

The fault is that Buzz SHOULD meet the criteria and the only odd thing is that he isn't classed as a heat leader. Last time Lindback rode here he averaged less than 5, would the promoters not class him as a HL too? The fault lies with the promoters not Poole.

What is clear is that CVS, MF, etc couldn't care less about the fans knowing who is in the list.

Only the promotions know the list, however CVS has already confirmed that there are 18 from this season on it. He should know.

8th I hope ;-))

Sorry, no it wasn't. CVS confirmed 18 names from this season are on it and not all teams will have 3.

No Deal has been done. PK isn't even in Wolves teams plans right now and will probably skip Britain. PK, like Buzz should be on any heat leader list. End of.

Think the dispute is whether Buzz was assessed as a heat leader or not by the promoters.if he isn't then they have lost the plot. It's not an anti Poole post Skidder1, if they have ALL made the decision (CVS stated they all virtually agreed on who should go on the list) then something is really wrong. It's the averages they start on that will determine what race position they are in so I doubt think Poole have pulled any stunt. It's an odd thing if Buzz hasn't been added to the HL list. All that said IF he starts the season in a heat leader position is there really a problem?

If he is in the top 3 of the averages he will be in a heat leader role anyway.

Cov reserves on paper are weak, that's true. However Bates progressed this season both EL and PL so more to come IMHO. He would have been back with Wolves if their wasn't fixture clashes, CVS confirmed that. Sarjeant at times was as good an any other reserve but he will have a lot more responsibility next season. With younger riders the potential for massive improvement or flopping is huge.

certainly is confusing. He was either signed off the heat leader list or he wasn't . And if he wasn't on it then it's totally absurd. starting as a heat leader Only goes by average .If he is in the top 3 averages for Poole then he will start as a heat leader. Without this HL list no one knows! With regards Chris, I'm sure it's a formality. He is already listed as one of the GP boys riding in the EL in this week's speedway star. FB, they did. The link is still there that confirms it. Hans is on the heat leader list and if he is 4th in the starting averages then will start season as second string.

I agree with your assessment on THJ, however if he wanted to ride here next season he should be on the HL list, no question.

agree it does seem odd and makes a mockery of the previous announcement put out by Poole saying he was being signed as HL. more common sense that Hans is on the list as he should be whilst someone like Peter Karlsson has, like Buzz, been wrongly assessed as second string. Partially true. Riders not ridden EL in 2015 or others wanting to join the league as heat leader automatically get added to the HL list. If Shamek is 6.5 or over then he will be a heat leader and rightly so. The HL list dictates only who can be signed from it, averages will dictate what riding positions they race in, which to me makes more of a mockery than the list itself!

Obviously not Wolves, or Lakeside (AJ announced before AGM ) so maybe 6 at most? Male logic tho.

Why not? You need to remember we are talking of discussions at the AGM, well before KK was signed, zagar plus Doyle wasn't announced at Swindon. In truth it can be any of the teams that hadn't made announcements of top riders prior to the AGM. Maybe you misunderstood me.

If he did what an ill thought thing to say!

Wells to me was always 50/50 re making the list. PK to me is a clear heat leader! I thought someone asked the question about the future with Cradley crowds solid and wolves crowds down?To be honest the question of crowds down = losing money maybe subjective due to reduced costs the past 2 seasons. It might have been better to ask that if they feel wolves crowds are holding or are down and for what reasons do they suggest. It's abundantly clear from standing on the terraces that crowd levels are down and decreased towards the end of the season.

Wells presumably is on the list as second string along with PK. Both part of the back up plan. I'd assumed Wells couldn't double up due the limit on years doubling up which CVS said was set in stone, but would be be broken when there aren't enough riders to go round. More stumbling along as you go it seems at the top table!

Possibly, let's wait and see.

CVS says we will be 'gobsmacked' when the last 2 places are announced. Maybe let's wait and see if that's the case before we make any decisions. Maybe we are signing Dudek or Vaculik on a 4 point average. I'd be gobsmacked if that happened!

As nothing has been announced its assumed Edinburgh.

Absolutely, huge self interest. The answer given was that the shared role might make the mystery rider want to also only do part a season and force the promotion to look elsewhere for another number one. What, like every other team you mean? !!!!! Short sighted and self interest seems the case and minority wins by the sounds of it.