Bagpuss

I'm not judging any set of fans in particular, I'm pretty sure that every track has an element of its support who can mouth off and come out with unnecessary stuff. I'm all for banter but sometimes it can go OTT, I've experienced it over the years when we've ridden against Ipswich, P'boro, Mildenhall and Rye in particular and its been Lynn fans just as often as opposition supporters who have been out of order.

I wasn't, it was a general point really. I've seen enough unacceptable behaviour over the twenty five odd years I've been going to speedway to know what some speedway fans can be like, and there is no excuse for it.

Grown adults who act like hooligans when they go to speedway need to grow up, whatever team they support.

A reprieve for the Brits! EDIT they're underway again, fingers out lads!

Unusual choice of headgear for the chap in picture 10 Great photos

Nail on head.

I accept that Lee, Louis & Jolly represent an excellent bank of experience and knowledge from which youngsters can learn, but I just question public carpeting of young riders after a bad performance. I don't recall reading about any showboating at Belle Vue, and I thought it was a bit of an over reaction by Lee after a defeat to a very good side. Scunthorpe and Rye house both have good records of producing good young riders and I can't remember Rob Godfrey or Len Silver going bananas when they lose an away match, although as I said its a bit different for a stand alone club I suspect. I agree to an extent about the comfort zone.....I think one of the reasons that young Aussies do so well when they come over is that they have to perform well to arguably afford to ride and feed themselves; they are a determined bunch, thousands of miles from home and more often than not succeed. Over the last few years the British GP riders have tended to get 'free passes' into the GP's for example and thats not a good thing; the latest example of this kind of treatment is Josh Auty (our best young rider at present) getting a wild card into the British final despite failing to get through his semi. As with most issues I just think the situation needs a bit of balance.....I wouldn't expect the manager of a stand alone team to roll over and accept a hiding but neither do I think that public rollickings do young riders any good. If words have to be said then do it in private and make sure you're not knocking a young lad's confidence in so doing.

It seems to be the way that Michael Lee wants to run the team at Mildenhall, just shows the difference between a stand alone NL team and the junior side of a PL/EL club I guess. He gave all bar two of the Fen Tigers a public roasting after their defeat at Belle Vue despite the Colts being one of the stronger sides in the NL and most of Mildenhall's riders not being familiar with Kirky Lane. I can understand the need for a competitive team at West Row to keep the punters coming through the gate but it doesn't sound like the best environment for promising youngsters like Jacobs and Blackbird to be learning in when they are likely to get a public dressing down if they don't perform. It seems to fly in the face of what Kevin Jolly wanted to bring to Mildenhall when interviewed in the Speedway Stars shortly after taking the club on.

We've been to a wedding all day today and so put the GP on Sky plus but I don't think we'll even bother watching it back in the morning having read this thread. Prague is crap but world championship speedway in general is pretty poor nowadays, it promises so much but delivers so little and I only really attend Cardiff for the social aspect of the weekend. Its time somebody grabbed track preparation for the series by the scruff of the neck and turned the whole thing into an exciting product again.

Unfortunately I just think that the majority of people prefer a higher standard of speedway, no doubt our EL crowds have so far been up on last years PL attendances which in turn were higher than CL/PL crowds have probably ever been at Lynn. I guess it's the same with football if you look through the Premiership and Football League attendances on a Saturday. Personally watching the Young Stars doesn't get my juices flowing like watching the 'big boys' does but I always enjoy watching the NL lad's endeavour and will get along to watch them whenever I can.

Well done to the Young Stars. Its a bit of a mystery why crowds haven't picked up this year with meetings on Wednesday evenings now.....personally I didn't go last night as I was at Mildenhall on Sunday and will be at Lakeside on Saturday and the speedway budget wouldn't stretch to three meetings in a week. Maybe others are doing the same, perhaps the weather put them off, who knows. On a more positive note I hear that Robert Lambert went round during the second half in 64 seconds on a 250cc machine. Get him as signed up as you can Buster!

Why

Probably not the best meeting Fen Tigers' fans will see this season but a thoroughly deserved victory for their team. Mainly from the gate apart from a couple of passes by Birks and a great effort by Hargreaves in heat 13 and unfortunately the Young Stars were dreadful in this department, time and time again they were lengths down going into the first turn. Very impressed with Lewis Blackbird, he looks the real deal.

Quite a lot of dirt down and it was well watered. The track has settled down well after several falls in the first five races, everybody fit and well though.

The track is interesting to say the least!

Hughes now banned for 28 days at all levels according to Stars Facebook page, would quite like to know who the guest is before we set off at 3pm.

I'm not particularly fussed how Bjerre does on the GP circuit to be honest but he had two big shoves from Freddie tonight (no problem with that, its a GP after all) although he asked for the second one by leaving such a big gap on the last bend and you can see why the ref let the result stand. More worryingly are the engine failures, he has far too many (as does Lasse for that matter) and needs to get that sorted pronto from a Lynn Stars perspective. Can't add much more that others haven't already about the meeting to be honest, seems a bit daft starting when there was little chance of completing the 23 heats.

I've no idea Phil, just thought they were of a similar standard and with Evans being local and a track specialist he'd be the ideal choice. If Darren is the lowest averaged number one then it'll be interesting to see who Dale can come up with, needs to be somebody good to compete with Brundle & Hargreaves in the key heats.

Barrie Evans would be a good choice I reckon. Does R/R work the same in the NL as it does in the two senior leagues or can anyone have a ride?

Of course that should be the 15th

Looking forward to my first visit to West Row since 2008. Any news on the Young Stars' guest?

Definitley getting better as the night wears on. Nice to see Freddie finally getting to grips with the GP's such a stylish rider in full flight.

One would imagine that the track would have been heavier and wetter for the first meeting which would have contributed to the PL lads struggling to get the outside line working properly. I don't believe the new silencers are a hinderence in the dirt from what I've seen this year, apart from the noise things seem very similar to me. Regarding people leaving straight after the Scorpions meeting, perhaps an earlier start time would have encouraged more to stay, people will have wanted to get home for work and school today and maybe starting at 3pm would have done the trick. Good effort from the Young Stars, I'm looking forward to the next time I get the opportunity to watch them which may well be Mildenhall away on the 15th

Fair enough, I stand corrected. Still doesn't make it the most scientific way of measuring speed though.

Thats a decent point for the Young Stars against very strong and more experienced opposition. Good to see Oliver Rayson in the points