Gavan

Nothing to do with people not agreeing with me. People can voice an opinion i have no issue with that. However go back over my posts and the responses. I stated how i saw the meeting. NOT ONE person has replied with anything resembling a discussion point, something people can debate. I have took the same old abuse from the same people that its all against Poole. I stated how i think the riders performed last night nothing more. Never attacked Poole at all. Zagar, Hougaard, Buck, Newman and Ellis were poor last night and Nicholls not much better. I dont get how that can be classed as anti Poole or trolling and ive offered people to have a discussion if their view are different and nobody has, i guess its just easier to abuse me rather than try to have a chat. As said many times there are 2 Poole fans i have issues with and of course its great fun for him to have a pop at me and then cant take it all when i give it back to him. Cool,find my insults then please. Apart from calling Shovlar a troll i havent insulted anyone. I have no issue with you at all. Steve Shovlar doesnt give honest opinions he just posts to try and wind people up. Check the thread, see how many people agree with me. Nobody expected Hougaard to do better than Fricke............he posted it made Belle Vue stronger, merely a post to get a response, as even i will give him some credit that he cant be that foolish.

ah bless you. Please tell me where in that report i have lied then please?? And you dont think Shovlar is a troll lol laughable read the thread see what others say. Was Zagar poor? Yes Did he gift Poole points by hitting the fence and an engine failure? Yes Were Ellis and Newman poor? Yes Did Hougaard weaken Belle Vue ? Yes Did Shovlar say Hougaard would strengthen Belle Vue? Yes Was Shovlar wrong? Yes Did Tungate strengthen Poole? Yes Did Shovlar say he wouldnt? Yes Was Shovlar wrong? Yes Was Holder absolutely sensational? Yes Did Poole only lose by 3 despite having 3 riders (Buck, Ellis & Newman) being poor? Yes Will Fricke outscore Hougaard if these 2 teams meet in the final? Probably Will Zagar score more than 4? Probably Will Newman, Ellis and Buck get more than 5 between them? Probably So if you think i wrote , in your words 'predictable crap' then please tell me which parts of what i wrote were wrong??? Again please tell me if anything i wrote was incorrect. Feel free to have a discussion about the meeting and have an opinion on it.

dont feel like I've said anything out of turn. The form of Ellis and Newman is a concern. Kurtz engine failure did not cost Poole the meeting. Shovlar said Hougaard was a good guest for Fricke....he was wrong. He said Tungate was a poor guest for Hans...... He wasn't. I said Holder was awesome and he was. No poisen from me. 2 of Belle Vues heat leaders got 10 between them and their number one got only 4 of those. If Buck , Ellis or Newman had have done a little bit better Poole would have won. Poole still kept it to 3 points which is why over 2 legs they would be favourites to beat anyone.

Well that was there for the taking for Poole but for what ever reason they failed to take it. Zagar very poor and gifted Poole 3 points once when hitting the fence and another with the engine failure. But apparently according to the troll Kurtz engine failure cost them the meeting! What a strange little bubble that man lives in!!. Good job Ellis wasn't needed in the World Cup half a lap behind in a league meeting but apparently he is a racer and loves these big tracks! Newman was awful. It's ok being good on a poor track at Poole but his away scored could cost Poole. Tried to go between 2 riders them shut off very strange. Hougaard was awful and no replacement for Fricke at all as we all said......oops no the troll said it would make them stronger lol his speedway knowledge is so bad it's quite scary. Tungate massively strengthened the Pirates in place of Hans as again everyone said he would......oops except the troll again dear dear. Holder totally superb absolute masterclass. So the favourites only lost by 3 so at Poole you would expect them comfortably to win hence why they should win the league. Came Ellis and Newman be so poor again? Fricke will make Belle Vue stronger and surely Zagar must do better. Should be tight but Poole still should win

Dont hate Poole or the majority of fans. Just you have a resident idiot and a troll on this forum who quite possibly are the 2 most disliked people on here. They are happy to give the verbals out and then dont like it and cry when they get any back. Look how stupid Starman has made himself look on this thread yet again and how many people tell him so.? For further proof check the horse racing thread! Thing is i often compliment the Poole team, Holder and Ellis in particular, except that tends to get ignored doesnt it. I give my opinion that Newman hasnt been great this season and everyone comes down on you like a tonne of bricks and i hate Poole crops up. Certain Poole fans are decent and you used to be one of them just a shame 2 of you let you down

Yes the leagues are close........indicates how poor the standard is of British riders. Go back to the early 90's and it was 1 maybe 2 premier league boys who made it. I can remember Louis and Les Collins in 1990 and Goodwin in about 93.

How? Said Manchester and Bradford arent speedway towns which can affect attendance. Belle Vue are still the biggest name in UK Speedway mainly due to the success and history of the club irrelevent of how many fans they get through the gate. Who are the biggest 2 clubs in footballs top league? Still Man Utd and Liverpool Hougaard for Fricke makes Belle Vue weaker than Poole with Tungate for Hans. I look at the 2 teams matched up and i can see a Poole win

Of course it matters! If Speedway is a minority sport in Manchester it doesnt matter how you promote it you will still struggle to get people in. Look at Bradfords stadium it was never full as wasnt a speedway town. Its not like Poole where there is nothing to do except stare at a few boats and make sure that your new girlfriend is your cousin. The jealousy coming out of Dorset regarding Belle Vue is so loud. Face facts that speedways biggest club has a great stadium and racetrack, something Poole fans dont seem to like. Back to tonight Poole should win this by 10. An inconsistent Zagar should be outscored by Holder Worrall has gone out of form Fricke missing is a massive blow for Belle Vue..................oh no wait the troll thinks Hougaard is better lol Buck and Kurtz will be more than a match for out of form Cook and Nicholls. And at reserve Newman although having a very poor season flew round here last time. Lets see if the favourites for the title can win away from home

Nope..............you insulted my family many times so i will insult you as i see fit. Take a look you are mocked all the time and are probably the most vilified and despised member on here.

Well done to Stead. Just goes to show the state British speedway is in when 3 of the top 4 from the British Final cant make the top 4 and 2 of them didnt even make the top 6!

village idiot followed by the forums biggest t0sser. Bye

what a pathetic post but to be expected. Tai is 12 behind Doyle so anything could happen. Pillock

Brilliant result what a chance we have now

Funny thing was that in 1987 (British League) and 1988 (national league) for Hackney ,Mark was pretty much the fastest trapper in the team. No idea why he didnt really continue this from 1989 at Ipswich onwards, but as you say it was great for the viewing public

Nice idea in theory but the only track without a rider is Poole and that wouldnt be a good place to have it. Belle Vue - Cook, Worrall Wolves - Masters Swindon - Josh G Lakeside - Kennett, Lawson Coventry - King , Garrity Kings Lynn - Lambert Leicester - Auty

Jason Garrity has improved this season. Holding a second string position with ease at Coventry and technically a number 1 at Sheffield if it wasnt for rolling averages. He had 5 points form 2 rides in the British Final and then got involved in a barging match and great race in his third before falling an injured in his 4th. Tony Rickardsson took no time at all to bloom. He first rode at Ipswich in the 1991 Billy Sanders memorial at the start of the season and finished runner up against a top field. Later that season he was world number 2, hardly took time to bloom!. Nielsen was dominant in the UK from the early 80's and by mid 80's on the world stage. As look as my bum points south Lewis Bridger will never be as good as Tai Woffinden. Mark Loram was very dedicated and only his gating held him back. His private life went off the rails a bit in the mid nineties and it affected his speedway. John Louis if he started earlier could have been world champ 1991 Ipswich were national league in 1990, World runner up in same season so i agree 100%

Thee is more chance of Holder riding for Poole than Magic or Lindback

Sound like a good team though the chances of Magic and Lindback riding here must be close to zero

And didnt Belle Vue recently get beat by Kings Lynn at home missing their number 1 when Fricke was missing?? If Lynn can win there then so should Poole especially getting track specialist Tungate to ride rather than 'white line' Hans

Laughable you think Hougaard is better that Fricke.......you need to get more knowledge of the sport before you make stupid trolling comments pal. Of course they are weakened anyone with any common sense can see that Great choice of guest for Poole in Tungate who got paid 17 last time where as Hans got 6. Swings this match hugely into Pooles favour. Unless Middlo has an issue getting Tungate motivated And believe it or not Belle Vue are not favourites for the title they are joint with Poole at 15/8 but hey when have you ever had any knowledge pal!

Thats exactly what i do.......unreal comments. Buck and Newman and to a lesser extent Kurtz have had average seasons. Holder started slowly but seems fine and Hans has done all that was required so to Bjarne. Ellis without doubt is Pooles rider of the year. Have i got to praise the whole 1-7????

Well we shouldnt have to many issues against a weakened Sheffield if some of their boys are struggling with injury, plus Howarth never goes well at our place. Im going for a win by about 15 points

spot on which is exactly what i said. Apparantly is absolutely fine for me to say that Ellis is having a good season and has improved. But if i say Newman hasnt improved then im a troll.......got to love some Poole fans logic. Must remember your not allowed to be negative towards any Poole riders

Passing off of every bend??? Well only from one rider. Lambert wasnt great last night but it happens. The only racing line was a out wide but if you got to close you went backwards. Riders lifting all over the place. Look at heat 14 all 3 riders lifted and headed towards the fence allowing Kennett a huge gap to go past. Everyone said Jan O' Pedersen couldnt gate Everyone said Mark Loram couldnt gate Lambert can go the way of Harris or he could go the way of the others time will tell Lol give it up pal Because he rides for Poole im not allowed an opinion right?? Ive praised Ellis or did you miss that conveniently??? If he has mechanical issues has that been all season. i have praised Newman for his efforts but he hasnt come on at all thats my opinion and one shared by many. Ellis has gone past him and so have others, and others have left him behind. If you dont like people having opinions then dont come on a forum! Are you telling me to shut up because i found the meeting boring unless MPT was in the race or because your to precious that i have an opinion on Newmans progress?

Why is it being negative to give an opinion? Kyle Newman is a young brit who gives 110% every time he gets on a bike and has been a good servant for Poole, and is a good rider for them to have in the team and the fans love him. All im saying is he has been left behind by some riders and passed by others. 3 years time we could see Garrity, Worrall, Ellis and Bates in the GB team. Will Newman? Personally i would say no.