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The right or wrongs aside as it's only rumour but don't you think it's sad, if it is the case, that a promoter feels he has to hold wages back to get the riders to a party designed to promote the club, thank the fans for their support and allow the fans to mingle with the lads they have supported over the season?. Last year Scott Richardson had already announced his retirement and stil turned up to the Colts party to thank all concerned for a fab season.

It just seems every thread you go on on this forum people are shooting from the hip at promoters. I wouldn't blame them all to just jack it in.and say 'up yours' I certainly wouldn't have the where with all to do it and tend to respect anyone who does.

I don't know what 'evey thing' is but if I did I would probably have an opnion on it.

It was actually a genuine question. I don't spend hours reading up on stuff that don't affect me like Plymouth Spedway (200 miles away from me)I do have a life.!!!!!!

Can I ask what the Plymouth promoter has actually done to alienate so many fans??? I'm not aware i'm affraid

Not sure the ethical argument stands up here. In my line of work I am bound by P&P's with regards to discussing work on FB shouldn't professional' sportsmen/women be boundby the same?

Oh ok sorry !!!! I missed the No.8 rule or agreement. I supose the lads that would go on it are probably already on a team's radar and therefore said team maybe reluctant to put them on it as they could maybe guest for someone else and be 'spotted'. eg Ellis, Coles.

Because he has ridden for the Vikings until he broke his arm Maybe you should read my post again !!!!!!!!!!! There is no such thing as a Speedi bee

Lewis Rose also guested for Buxton at RH as KLYS declared No8. I don't think you get an assessed ave in the NL now that the Commonwealth patriality thing has been thrown out as they used to get 6 didn't they ??? A bit unfair on No.8's really if they don't get any rides with 'their' team and they can't guest for others either. The 2 seasons ago Richie Worrall was guesting all over the place and it paid off.

Fenwick has always been Scunthorpes no. 8 with Hart as Scunthorpes declared No.1 and therefore eligible to guest as he isn't in a declared 1- 7 as is Ellis No.8 for IOW he will be a good signing for the IOW next year on a 3 pt average. No8 = unattached. I'm genuinely pleased for the IOW if Ellis signs for them next year it's about time they had a bit of luck!!!!!!

Well we can't have 7 number one's. He did a job for Lakeside. I'd rather see him than 'baby' in the team. If it's true i'll be sad to see him go

Couldn't disgree more.......... sorry Some people said that about Richie when he joined Newcastle. Teams need to start taking the bull by the horns and take chances. The Saints did this year and it's paid off.

I imagine Connor Dwyer will be well in the frame !!!!!!

Because a rider can be absent for any reason due to school commitments/ Parent work commitments without fear of repremande from the powers that be for the team or the rider. It is believed this can lead to teams dropping an underperforming rider and replacing them for a better/more expensive same average rider for key matches. although I don't know if there is any kind of precedent that lead to this rule being introduced as I can't see any current teams doing this, Injuries has proved a problem in the past particularly for PO matches. If teams could regulate themselves to play by the rules but I supose the will to win is possibly too tempting particularly for the stand alone clubs. It would also give other NL riders opportunities to guest when the league is limited. The guest reserve rule has just been tightened up and rightly so, lads need to get on the merry go round somehow, to only a 3.00 point reserve who doesn't have a regular NL place, so I can't see that happening anytime soon

I supose that would depend on how many teams are in the EL and how many in the NL leagues.I would say a NL team would be a compliment to the current set up rather than an aswell thus avoiding making people choose. The idea would be for people to go to both but on turn out from the challenge matches which have been staged at NL standard it could be a viable option.

You can't blame Louis for trying. If that is the case then the integrity of the Ref should be brought into question. They should have the power of their own conviction to apply the rules and hold their nerve. Shouldn't hold a Ref's licence i'd say.

It has to be said on reflection, but for the aid of a replay the Ref probably would have gone for Nielson from his vantage point. It just goes to show the fortunes can soon turn with the flick of a play button

I originally thought on the first view that Roynon had hit a rut but no he looks back sees Nielson and clouts him. Thats the simple truth but only Adam knows what happened I would say.

Agree Gemini!!!!!!!....................Again

Sus? Out of order I would say, from the vantage point of the video which of course the Ref wouldn't have had the benefit of until the replay. I am no fan of Stefan Nielson mainly because of his hystrionics on track when he falls off. He is a good rider and probably is the next Nicki Pederson, who I am a fan of, in character but Roynon new exactly what he was doing I suppose he just hoped to kill Stefans momentum as at some point Nielson was going to get passed Morris who seem to be struggling for speed as Roynon was clearly trying to stay with him. It was a ht where all was to play for all or nothing so I think the outcome was fair in the end. Thats not to say that if Perry had been fit we would probably congratulating Dudley now Oh and Team Managers shouldn't go near the Ref till a decision is made and then appeal!!!!!! A Neutral

I think this cheering when riders come off has been blown out of all proportion. I myself have felt a little boosted when an opposition rider has fallen at Leicester not because he has fallen it is almost an automatic reaction but clearly not if serious injury is suspected and immediatley apparent but because the Lions will be handed a point, and as we know points mean prizes and the point could be a crucial one, For the same reason It is inneviatble that the fallen rider's fans will feel agreaved specially if the rider is in the lead or second. I wouldn't make too much of it I think it is just part of the sport. Like staying down and all the other foibles of the sport.!!!!!!! On serious falls and crashes I have only ever heard a collective gasp around the stadium. As we know a serious crash can lead to the rider going out and winning the rerun and a rider that just appears to slide off can be seriously injured so the seriousness of the fall is always going to be difficult to gauge.

To be fair it was forecast to rain at 9 and rain at 9 it did so there was no option but to get on with it !!!

I don't swing either way tbh just saying as I see it. Maybe if I was a Dudley or a Mildenhall suporter it would all be a lot clearer. Just seems that Mildenhall wanted to hedge their bets between GI and JB. or they would have declared JB in time and no 'amiguity'. You telling me that someone of Lee and Louise' experience can't read speedway rules. PS JB should be allowed to ride if the rules say he can

Could our Rebel friends asdvise What is the likelyhood of this meeting going ahead? Weatherwise :-)

Glad to be of service!!!!!!!!!!