dontforgetthefueltapsbruv

Should be comfortable by at least 20 but cant take anything for granted. Its the away meetings that will decide our qualification fate.

and we thank you very much for it! PS at least he made it look like he was trying - its not just penalties the Germans are better than the English at.!!

injured in a pre season challenge so presumably not considered part of the official first declaration is the way it appears.Good that you acknowledge MPTs inclusion as outside the regs. Will be interesting to see if the MC choose to invoke the reg that IS in the book updating averages of MPT and Lambert before 4 home 4 away should a redclaration take place before May 1st. Would seem strange to use a rule that isnt in the book whilst choosing not to use one that is.

accepted - so infact Roynon was never in the official first declaration therefore MPT isnt actually a replacement at all.Of course MPTs average at 4.92 goes against regs 18.6.3 and 18.6.4. There is no provision to use his previous figure. He will be gaining a new 4 home 4 away average and 16.2.9 means the MC may issue a revised MA based upon actual rides if the team redclares.

Lots of talk about retaining MPT but surely its not as simple as that. Currently he is just a temporary injury replacement and not in the formal declared 1-7 so to include him he has to be part of a redclaration. At that point there is provision to reassess his average even if he hasnt done 4 home and 4 away. Given that the formula for rolling averages from May will not include 2013 meetings even if that means using under 20 matches there is a chance the MC could choose to do that.

agree you couldnt have it for the main league programme but could for all other comps.LC - from other groups and thhose knocked out in latter stages. Play offs - non qualifiers only KOC - it is split into 2 halves so if needed in 1st round must be from other half and thereafter only from those knocked out.

I only remember the bricks - the scorechart is already wiped from my mind!!

Id say Mike Bacon has made a pudding using a dozen eggs when only 3 were needed and that The Scotsman is just a miserable foreigner! wink Boro are obviously his southern team as proved by his 2 programme bricks.

I would actually like to see a rule that any guests cant come from sides in the same qualifying group. Just seems silly that good performance from one of your own riders could be the reason your team is knocked out. Then in the latter stages guests only from those teams knocked out. Similar should apply to the KOC and play offs. me too and I made similar comments so I think it must be why! wink

Pboro with 20 metres of the straights then??

Sad news. One of the best commentators from any sport let alone just cricket. Easy to forget just how good he was when playing the game too.

result stands means meeting completed and will count. I thought it was very similar to the Boro meeting in terms of entertainment.Some determined first bends, mostly from the home side with a few good passes by home riders later in the races when they occaisionally didnt make the gate. The away side were generally poor and never looked comfortable. The above could easily describe both meetings. Cant agree that the track looked rough and it certainly wasnt the over watered ploughed field of the showgrounds bend 3.

Stefan was my choice for rider of the night. Good speed and choosing good lines rather than just chasing back wheels when behind. Much easier than I expected overall. Agree that heat 13 should never have started. Was Rohan officially excluded?? Didnt hear it announced. I would be surprised if the ref could be certain of any decision.

the details on updates also stated he was chasing Kerr and putting pressure on him in the 2nd reserve race which is a positive sign

Just checked on updates - Stefan 5+1 tonight beating Kerr in heat 2 and Morris in his other 3.

partner of Hutch???

Is replacing Greenwood with a 7+ rider within the budget that the crowds allow though?? No point winning in 2015 and closing in 2016.

Im expecting a tough battle in this one. This is not a Rebels side that will struggle as previously. Worrall and Lanham should give them the solid middle missing in the past and Kurtz is too good to continue his poor form at Foxhall. If Starke gets his teeth into it then it will be tight. If we want to take the group we need to win and stop them taking a point. Anything less would mean needing to take something from the OTA which right now seems beyond us. Prediction 50-43.

Updates are fantastic. I dont do twitter. Last night was my first away meeting since the Witches went PL due to a combination of cost and time. It was also my 11 year old sons first ever away meeting. We hope to do a few more now but will still be reliant on updates for the rest. Can honestly say though that updates has never been the reason I havent gone.

of course MPT should really be that 7.50 rider himself anyway but thats a different story!

Im all for a dirt line on the outside and agree there were some great first turns from those who dared. That end had grip but in a measured manner. Turn 3 though for me was borderline dangerous. The dirt line was very deep and wet and if you dared go there you had a 50/50 chance of getting into seriois trouble. Aside from 4 falls there were a number of other scary near things. Also there seems to be a very big bump on the entrance to turn 1- a few took off just a the point they were looking to slide. I suppose they may have felt more comfortable with the slick conditions in the air! End of the day the best team won. Well done to the pussycats.

Thank goodness for Danny and the rest rather poor to say the least aside from Cam who was the only other with the right lines and the pace to match the Panthers. Track wasnt great IMO - too much too wide. Turn 3 particularly tricky.

Will be leaving a sun drenched Ipswich in a little while. The group is now wide open after thepussycats win this aftrnoon. Up the Witches!!

Are there a few pussycats who wish theyd paid the extra £4 now??

In the past I have been critical that the full details have been kept secret so its a big thumbs up from me for the new info.