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When it comes to a member of our great Parliament doing anything. There is always a 'fee'

The BSPA probably can't afford the 'fees'

Len Silver's press release said it all. "We thought it was a rubber stamp exercise" applying for a legal document such as a visa should never be taken for granted.

It was just that some were saying they wouldn't go because of the strung out races so just an idea to put the reserves up against themselves and the 2nd strings and Heatleaders race each other as EL but thanks PP & TR for your thoughts on the subject.

If people are worried about competitiveness of the racing why not follow the same line as the EL is this season and follow their race format whichever that maybe but rather than keep 6&7 at reserve all season who ever rides at reserve follows that format. It could encourage a few more risks with newbies :-)

Welcome to the world of the Speedway closed season

That should cheer Waco up. That could be at least another 5 pages of discussion :-)

Good point if you want competitive amateur racing you have to go to Scunny. I don't know of any other track who puts on Amateur meetings in the winter, Newport used to put on a winter series. So invariably riders will come through Scunny.

I know you and your family are passionate about Scunny and yes Scunny do a lot for riders but the fact remains that put yourself in the place of the Heathens with no track and if not for track share no team. I'm sure the Heathens supporters would love to have such a set up but at the moment they share a track with an EL team and dogs. One day they may have a similar place to Scunny but until then they have to put up with what they have and I think they do well. They have a procession of guests from the local authorities to give them a feel for the need for the sport, in the area. They wouldn't be able to do that with a team that sank to the bottom of the table every season with mainly the volunteers and riders families standing on the terraces as support. I have a sneaky suspicion that the Heathens fans don't do losing so the management need to provide a winning team to support their argument and retain their support. Scunny have that it's the Scorpions

Some people even think it has an exchange rate.

It has always been the case between the stand alones and 2nd teams. The 2nd teams are running a competitive 1st team. I have seen the support at Scunny for NL I have also seen the support that leave before the 2nd meeting during double headers. The only way round it would be to stop stand alone clubs entering the NL.

I'm not a Cradley supporter. Just giving a view of why a rider may have their head turned. I'm sure the money is good and for what it's worth I think Williamson has been ill advised. If Cradley supporters are happy for the constant thrashings at home then should they be deprived? the rest of the league can aim for 2nd place and have a lot more fun doing it.

Don't have places? Too good to be on the reserve draft? Did I say there was anything wrong with being too good for the NL? No I don't believe I did. I was alluding to their earning potential in PL only. Which at the mo is all thty have unless they have European commitments. Oh we are going to have such fun this season

The draft is a double edged sword. How are these lads supposed to earn when they are too good for NL and now it seems too good for the EL.

I'd say it's not just about the money at Cradley it's also about the staggering support home and away. who wouldn't want to win away in front if a big away crowd and the potential for sponsorship is there to. Who wouldn't want to ride under those terms? At the end of the day the promotion meeting supporters needs and a bit more points money is a bonus and let's face it banter or not all promoters look forward to Cradley rolling into town. I've never been to Mildenhall v Dudley meeting but I imagine the roof is raised by some feet at those fixtures :-)

I have to say on this news I am surprised Williamson Phillips and Shuttleworth have signed for other clubs as Scunny regulars but maybe they mean even more 'rookie' than them. It will be interesting to see the team build.

I think if you read the press release it wont be, for now. Lets hope riders stick with it and don't dissppear down the money route, like previous seasons. The 15 and 16 year olds seem to have a problem sticking with scunny, as opposed to the older Moto X converts, and their idea of a 2 year plan. Probably with a nod from Poole it may give them that incentive. Lets hope the venture works. How do you know he didn't?

Kyle Howarth used to be awesome round BV when more experienced riders struggled but I haven't seen him recently .... I'm surprised BV hasn't been mentioned.

It's a risk you take. The pendulum swings both ways best of luck to the lad. I'm sure Buxton will survive without him

It was just a suggestion. A bit of fun for the closed season :-)

Maybe the team management should involve the supporters and open a web vote

They do seem to be in a bit of a stalemate with the chairman on 1 side and the shareholders on the other. It does make you wonder what the next meeting needs to bring to the table to break it :-(

I doubt it. They will all have different rules for current & ex colonies/protectorates etc...They will also have different skill shortages. I doubt a UK visa would give them rights to work in the other countries or vice verse with exception of countries in the Schengen agreement, of which the UK is not.

What? laps?

Don't all teams get new race jackets every year as more often than not they are auctioned or sponsored etc....