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Mr Sensible seems to think that it is time to stop asking supporters for contributions and make the promoters shoulder the burden (The IOW doesn't have a promoter btw). The point I am making is that when the club folds and the committee walk away the IOW supporters will then set to trying to get it back which will cost them just as much if not more. Gustix and Tsunami have obviously been in that position by the sounds of it you haven't. Hence you not seeing the point. Get the AF in place could be a start but it's clearly not the solution.

Oh it will cost them a damn sight more if the club folds and then they set to trying to revive it. Ask anyone of the difunct clubs trying to get back. It's a crying shame that the track is there going nowhere just cash flow is the obstacle. Quite different from tracks which have been sold for development. For those saying they aren't getting anything for their efforts they just may get a season of Speedway if the effort isn't made they won't I would say that's plenty.

I suspect tha JTS argument is about Adams earning potential as much as anything else. His earning potential in the national league is quite high even on £10 a point which I doubt he is on and I quite agree he should be given the opportunity to earn as much as he can during the season.

This league is about a conveyer belt of new talent the conveyer belt needs to keep moving I can see both sides you don't want new talent getting fed up waiting for places but then by the same token you need to as we say in my trade 'underpin knowledge' because you can't beat experience

Well RH were talking about 5 rookies so I can't see that being an issue and i'd say Scunny would have been the same maybe not enough rookies Doesn't sound like it. Nothing in the press release and that would be quite a change.

What could have happened to RH and Scunny? Oh well maybe they will re think

Has there been any white smoke seen yet?

Reade has ridden for Stoke for the last 3 seasons (including the colts season) improving year on year but last year was blighted by injury. Hopefully the BV track will suit him. Nielsen is the Marmite kid you love him or hate him but 1 thing is for sure you will be sat on the edge of your seat when he is at the tapes as with Garrity. :-) Enjoy your season.

I believe it's on the 10th Dec......What do you mean what is it?

I maybe wrong, I probably am wrong but I thought i'd read that if they had held an average of over 5 they couldn't DU and he went over that with Sheffield.

No I mean Simon. He has had a PL av of over 5 so he can't double up I believe hence the problems with Stoke & RH in 2012.

I'd say there is going to be a rule change at the AGM as Rambo has been announced in PL and EL and he has posted he is awaiting 'conformation' on a NL place.

Thanks for your reply. Lets hope it's taken on board

It could be a great little club. I myself think the stadium is grea, maybe a little tired but a lick of paint could soon sort that out. Although access to any facilities is quite a treck form the backstraight now that the pit lane has been closed off. Why would the promoter not allow the supporters take pride in their club and help re energise it. What has happened in the past to create such a gulf between the promoter and the supporters? Genuine question.

I may not know much about speedway but I do know about currency conversion. The Zloty is pretty worthless. A Zloty is worth 20p that makes it 40 PLZ to my calculations, at today's market. £8.00 to you and I versus 40 PLZ to the average Polish wage. That argument holds not weight.

I agree I have 1 that does(boy 23) 1 who will come if pressured(boy 26) and 1 that flatly refuses(girl 20).

But they already go. So no need to attract them!!!!! That's the problem constantly looking back. Tony would be doing cartwheels if there were more people on the terraces paying top riders wage. The problem is there are too many 'mature' fans who reject any ideas to drag the sport kicking and screamimg into the 21st century and they just want to reminisce all the time but...... the 'good old days' don't pay modern wages i'm affraid. I'm constantly being accused of not being a 'true' supporter or don't know what i'm talking about. All because I've only watched the sport since 2008 and know the square route of bugger all about 'the past'

Today's world is all about image and glamour. Speedway needs to be glamorous. Getting Tai and his girlfriend in Hello. thats more today's marketing must Serious suggestion btw

Some of the suggestions although sound silly may not be far off the mark of the modern day spectacle which youngsters identify with but I would certainly start the parade early and involve the kids in the parade. One thing that speedway has over football is accessibility to the competitors

So what would you do? if you had a free range of the rule book.

There will be a rule change at the NL AGM surely, there has to be. Many lads may not want to ride in NL instead,concentrating on PL and EL so those that don't appear on the 'list' for whatever reason can ride in the NL as clubs like Dudley and Mildenhall will still want to keep their teams competitive :-)

'Sponsorship' is very difficult to police unfortunately.

Wasn't the whole point of the exercise for the lads to gain experience rather than a money?. I'm sure some will have that enhanced by 'sponsorship'.

I know 1 rider who is running good reliable Jawa's to keep costs low as servicing is cheaper and he keeps getting laughed at in the pits. and told if he doesn't switch to GM he will never get anywhere So you need to keep up with the Jones' I'm afraid in this sport.

QUOTE Elite League: 10 teams: Belle Vue, Birmingham, Coventry, Eastbourne, King’s Lynn, Lakeside, Leicester, Poole, Swindon, Wolverhampton. Points limit 32 (top five riders); National League riders at No.6 and No.7 Teams meet each other twice home and away - minimum 18 home fixtures, 36 in league programme. Play-offs as before (for top four teams). Do we know what constitutes a NL rider yet? or is that still being drawn up