Gavan

The first breach was Tungate not Cook. If the rule is touching the tapes then Cook did no wrong. I get more annoyed with riders who try to jump and miss it completely and then it gets called back. Riders will always try and suck their opponents into the tapes. Jason Garrity has freely admitted that at Premier league level he loves to try and make James Sargeant go through the tapes

In what way? I often go out with friends and we regularly chat about speedway including one guy who hates Woffy and no none of us ever end up on our backs. Ive backed Adam all season and as an ex witch i couldnt be happier to see him do well. Do i think he was the right choice for the world cup? No as i thought Bates had done more on the world stage at the time and i stand by that. Since the World Cup Bates has gone backwards and Adam has held his own. Still dont understand why you blocked me just because i thought Bates at the time was the right way to go. I have no beef with you like you do with me obviously and i wish Adam every success

Yeah i will try to be more sensible if i can but if you take a look at some of his posts he mentions my name before ive even posted.

Ok let me point out a few points: The only abuse i dish out is to the same 2 people. I only use the words idiot and troll. Shovlar puts out many many statements to get his points across and calls me name if i disagree. Clown idiot part pillock are just some of the names ive been called. I then once called him a numpty and he reported it. I now report him when he does it. Bit pathetic yes but why should it be ok for him. The post you have highlighted was a dig at him basically. For example he has given me load of abuse over the Bates v Ellis debate for the world cup. He kept telling me that Adam is a racer and is so much better on big tracks (i agree) so when Adam struggled i was throwing that back at him. He got other things wrong as well so what i did was prove that point. Its ok for him to go on and on at myself and call me names so he cant go crying when its the other way round. I did fancy Poole to win the other night and in my reasons i included the fact that Newman was good there on Bank Holiday, I thought Tungate would make them stronger and Hougaard make Belle Vue weaker. I thought it was the right time for Poole to get a win there and couple with Zagar being off form it was. I just wasnt expecting Newman and Ellis and to a lesser extent Buck to be so poor. I got the prediction wrong and im happy to admit that. I apologise to you an others if my posts are out of line but yes ive had plenty of stick in the past and im standing up for myself against one person Well done hope your proud of yourself bless you.

Playing victim lol. dont need to mate im more than happy with my opinions on the meeting. No matter how much i dislike someone on here i still believe putting personal details on here goes to far bu then i guess i have been brought up with some decency. The post has been removed either by Shovlar or admin and i would thank either who did it. Take a look back over the thread and read my posts, i never came on here ' to look for a fight'. I put up a review of the meeting, praising Poole riders as well as mentioning those that struggled. And i lose to Shovlar lol. Take a look over some posts. We are both right and wrong at times. He said Tungate would weaken Poole and that Hougaard would strengthen Belle Vue. He was wrong, i was right. I have no issue being wrong. I predicted Poole would win by 10 and i was wrong, simple really Shovlar aggressive right from the start calling me a pillock but thats ok. He called me a pillock because ' Hougaard is better than Fricke round Belle Vue' ............erm no he isnt as has been proved, but thats ok to abuse me because i had a different opinion My first post after the meeting. If anyone thinks its aggressive then im stunned and backing my opinion that i was right

Mark Loram started on the grass and then went along to watch speedway at Canterbury. There he met a rider called Denzil Kent who took Mark under his wing and helped him along until he got to the age of 15 when his dad Paul knew Dave Pavitt at Hackney and Mark was able to get rides as a mascot there. In his early days Simon Wigg and Roland Danno used to run training sessions for the younger riders. Mark was a regular at these. So you have to have a certain level of ability but most riders are guided and trained by other riders

Think Newman has done his time at Poole and won't be in the draft next year. To much of a risk as a second string and Poole should make sure they get Ellis who has improved no end and left Newman miles behind.

didnt put where I work on here at all. I private messages Sommelier and told him my details. Anyway that's not the point. The point is that you feel the need to put it out there again 3 weeks after it was mentioned. If you can't argue or debate without feeling the need to bring stuff up like that then it doesn't show you as a person in a very good light why do you or anyone else feel the need to look at my employers website? I couldn't care less who anyone is on here. I think it's poorvthat Shovlar feels the need to go back over it 3 weeks after it happened

I did put my details out there to prove who I was as I was getting abuse about having 2 accounts. Didn't expect other people to be so disgraceful to publish then that's all. No matter how much I was provoked or how much I dislike individuals on here I would never disclose their personal details. It's taking it to far. Where was the need to publish where I used to work? Simply done just to be spiteful shows the sort of people on here I'm afraid if they think it's ok to do that

i have reported this post as you have to stoop that low to give out private information and troll me. Very very sad. If you have an ounce of decency you will remove my personal details.

spot on its all ifs and buts! Glad you agree with me and not Shovlar nice to see. He thinks it's clear cut and you agree with me its all ifs and buts. It's like a football team missing a penalty in the 10th minute then their opponents miss one in the 85th. The team who missed the last one weren't robbed they were lucky the other team missed earlier hence the right result.

oh my word your now on Starmans level of thickness are you the same person? You talk about facts ok let's look at the facts. You couldn't have won the meeting if Zagar hadn't firstly hit the fence and secondly had an engine failure!!! How about that for a fact!!! The ef for Kurtz would have been irrelevent. Plus how do you know what would have happened if Brady kept going? He could have slid off anything!!! Plus if needed Worrall and Cook wouldn't have took it easy in heat 15 and tested equipment!!! You live in a very strange little Shovlar bubble. Failing to see anything else in the meeting bar Kurtz ef.

you talk much crap its unreal!! Of course what happened earlier affected the result!!! What planet you on!!! Zagar lost a point hitting the fence and then an engine failure when Belle Vue looked likely to get a 5-1 made it that you still had a chance come heat 14. To look at one incident and no others shows you up totally as a blinkered fan.

ok but you wouldn't have been in with a chance of winning the meeting if Zagar hadn't lost a place by hitting the fence or his own engine failure when Belle Vue could have got a 5-1. So no Bradys ef did not cost Poole the meeting

but you don't troll lol. Making a statement that is totally false like 'the engine failure in heat 14 was the difference between Poole and Belle Vue' is simply there to gain a reaction. That's what trolls do as they get a kick out of peoples responses. Surely even you aren't thick enough to think that's what stopped you coming top!! good post. Only Poole get injuries or have riders missing lol i can get on a bike and give 100% commitment!! Irrelevent he needs to up his game

Im not biased i just stick up for what i believe in with my opinions. Were Poole robbed the year Coventry won it? Yes Were Birmingham robbed the year Poole win it? Yes If Belle Vue dont win it will hey be robbed? If Poole change riders and Hans doesnt come back then yes. Just out of interest if you have blocked me how have you read my post and responded as nobody else has quoted it??

The best team in the league will finish top. Then the best team that has been able to bring in riders to replace those out of form (Joonas) or those that are injured (Hans) means that the teams who creep in have strengthened up and can be the form horses going into the play offs. The team (Belle Vue) who have been the best team are then penalised for being successful. Coventry came from bottom , changed a load of riders, crept in and won the league. Everyone knew if they got 4th they would be favourites. Poole were the best team that season and were robbed. Same as the season when Poole had all the momentum and changed half a team and crept in and won it. Whoever finishes top is the best team in my eyes. Not one who can change thing to win a cup competition. That said i do enjoy watching the play offs.

No unfortunatly. I work in car sales very busy time for me so get out of work until 8pm most nights but that is easing off so fingers crossed we get in and i can get to a few more matches as only been 4 times this season and none since June Im sure ive seen him at Foxhall, Star Of Anglia? Risagers testimonial? Cant remember!

Not got a problem with Pearson and Tatum could b 2 boring monotone people instead but your never going to please all of the people. Its just the odd over reaction they need to tone down like when Newman went between 2 Belle Vue riders , it was obvious he wasnt or couldnt make it stick so why the over reaction

Swindon won there as Tungate got 17 from reserve and Fricke was missing plus it was Belle Vues first home meeting. Wolves lost by 2 there but had no Woffinden but Klindt. As i said for me its a no brainer to choose Swindon, Belle Vue having been 6 up there with 3 heats to go before it was called off

The play offs are here to stay as long as sky are involved. Do i like them? Yes for the fact i can see more matches on my tv. However there is no denying there should be something for the table toppers. Been close in the elite league this year but in the Premier Somerset have walked it. Couple of injuries in the play offs and they may lose , no justice in that at all.

Exactly you must pick the team you think you can beat in the semi finals. Surely they would pick Swindon its a no brainer isnt it? Then if they get Wolves in the final i would imagine a monster crowd to see the 2 time World Champion. Fans drop away everywhere if the team struggles thats inevitable n yes it happened to Poole in 2009. mate i havent been aggressive at all on this thread. Poole track isnt gate and go, sometimes the riders make mistakes on the ruts and others come past , though it has got better. Holder must envy and wish Belle Vue was his home track, looks nigh on unbeatable round there

hatred of all things Poole??? no just a couple of fans agressive name calling lol. you dont like the word troll then bless. meak praise.........hmmm Holder sensational and Ellis been excellent all season is meak praise then??? strange tirade of abuse lol........go ahead please quote me the abuse ive dished out. you need to be careful posting like this mate. You cant say Tungate was exceptional You cant say Zagar had a nightmare You cant say Holder was exceptional And how dare you criticise the Poole track!! Very abusive post your simply a troll mate

I think the loss of Lambert is huge. Lindgren and Worrall will prove tough opponents though Morris should go well but our reserves are flying. I can see us winning by at least 10

Please again tell me what insults ive used apart from idiot for Starman (and please check this thread as others have used worse) and troll for Shovlar. Last nights meeting was a big meeting and as a speedway fan of course i will comment. I didnt insult anyone (merely pointing out that Shovlars points at the start of the thread were wrong) i simply put my view of the match up and as yet nobody has discussed with me any of those. I dont post to get a reaction i reply to others on here that do do that. I am the poster that reacts to others and yes sometimes stupidly. It doesnt matter what i post about Poole it will be pulled apart. I have said all season how brilliant Adam Ellis has been. I praised Holder hugely for last night, that gets glossed over. Not one Belle Vue fan has whinged that i said Zagar and Hougaard were poor, yet if i mention the Poole riders that had bad nights the same few jump all over me. In my opinion Ellis away from home at times, and Newman and Bucks poor from could cost Poole the league. Apparantly im not allowed to say that. I think Poole will still win the league as they have the habit of keeping scores close away from home. As ive said feel free to have a debate, i wont insult you, you dont troll and write guff like a certain person