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Well done to both Teams in extremely difficult conditions, wet & slippy Track, the Grand Final is set up for a tight 2nd leg, The Tigers threw points away for fun in the early Heats, with falls by Garrity & Bates when leading comfortably, then The Heathens were hit hard with the loss of Tom Perry with a suspected Broken Scaphoid, however Darryl Ritchings stepped up to the plate with 14 points from 7 rides, and Joe Jacobs led The Tigers resistance with 13 points, Will it be enough ?? it could well be, and i would say, we are slight favourites at even money, Mildenhall 5/4 against, but with Garrity, Nielsen,Jacobs, supported by Halsey and Bates, this Title is still there for the taking. 2nd Half still to come.

Yep, i agree wholeheartedly, 21st thats why i get frustrated when people keep saying The Heathens are favourites, it will come down to whohandles the conditions best, and who wants it most.

All this about The Heathens being favourites is absolute nonsense, Garrity, Nielsen, Jacobs are all at the TOP of there form, Halsey is an hot and cold rider, never know what you are going to get, Bates hopefully fully fit is a great prospect, and Terry-Daley is about the same as Jww. The Heathens Roynon, Perry, Morris the later two are not such good gaters as your guys, Greenwood not gating as well as earlier in the season,and Ritchings same applies to him as to Halsey, but from race to race. This is tooo close to call, there are no favourites now, it will be on THE night, I will be surprised if there are 10 points in this overall after the 2 legs.

So are you saying he isnt going to be beat ?

Thanks Phil, now as you all are aware, i have always said Mildenhall are favourites, this completely changes things around, because Kings Lynn will suit some of the Heathens riders much more than Mildenhall does, definately Tom Perry will for one, so now i will say there are NO favourites, and its either Teams to win, havent been to KL for about 20 years, that was on a lovely sunny sunday afternoon, i guess this will be a lot different .

Keeping a weather watch, we have had some miserable drizzly overnight wet stuff, but it is forecast to be dry but damp for the rest of the day and tomorrow, though dull and overcast, so looks though not great, at least damp, and dull, probably more chance of it getting Fogged off. http://www.myweather...rse.aspx?sday=1

You could get the Tram from Snow Hill Station Birmingham, to Wolverhampton, this runs very close to Sutherland Avenue, <Monmore> and drops you off, about a 2 minute walk to the stadium, I would think this is your best public Transport option, failing that, if you can get to Dudley, i would gladly give you a lift, hope this helps. The link below gives you nearly all the public transport info, you will nead. http://www.networkwe.../tramtimes.aspx

Whats the averages against each other ??, and NO we are not at full strength, we to are using RR for Byron Bekker, You are better gaters, and i think 1 or 2 of our riders are just short of Top Form, where as most of your riders are on it, right now, especially Stefan, and JJ, Garrity just loves to whip Heathens asses, always has, and in young Josh, what a prospect.

Ok guys come on lets be having your thoughts on this one, 1st of all its 30 Heats for 15 quid, and probably some Fireworks On and Off Track. The Heathens ARE The underdogs Definately for the Overall score, However with Roynon, Perry, Garrity and Nielsen there will be some keenly fought racing guaranteed, added to this the never say die efforts of Morris, Greenwood and Ritchings for the Heathens and Jacobs, Bates and Halsey, then i think there will be thrills and spills in almost every race, if you are in the area, get yourself along to Monmore Wood on Tuesday evening, where you will see some of the best British Talent out on Track, advert over, what do i think ??. Dudley will have to be at there very best to take a home win in the 1st leg which i expect them to do, but probably only by a slender margin, no more than 6 points. Tacticals by Garrity, Nielsen and Co will ensure it will be NO more than that, if the Gremlins Hit ANY Heathens rider, then The Tigers will sneak an away win, The Heathens need to have there Gating Gear on, because IMO this is the biggest difference between the Two Teams. Good luck, lets put the animosity to bed, and lets see Two wonderfull meetings.

They are more interesting then some of your ridiculous posts, try supporting a young British rider instead of MJJ. or is Glory hunting you prefer.

Its surely not a matter of assets, can one put a value on the fact that the arena has PP, yes maybe the lease only has another 2 years to run, but the biggest asset has to be the existing Planning permission, just ask Trelawny, Exeter, Weymouth, Bristol, they are all struggling to find new locations after years of trying, I am sure an agreement can be reached amicably, perhaps with MB remaining in a Honorary capacity, in recognition of his past efforts.

If Lakeside or any other Team for that matter want to sign young riders, then enter a Team in the NL, dont just talk about it, do it.

Nice to see Young Adam Ellis in the 2013 Team.

Two things i suggested prior to the start of 2012 season, one was that we enter the NT Trophy, two was that we enter a Team in the Amateur League, The first was not entered due to the lack of dates, the second was not entered for whatever reason, Dudley cannot now say it was because we dont have time to ride 6 Heats after a NL meeting, because we now have a two meetings of 15 heats on the 23rd.

It has now been confirmed, that should Mildenhall Qualify for The Play Off final,, the 2nd Leg will be held at Mildenhall On Wednesday 24th.

Sad to say there seems a general lack of interest, full stop, if you notice even for The Stoke V Dudley 2nd leg P Off,s i tagged it on to the 1st Leg at Dudley, cuz no one had started a Topic. , seems the season is going out with a whimper, rather than a bang, the dreaded rain offs seem never ending.

As I said earlier, Mildenhall won and won well, Please lets draw a line under this now, and look forward to more Speedway racing, The Tigers are going for a White Wash of major Trophies, theres only 2 teams Now that can stop them, IOW and The Heathens, Bring it on,.as i have said previously THEY are The Favourites, they have proven this pretty conclusively recently., WHY because there riders have improved more than the Heathens riders have, and AR and BB,s injury, have proven costly, but we can cover that just about, but any other injuries and we are out of contention.

Another thing i would like to say about last night, was a big Thank you for Stoke on keeping the meeting running smoothly throughout, No long breaks between races, and this made it a thoroughly enjoyable evenings racing, I could see the disapointment on Dave Tatums face, but hey you had a few bob off us Heathens Fans to make up for it Dave, and i am sure you will be up there next season, and it was nice to see both Worralls in the pits, they look to be well on the road to recovery, along with Byron, who was hopping around and geeing up and offering support to the Heathens riders, especially the less experienced ones, along with Jan O giving words of advice both before and after every race, he would probably do it during the race as well if he could find a way. Finally what can i say about the support, absolutely fan bloody tastic, we must be the "Barmy Army" of the Black Country, great to see "Porky" up and in there with us from time to time, would be nice to see Patch and CVS come in amongst us know and then.This attitude of seeming aloof from the supporters has to be shaken off, we all P*ss in the same Pot and They are no different, bcuz not only do they need to realise that without US they wouldnt be there, but also SHOW that they appreciate the support as well as the riders do. Finally commiserations to Stoke, and a BIG well done to our guys.

And The IOW will get through . Then it will be a Thursday,but plz keep the Fog away, cuz The Heathens ride Tuesday and announced The Finals will be on Tuesday 23rd Double Header with 2nd Leg of KO Cup.

Well, Well, Stoke 41 The Heathens 54, which sees us through to the Play Off Finals, well done to all the lads, Lets hope we can have sensible discussions about Final dates,already NP has said the Heathens will stage there leg on Tuesday 23rd as a Double header with the 2nd leg of the KO Cup final, should be a Blockbuster.

Hahaha, thanks for the reply, you wer,nt the only one who was/is frustrated last night, i wont comment on individual riders at this moment in time, i said my piece at the start of the season, got vilified for it by some Heathens fans, but i have held my tongue on it since the season started, but suffice to say, we changed our reserves last season, when they were not doing it, but this year we have stuck with them, even though its been apparent to most where our weakness was/is . Anyways on to tonight, It needs Joe to take care of AB, no reason why he cant, Tom to do what Tom does best, Ash to cancel out JC, and that gives us 36 points, thats from 5 rides from all of them, thats very do-able, we need another 9/10 more points from Dan, Darryl and the 2nd reserve, now bearing in mind both of Stokes reserves have been primarily Amateur League riders this season, 5 points should be there for the taking in Ht 2, which just leaves 4/5 points more from the 10 remaining rides of Dan, Darryl and the 2nd reserve, is it possible Yes of course it is, because except for Ashley Birks, rider for rider, we are the stronger team.

As your name says, when are you going to grow up :lol: look back over many postings, and see if i have EVER agreed with Play Offs, give me a sound arguement in favour, except for saying a bigger than usual crowd. I will be up at Stoke tonight weather permitting, will you be watching YOUR Team in the Play Offs ?.

Hopefully, if they get through in the 2nd leg, they CAN win the Play Offs,this will then show the Play Offs for what they are a FALSE ending to a seasons racing, and i mean that with No dis respect to Stoke.

Mate; 95% of the fans were amazed by the choice of Stoke over IOW, what the managements thinking behind it was, i cant fathom out, for me IOW was the easier of the Teams, which would have left Mildenhall, with a tougher Team to beat in having Stoke, instead we choose the Tougher fixture, leaving Mildenhall the easier one.

Well, it was unexpected if not entirely surprising, this is the problem when using RR, all the remaining riders have to be on it, and that combined with falls and ef,s meant Stoke held the deficit to just the 1 point, Stoke were admireably led by Ashley Birks, with good support from James Cockle, Ben Reade, Tony Aitkin, and a most impressive, surprising, and i would admit unexpected 7 points from Lee Geary, well done to the lad, staying on the bike is half the battle. For the Heathens we were basically a 3 man Team led superbly by Tom Perry, and supported to varying degrees by Ashley Morris and Darryll Ritchings, though both of them had EF,s when in winning positions, ashes was at the gate, but it was his easiest programmed race, Joe was slightly disapointing at No1 six points aint good enough, Dan Greenwood had a night he will want to forget, whilst JWW was shall we say JWW. Well done to Stoke, and they should be able to finish the job off in the return leg, especially if The Heathens have to use RR, and JWW is unable to ride. Berniev, s various comments; i dont agree with the waste of a season ticket comment, or where he is coming from with the "Do the management really care" thingy ??, and as for the "We havent got the nights to make a go of it in any League" statement then thats news for many of us, maybe he cares to explain his/her thoughts on what was posted. Yes we do seem to have imploded at the death, but that was partly due to injuries again at the wrong time, and Adams loss cant be underestimated, not just from his points scoring perspective, but the Captains role he does so well for us.No It aint over until The Fat lady sings, but she has certainly cleared her throat over the last Two meetings.