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Yes!!!!!Private one between me and montie I'm affraid well me montie and his 2 yard sticks one that he uses for Scunthorpe and one that he uses for the rest of the NL

My first visit to the IOW hopefully not the last you have a great set up down there. A briliant meeting with some good racing both teams were unlucky with engine failures and a couple of falls for the Hitmen. I have to say Adam Ellis, don't know much about him apart from he lives in France. was ceratinly a great guest for the IOW. From http://www.buxtonhitmen.co/ ISLE OF WIGHT 49 BUXTON 44 Tuesday July 31, 2012 NATIONAL LEAGUE Isle of Wight 49: Danny Warwick 11, Ben Hopwood 10, Aaron Baseby 9+1, Adam Ellis 8+2, Danny Stoneman 5+2, Kyle Hughes 4, Paul Starke 2+1 Buxton 44: Charles Wright 15, Robert Branford 10+1, Adam McKinna 7, Luke Priest 6+1, Chris Widman 3+1, Ryan Blacklock 2, Dean Felton 1+1

And now we have come in from the playground how could this be achieved? release monthly averages? This probably wouldn't make much difference as Kings Lynn have ridden 1 match in 6 weeks I think Drop the matches when a riders averarge changes to 2 A 2.H. Not a realistic reflection of average scoring power IMHO. Rank riders rather than go on their scoring achievements? I believe this is done in NZ and is successful but not quite sure how it works. I can't think of any others. One thing that is for certain is the NL is going through a barren period but I'm sure it will pick up as the DL's and the Amatuer meetings are showing great prospects.

Ooooh get you with stand up routine Right I'll ask the question again In what respect?

In what respect???? I agree maybe as Perry has a 'settled' PL place maybe he should be replaced by a 3 pointer any suggestions????? but Dudley are out to win the league after the dissapointment of the last 2 years and good luck to them. (as Scunny were last year. Remember a cerrtain S Nielson at number 8 as a 5 point rider?). Ben try as he might to get a new average has simply not done enough meetings but that is down to weather and amount of meetings in the NL when he has he will move up!!!!!!!!!!!! I supose at Stoke the race is on to see who makes the most progress out of Wrathall and Carr as that could be Adam down at Res again!!!!!! Would that be a joke?????

Don't make it right Wrong we have the so called greatest sporting specticle on earth taking over in the next 3 weeks where people strive to move up the medal ladder it's the nature of sport and measures progress and development. Well it maybe low points money in Rye House speak and this may come as a surprise to you but some riders are happy to ride for it and ride all season as they want to learn Give the lads a Trophy what harm could it do

The MDL project steps it up. With the introduction of the Midland Development League Riders Championship Taken from http://www.leicesterlions.co/ Beaumont Park will host the inaugural Midland Development League Riders’ Championship Final when the top riders from the seven clubs will compete for the title. The event is planned for Friday 28th September with a 7.30pm start. Kelvin Lapworth League Coordinator said; GP format. each team to nominate 2 riders, 2 wild cards nominated by myself and 2 reserves to be nominated by Leicester. In line with MDL rules the riders will not be paid for this meeting however we are looking for sponsors to cover costs and for trophy's and prizes

They have Lewis Rose and Jake Williams waiting in the wings picking up some experience in the JL's. Stagnated no disheartened maybe as you probably ask yourself the question. What for????? Stokes was riding brilliantly at Leiceter in a recent challenge not far off the PL riders and was stopped by the ref from riding in the 'exclusive' PL heats so when you are working against that kind of mentality I'm not surprised they all don't give up. Confidence and motivation can be as much as a factor as ability..

I know Lee Geary is riding at reserve.

I have learned over the years to ignore what is said on here and take it with a pinch of salt, unless i'm feeling in a mischievious mood, which I often am i'm affraid. Don't take it all to heart some weeks it will be up, some weeks it will be down and some weks it will be someone else I supose at the end of the day the forum is there for people to express their views, granted it can be annonymously and that can be frustrating but I have always gone on the 'fair game' theory take any praise which may come your way but that will also bring criticism with it.' that's speedway' or so they say

You are right of course but those passports were issued by the Consulate general of HK they weren't full british passports and it said so on the front

Having seen Simon at Leicester most weeks I would say the whole Lions set up didn't work for him not the other way round. I don't know if he turned down any other offers at the beginning of the season, to go to Leicester, but I do hope not. Simon has always struck me as a team man. Other riders such as Birks, Worrall ® etc strike me as more individual riders. Every rider that enters the NL can't be the next world champ!!!!!!! but if they entertain as they go then why knock. That made me chuckle I await the response with baited breath

At the end of the day if you have a British Passport you are British,regardless of where you were born, or parentage. I'm a Brit through and through but my Brother has dual Dutch/British Nationality, not a rider btw, because he was born in Holland and has a british father the only difference being that holding a british passport, once upon a time openeded more international doors than a dutch one when it was the old black passport. These days you hold a European passport so no difference. It's only a matter of time before the NL will have to recognise a European nationality anyway. Henning is married to a British girl and needs the grand required to apply for british citizenship to hold a british passport

Can I just say this was not me. That will teach me to leave my account signed in

Surely this is against the rules if he is riding - teams must be declared at least 72 hours before the meeting.

I know you what you mean and don't forget Darren Mallet Kings Lynn John Resch Mildenhall last year It does seem to be a regular injury which takes a huge amount of time to heel as they still aren't back now.

I supose you have to question wether he was some how forced to ride for the Raiders and this has been brewing for a while.

Jayne posts don't seem to delete these days just hide so the mods can see the content.

I am gutted to say that Chris Widman wont be able to take part in this excellent project going forward as he now does not meet the criteria set for the Junior development leagues now he has a place at Buxton. Some will say he shouldn't have been in it in the first place but it has helped him inmensley and if it had been in place when he was 16 then who knows. I would like to say a huge thank you from the bottom of my heart to all the people involved in running these Junior leagues and the amount of hard work that goes into running them, all for free. The project is working and I hope you go on from strength to strength. Tina Widman

Sorry to hear about all the injuries last night, Nathan, Tommy and Danny here's hoping for a speedy recovery to all concerned.

I stand corrected

I think people are getting too down on the Hitmen lets face it the only team to come close to beating the Heathens at home were Mildenhall and that scoreline was 52 - 41. Clearly the help they are getting from Jan O is doing them some good, as they are a different team to the one I saw last year and good on them. Here's wishing them better luck at Rye House on Sat and at home against Kings Lynn on Sun. Queue 'Montie' .

Well done to the Heathens they deserve it after a couple of heartbeaking seasons. I know they were winning but enjoyed a bit of banter with the Heathen supporters best of luck for the rest of the season. Heat 1 was called back because the tapes went up squeueif and the start was uneven.

Are you saying that if Ben was given the opportunity to ride for say Kings Lynn you would turn the opportunity down because he would be 'out classed' ?. I know most of the riders are more than happy to ride against these people because it gives them a challenge. They are bringing their experience to the NL the step up to PL seems to be too big for lads to fire staright off. There are only so many teams and so many no. 1's so teams need to use riders like Worrall and Roynan. How many out and out NL NO1.s can you name?.

You only seem to go onto page 2 and beyond if a team has lost and people concoct conspiracy theories as to why. Dudley have a massive fan base and 3 or 4 come on here that speaks volumes. Sad but true