ColinMills

how are the older fans pandered?...agree that marketing the sport towards ALL ages may help. it appear, very limited promotion takes place. (for the promoters that do) I apologise

would look good on the tv to show other nations a full crowd for the race offs

Orion had better go fetch BW, hes struggling on his own!

im 47....so your wrong AGAIN AND IF you took away the over 55s from speedway, you wouldn't have a sport!!

its the norm from some people

I think his qualities don't have to be visual, like colin pratt, saying the right thing at the right time is all that's needed. im sure woffy has him in the gp"s for some reason?

blimey, just seen the price on this thread. excellent value

if your 5th your 5th for a reason. but get your point

it wouldn't be meaningless if they could win the league away from home..but knowing theres a play off coming up, it would change the perceptive

I will ask you what I asked others. would a Edinburgh fan travel away, knowing they are already in the play offs the following week? probably not, hence, that specific match would have a lower gate, because Edinburgh fans would wait until the play offs, boosting that attendance. you take from one and give to another?

think we all want meaningful games. I recall the 70s with 16 teams in the league. I know it was a different period in speedway, but the straight league worked. to get these meaningful games, speedway has to become credible. Doubling up is dreadful, im sure we all want a team to follow, but not different line ups each week. The double pointer, again, not credible. lets get this sport back to a credible situation.

let me educate you Sidney. agree with BW, he then believes hes right, and he can close this thread for the 4th time!!

well as a fan I can tell you 100% I would prefer straight league traditional championship. If I was promoter of Leicester, id choose play offs as its a chance for them to creep in fourth to make bit of money. if I was promoter of poole, id choose straight championship, as a successful side automatically draw crowds, and the night they wrap it up,would automatically get the large crowd you keep on about!

BW....genuine question here. is this thread about club finances or what format the fans want?

love the penfold name!! but afraid its not appropriate to go under more than one name!!

does GAME OVER mean the same as END OF or DISCUSSION CLOSED?..You do like to feel in control on this subject?

don't you just notice the aggressiveness of the other sides view differently?..they wont accept another viewpoint on this.

you do realise you don't help your cause when everyone knows you were found out? by refusing to admit you are wrong makes all your other points void.

I could answer that, but as we both know, you made a WRONG allegation towards me. if and only when you admit that, I will answer any question you wish to put to me. hope you find that a polite reply?

how on earth was the old system a failure? I witnessed "4" league title nights. All packed. Who were the last non play off league champions? id suggest youcheck that evening! was march to September as dead as it is now with the play off system?? you argue the last 2 weeks, I will argue the first 6 months!!

yeah, read the john berry book, wonderful years and good insight

thought you brought this to an end BW?

many many like minded

pure common sense

thank you for your superior knowledge..