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I'd imagine that most of those who went to Swindon for a fiver to watch the so called highest level of British Speedway felt ripped off on both counts In our case, it's the fine line between losing money and trying to get a crowd in. This looks the least painful option but will enable Pearson to say what a good job the promotion have done to get the hoards of kids in throwing rotten fruit at him. Not the best headine to post. Whilst it isn't wholly inaccurate, it's easy to come to the wrong conclusion: Free admission for the big TV fixture (local rag headline) SKY CLASH WILL BE KIDS PLAY! (Panthers website)

It'll be better live and you get the chance to do a Basil Fawlty if there's an irritating kid near you who doesn't like the chips.

Normal admission unless you can follow in an adult with a group of brats and say that you're with them

I know, but unfortunately while the lunatics are in charge of the asylum then that's the way it will be. Always good to have the opportunity to remind people of Jason Crump & friends Tell us which forecast, looks one to avoid in future!

Not much change in Panthers 1999 Elite League Champions,

Two full sides of each team's own riders would be news these days. Usually work fine for me. They do change throughout the day but so does the weather. It's already looking better than it was so think that they will probably get away with this.

Didn't understand that either, and without knowing the detail, but for the falls and exclusion (and what sounds like a heat 15 easy get out home decision by the ref?) then we would probably have still nicked this.

I don't know about closet Rockets fan but he's doing a very good impression of Panthers King Canute

Well based on the rest of the post I'd tend to agree.

That's very true; so to get back on track, remind us what happend and remind us that this thread is not about Lambert, only in respect of his match winning performance: Newcastle Diamonds = 44 1. Lewis Kerr - 2 , F/X , 2 , 0 = 4 2. Anton Rosen - 0 , 3 , 2 , 0 = 5 3. Steve Worrall - 3 , 2 , 2 , 3 , 3 = 13 4. Christian Henry - 2' , 0 , 1' , 2' = 5+3 5. Ludvig Lindgren - 0 , 2 , 3 , 1 , 1 = 7 6. Simon Nielsen - 3 , 0 , 1 , 3 = 7 7. Lewis Rose - 2' , 1 , 0 , 0 , = 3+1 Peterborough Panthers = 46 1. Ben Barker (Guest) - 3 , 1 , 2 , 2' = 8+1 2. R/R for Lewis Blackbird - (SL - 1 , MPT - 3 , RL - 3 , SL - 0 = 7) 3. Robert Lambert - 1 , 3 , 3 , 3 , 2 , 2 = 14 4. Michael Palm Toft - 0 , 3 , 1 , 1 , F/X = 5 5. Ulrich Ostergaard - 2' , 2 , 3 , 3 , 0 = 10+1 6. Oliver Greenwood - 1 , 1' , 0 , (SL - 1') , 1 = 3+1 7. Simon Lambert - 1 , R , 3 , 1 , 0 , 1' , F/(OG - 1) = 6+1 (Withdrawn) speedwayupdates/newcastle-peterborough

zonkers liked your post, that's made my day already. I can't really compete with an ex "Panthers fan's viewpoint" (you'll need the programme or access to WWoS to get that) - I attend but am a pretender fan whereas the voice of experience last visited the EoES when? (since you mention closure, which is part due to lack of fan numbers) Certainly wasn't Friday so I can appreciate why she is empathetic to Lambert; although to you I don't understand Sorry for having a dig zonkers but it was self inficted

This is our own thread according to the title. If it was Panthers fans on a Newcastle v someone else thread then you'd have a case.

Apparently the FIM gave the Newcastle fans 24 hours after the meeting to recover from their team's defeat and they took the option

What, you mean pretender fans who've been going to Peterborough for twice as long as Lambert has been on this planet! Which one of us will be going to the EoES regularly in future years? I may moan but it's done in the best possible taste. It's not my fault that people don't listen. Nice tangent to the emotive to move away from the main topic to temp the "Like This" brigade

Hardly a sacking offence is it? Tempers run high as we see all too often on the box. Pedersen & Batchelor were split up in 2011. Oh to have been standing close to the fence when they came back in. "you are not aware of the full facts so i'd keep quiet until such time you are in possession of them." So those are the argument winning facts that Rodders wasn't aware of? Well that's cleared that up then: no case to answer! I would agree that but for the result it might not have been such an issue but King & Manzares turning up made sure that it became one, and Lambert needing to lose the Timeform availabilty squiggle for Panthers doesn't help.

They played that game long before Swales was promoter. Even though I'd never get a Christmas card from Swales, I'll have to defend him on that point. Our PR is pretty good under Swales & Rathbone so I'd look further back, but when did speedway, or anything much these days come to that, give you the full facts. An ex-promoter said to me that it's not what you say but the way that you say it. I think both elements need to be correct and that applies to fans, management, riders, advisors et al, as the last week has shown.

"No I am not close to the Lambert camp, I am just the run of the mill Kings Lynn and Peterborough supporter." Really? I don't think you'd pass the entry exam on the Panthers supporters Facebook page.

Now having a pop at me I can appreciate as I'm not the most diplomatic but when Noodles also thinks that you're a dick then that says much Lambert will do what his advisors tell him to do (he'll grow his own mind as the years progress) and Panthers promotion will not publicly rubbish arguably their best rider. It has nothing to do with moving on, neither party wants to pour petrol on the fire to reignite it although it'll be smouldering away for as long as Lambert is a Panther ie. for the rest of 2015,

He makes a valid point and is quite entitled to make it. It's not his fault that he doesn't know the full facts as you put it. So come on Einstein, what doesn't he know?

The don't bother about such technical detail in Norfolk!

Nice day for fishing isn't it.

My thoughts are that he signed up to ride for Panthers and that's what he should do unless he has a bloody good reason. A Raheem Sterling type excuse does not change much although it might have been more acceptable if it was a one off and his fellow SWC competitors had not managed to return without too much trouble as you say. Once the decision was taken then the water coming in was always going to be greater than the size of the bucket bailing it out. Lambert has Panthers management by the gonads but the team is better off with him than without, that's common sense and everyone knows it, hence the charm offensive: "PETERBOROUGH promoter Ged Rathbone hailed the returning Robert Lambert" - I don't know whether he'll learn from this but I doubt that he'll be riding in the UK in a few years so will probably just ride through any stick he gets. A question to you: would Lambert have needed a reason if Kings Lynn were riding a Saddlebow Road on Friday evening? When he got criticism for missing a Panthers meeting while being ill and riding in Germany, didn't his mum get all defensive on Facebook (apologies if my memory is crap) and say let's see how we feel if he is selected for Team GB & misses Panthers meetings? Well it was only one but she has her answer!

That dissapointing Dick. There must be a reduction for having some green on your leathers and also for not signing for Ipswich or Workington? The unwritten rule kicked in on June 1 allegedly, so with a point for each, let's call it 5.00

I've no idea is the answer. I don't do averages and just turn up these days if there's nothing else on. I lost the really enthusiastic part of me in October 2013 whereby I might know such things. He looked good on his own though but many do!

Is that a trick question