Steve Shovlar

What is it with a couple of Belle Vue fans always trying to make out the playoffs are a completely seperate competition to the league? I got news for ya! It is no seperate competition! Fred Flange goes on about it in exactly the same way. The winners of the play offs are The League Champions.

The gates did fall very nicely for Dudek who had two reds in his last two rides. Would have probably have qualified anyway though.

So you think we are going to get 4 at Monmore on Monday? And then follow it up next Monday with the same at BV? Hasn't happened all season don't think its going to start now.

Good coverage. Wonder if that chalet / conservatory company has anything to do with Adrian Meidzinski.

But Matt Ford recognised Doyles potential when he was riding for us. He said on several occassions that if Doyle could get over his injuries (shoulder kept popping out) he would get to the top of the sport. I thought at the time what a load of rubbish, but he has proved Matt Ford right and me wrong. Never thought he would ever be more than a decent heat leader. Shows that fitness and dedication to the sport can pay off big time. And well done to him.

Yep. KK should have bought his British bikes along this afternoon! Doubt he will get a wildcard. 5 Poles is too many and there needs to be riders from a selection of countries. Lambert completely outclassed. Expected him to score 6-7 so that is disappointing. We do need two Brits in the series. Just who, is the issue.

Lindgren it is. Bjerre would have been terrible.

Come on Lindgre!

Bjerre through with two heat wins surely.

First of all Dudek is a good edition to the GP series. Glad he has qualified. Same goes for Vaculik. Type of rider who will battle to get in the top 8. No more of a threat than that. But Bjerre. God help us he is not the rider today he was when he was crap in the GP series. As bad as Harris getting through.

Agree. All for debate but some on here are incapable and show their ignorance with abuse. Best bet is to just use the block member filter and you will find the experience much more pleasureable. The abusers can end up talking to themselves.

All square one to go. And a draw it is. Good entertaining meeting.

Funnily enough the Poland v Russia meeting ended in a draw. Wonder if this one will go down to the final heat. On paper Poland look the stronger team.

How does the crowd compare to the bank holiday meeting?

Good ride from Bjarne and NickiP. A bit slick but some passing/.

Let's hope he doesn't "do a Fricke" then.

I would like to add, throughout all this, that I am not a Tai Woffinden "hater", just a fan who supports TeamGB and expects British riders to be proud to ride for their country. Not throw hissy fits and fail to back it up by giving reasons why. Woffinden learnt his trade in the UK, but by refusing to ride in the British Final, refusing to ride in the EL until Sweden finished, refusing to represent his country at international level doesn't leave a lot to like. He then doesn't help himself by refusing to give his reasons for dumping our proud national team in the gutter. Even Darcy Ward was fed up with it all and made a comment. You will always get the apologists on here backing him regardless, but the truth is he should start building a few bridges rather than throwing a few tantrums because people have said no to him. He could start by issuing a statement giving his reasoning for quitting Team GB. The would quash any rumours stone dead. But it is the right of the fans to know the reasoning behind him refusing to ride. It's a sport, and therefore not the same as a regular "job".

A shame it couldn't have been done in the meeting interval and would have probably have raised more funds. Anyone got any photos or video of the event?

Agree to a point, though in fact it won't go away until the fans are told officially what has happened. If the sport had a higher profile Woffinden wouldn't be allowed to stay silent and would have been hounded by the press for a statement.

Now they are trying to say, it was just a lark, when Ward was just fed up with all the BS.

I don't care what bullcrap you have been fed but what I have said is right. If not, then why doesn't Woffinden release a press statement putting his side of the story? You seem to just believe everything you have been fed from dazzafl (who is this Darren Fletcher?) who is mates with Woffinden and wouldn't have a word said against him no matter what. A simple statement from Woffinden is all that is required. Not asking a lot, is it?

Doesn't matter who we have booked we will still get beaten fairly easily. Wanted to make it up for this but doubt it will happen as I am in Lewes in Sussex on Monday.

Gate and go Wimborne Road? Are you kidding me? Been to every EL track loads of times and only Belle Vue this year has been better to the racing served up on a weekly basis at Poole. We are lucky that we have a track which allows passing on every bend, as was witnessed last night. I like to see proper passes, not a rider nearly crashing in the fence or losing control to allow a pass. Wolverhamptons track is not to everyones liking. I prefer fast speedway, not riders going backwards into bends. Its a personal preference. To me Belle Vue have got the perfect track, which is the exact opposite to Monmore Green. Some prefer Monmore.

To me the lots of passing is mostly caused by away rider error and the home rider behind taking full advantage. I have been to Monmore dozens of times and I much prefer bigger tracks. It's just a personal thing. Why not use Harris if available. He is not blocked by the 7 day rule as it was Wolves who used him.

Of course it was written by Darcy. Does someone actually believe his facebook account was hacked so someone could just make a post against Woffinden? Darcy was just peed off with all the bullcrap Woffinden was sprouting. Even Batchelor came on that thread and liked one of the replies. I know my post about the points money is 100% correct and true. Even Woffindens pal has argued that is the way it should be next year, which as Savalascloutingu21champ has pointed out it more or less confirms my info. I cannot divulge my source which leaves the nay sayers with ammunition to dismiss what I have said. But for those that wanted to know one of the main reasons, well that's been cleaned up.