Gavan

I see yet again you failed to read my post. Yes Starke did better than Newman would have done. However that wasnt the reason Poole won. I quite clearly stated they wanted it more and because Holder and Ellis rode well Good of you to put words in my mouth to try and win the argument but if you need to make things up to get a point across you then seem a bit desperate

no surprise at all. But its strange that nobody outside of Poole likes the posts and yes i did have a quick count to prove the point too Starman who often posts crap on many threads until the facts are pointed out to him Now that the facts have been, he wont acknowledge the facts he will just abuse me and tell me to get off the Poole thread. Just shows a lack of intellect and debating skills it was deliberate , tongue in cheek but i guess that was lost!

You couldnt have read the thread properly then as not one person has said Poole were strengthened. People have said the riders that came in could possibly have done a better job than those that were supposed to have rode. Starke scored more than Newman would have done. R/R scored a maximum 9/9 before the fourth race. And Wells would have covered Kurtz. Poole won because they wanted it more and mainly because of the scoring of their own 2 riders Holder and Ellis oh just quickly before i go back to another thread on this open forum just a quick couple of facts. On this thread my posts were liked by Mdmc82 x2 , Scott1412, Bryn, Vincent Vega, Shads, Tigerite, Chris4gillian. Now thats quite a make up of fans from different clubs and fans with a far more superior knowledge of the sport than yourself. Oh and Shovlars likes are from Skidder x5, Sharpenrake, Chris4gillian, Piratespiratespirates x3 (strange individual who likes his own posts as well), Starman x3 and Poole Quay x3 So as you can see i get likes from a broad spectrum of fans , those who understand the sport, and Shovlar gets likes from only Poole fans, his little clique of bosom buddies who all like each others posts. (chris4gillian i do not include you in this) its all a bit sad that you only enjoy each others posts. Maybe one day someone from another club might actually like one of the posts but i doubt it as we are all anti Poole....................or are we all anti idiots

big whoooosh for you there Shovlar gets more likes than me? all 3 of you get likes from each other its quite sweet really as true fans never like any of your posts and there it is in a nutshell Yes you did complain (not you personally). The start of the thread was made up of Poole fans complaining. Like someone had took their bat and ball away and you werent allowed to play. Then (and yes against the odds) you won. Ah now everythings ok. You got your ball back and your happy to play now. Very very childish from a select few

quote me all the posts that have an opinion on me then as there is according to you so many!! Then i can go through the ones that have an opinion on what a piece of work you are. Think you would win by a country mile Can i just ask you if you know the difference between opinion and fact. A fact is something that happened. Just some little facts for you. The British Semi Finals were around a GP round. After hearing these dates Tai Woffinden pulled out of the semi finals after announcing publicly they didnt fit i. Tai Woffinden announced publicly that if offered he would turn down any wildcard. Tai Woffinden announced publicly that he felt wrong to take the place of someone who had ridden at the semi finals. All those facts that were also very much made public, are evidence as to why Tai Woffinden didnt ride in the semi finals Now your opinion You feel that Tai had made his mind up long before the event dates were announced. Personally im happy to go with the facts

wow you english is as good as starmans!! whats diarreah by the way never heard of it. You laugh at me lol. The only people who like anything you write are Starman , Poole Quay and Skidder.! Hardly a glowing recommendation. When your posts are liked by people other than your own fans let me know agree with me?? what are you going on about?? Quite clearly on this thread shovlar and piratespiratespirates were going on and on about the meeting before it took place. As Poole won they then come back on the thread like a couple of schoolchildren. Try reading the thread as i congratulated another Poole fan on his teams victory - hardly anti Poole. As it happens you werent one of the people who came on before the meeting and then acted foolishly afterwards so i dont have an issue with you about that. When you get a couple of your fans behaving like morons before and after the meeting then yes im going to respond same as other people have

ah bless. try asking other Poole fans if i can debate on a Poole thread and they will agree that i can. The trouble is that there are the usual 3 of you that embarrass yourselves and your club on regular occassions. Look at the pathetic immature posts from piratespiratespirates! You banged on and on about this meeting then you come on here writing absolute tosh once you have won. Take a look at the thread im not the only one to point this out. And if you also check the thread i have congratulated Poole on their win, to those fans who actually know what they are talking about and didnt moan like a child before the match and then act like a moron after it.

ipswich are struggling but I have no idea how that's relevant to this match. Tut tut you know the rules!!

spoken like a proper speedway fan. Well done to your team mate. I also thought you would get beat. Shame 2 or 3 of your fans let you down

they make themselves look stupid but it's fun to watch. And one of them was singing bless him! Poor losers are also poor winners and yet again that's the case. Funnily enough it's always the same 2 or 3 Poole fans who embarrass themselves. Most of the Poole fans are decent folk. You can spot the sensible ones. They didn't post moaning about a so called farce and they haven't come on here afterwards singing songs and making prats out of themselves

ah ok then. Just the same old poor attitude of certain Poole fans. Moan and moan about the match then cheer like schoolboys cause they won. Very very sad

oh dear you are making yourself look a real t0sser. But hey keep going it's funny

no it's ok it's much more fun that tiu have made a d1ck of yourself with all your posts on this match

how old are you 12!! Your not a true fan obviously or you wouldn't have called the meeting a farce. You and Shovlar making yourself look like idiots to the rest of the forum is great fun though

what a pathetic set of posts from so called fans of their team. Then they come on and start gloating when they win! Hope the Poole 7 tonight read what their fans thought of them. Disgusting

ah I was playing spot the t0sser and I found you you think Newman would have scored 16 plus 1 then tonight!! You only support when your winning quite pathetic

call yourself a fan?? Slagging off the fact that the match shouldn't have happened and how weak you were! Your guests easily outsourced what Kurtz Buck Hans and Newman would score. Pathetic pre match comments and then cheering the win. Poor attitude

As I said earlier Poole able to have horses for courses. Starke scoring more than either Newman or Bjarne would. R/R for Hans so far 9 out of 9. And Kurtz and Buck hate the place. I don't get the negativity from Poole fans. So if they hold on and they go on a victory parade nobody to applaud them. Poole fans only support their side if they think they will win

Well shame the Poole fans didn't go along and support their team who currently are winning. Ellis and Starke showing me to be right when I said they had improved past Newman.

I get what you are saying but Lakeside dont have an alternative. They have 2 choices: 1. Postpone the match (which they said they tried to do) then have Poole come back full strength and possibly get the points that stop Lakeside form making the play offs or 2. Run the match against a weak Poole side and hopefully get all the league points. This will boost there play off chances and lead to a minimum of 1 play off match with a large bumper crowd which could lead to a second bumper crowd should they reach the final. Option number 2 would make much more financial sense. Have a small crowd tonight but gain in the long term If they postponed tonight they might either not fix the fixture in or risk not getting the points. I can see why people are up in arms but its obvious why Lakeside want to run the meeting. Im sure if it was Poole at home they would run 100%

Never understand why teams want 'bragging rights' surely the fact that Lakeside will or possibly should take all the points is the only important issue. I have a friend who supports Spurs and he lives and breathes for their results against Arsenal (and West Ham). He openly taunts us if Spurs beat said team but then come the end of the season they are always behind Arsenal!! Would you be bragging if Poole win at Lakeside (full strength or not) but then ultimatly dont make the top 4? One match means nothing in the context of the whole season.

and in my previous post i alluded to as much. The thing is he stated quite clearly that he didnt want a wildcard and he clearly stated his reasons. He might not have been bothered after the farcical dates of the semis so instead of saying that he came out with the wildcard statement. The fcat is we will never know that answer. But for some to say the facts were that he couldnt be bothered is absolute tosh and calling Tai a liar basically

Lol really is that a fact is it?? No its your opinion. The facts: Tai declined to compete in the semi finals due to the dates they were arranged for clashing with a gp weekend Upon withdrawing he also announced that he wouldnt accept a wildcard as he felt it wasnt fair on the riders who had done the semi finals. He was NEVER offered a wildcard to ride in the British Final. Your OPINION is that he never intended to ride in the first place. Please back that up with some sort of statement from Tai then please otherwise you are simply putting words in his mouth to try and back your claim. Then again you maybe right, Tai might have woke up one morning in say February and just decided to miss the British Final because he felt like it. Funny how nothing was said until the dates for the semis became common knowledge!

Correct as he didnt do the semi finals he said it would be unjust to get a wildcard when the other guys had raced the semi finals. Playing devils advocate he may have said that so it deflected away from the point that he might have turned one down anyway. However the fact remains it was the semi finals that were the issue, something that for some on here is hard to understand as they keep wittering on about him missing the final

Nope but missing the semi finals that were the same time as a gp weekend, and then not accepting a wildcard because he felt he didnt deserve it , could of harmed his chances. 79 pages in and people still think him missing the final was the issue when it was the semi final dates that were the problem.