IainB

Or a Craven Shield or something?

I think it certainly makes him a better sportsman... Which is what we're discussing here, to suggest that Holder is not as good after Wards injury just to me suggests that Tai is better at what he does than Holder is and don't forget he had to deal with the death of his father

... And loads of time to promote the league's biggest 2 meetings of the year!

How about alternating it each year... 1 year it's winners of the play offs that are champions the next year it's the winners of the league and have no play offs. I'm not even sure myself if I'm serious with this one

That bar is not very high

And to suggest that Holder is better than Woffinden but no longer in his way because of Wards terrible injury is ridiculous. Woffinden was also no doubt effected, as were many others, but had the mental strength to carry on and manage his mind in pursuit of his goals, unlike Holder, whether Wards injury effected him that much is obviously just an opinion. This in my mind just makes Woffy better than Holder, as the record books will testify

I think there's a ridiculously simple solution to that though

I don't know why they get so precious about 31st of October now then?

I agree there should be a cut off but end of August is far too soon

There's always an excuse... Forget it then, I ain't going to the cricket!

Better get ready for @PboroPanthers meeting away to Lakeside tonighthttps://t.co/xtu5M3n6wf

Yes they did... Never saw Tom Cruise at Monmore Green though

That's right... I always get mixed up between that and Dianetics... Which I think Rob Pfetzing was involved with

No... But it's nice to dream and it gives some posters an opportunity to write massive long "blueprints for the future" posts to waste everybody's time

As long as he told the promotion when he signed all is good

There's a thread in general discussions about this... With some great memories... And as yet, no arguments!

It kind of sums Speedway up in a nutshell really... Even with a blank canvas they managed to balls it up

It's happened before, why wouldn't it happen again... I seem to remember a competition final taking place at Coventry on November the 1st in the past, think it was a Sunday afternoon... And didn't Oxford and CH share the cup for 6 months each back in the 80's because they couldn't get their fixtures done? Or am I imagining that/both

Probably, I have zero interest in doing anything about it though... A reasonably priced ticket and maybe a free pint and a burger or something could get me thinking about going along

Well that's even worse then, I don't know who's mugged off the fans more... Though some fans don't seem to mind being mugged off by the riders or the promotion

Just wait until after Brexit

I think Loram gets an undeservedly hard time as everybody throws the not winning a GP in his title winning year stat into any argument you out forward for him... Don't forget he did win his world title bang in the middle of the TRick era

You'd like to hope so wouldn't you

No, not only did he not dominate the qualifiers he had a far easier passage to the final than riders of other era's. Still a great great rider, don't get me wrong, you don't win a world championship without being a great rider... Just nowhere near as good as Tai, like I said in an earlier post I compare PC more to the likes of Mark Loram

I think what you meant to say was... Yes he did elect to have an operation knowing he would miss important matches and yes I'd love to know when he booked his holidays