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I haven't bought a programme for years and was totally unaware of the "new" refund rules... does the heat 6 rule not apply anymore?

That's funny because that's what was happening at KL last night... All the fans were herding out of the stadium

The point is it was all so avoidable... but that doesn't seem to bother you all the way up there on the moral high ground. Just because a rider gets injured that doesn't make it OK for the promoter to mug the punters off

It's ok it being a holding area if the county ambulance arrives within minutes, you couldn't expect an injured rider to wait there for 3 hours, as they didn't... that's when a lack of on site ambulances is a problem

we don't "need" to call them Wolverhampton Heathens... you can call them what you like, it would be a more accurate description though

Chapman hasn't even addressed the events of last night at KL, so what hope for the rest of the sport? What's the thinking behind the withdrawal of Friday's for these clubs, any ideas?

"8.2 The minimum Personnel and Facilities required at a Speedway Meeting (including an Amateur Meeting) are: one (1) Medical Officer one (1) Ambulance with a Driver and Attendant one (1) Medical Treatment Facility four (4) First Aid Staff The minimum Personnel and Facilities required at a Training Session (but not one that also includes a Meeting of any sort) is one (1) Medical Treatment Facility plus 2 First Aid Staff. 8.2.1 The Medical Treatment facility may be a 2 nd fully equipped Ambulance or a designated Medical Room, with good access, is well lit, dry, windproof and heated with curtains or similar at all windows, has a chair/couch or similar, a supply of basic medical equipment and facilities for hand washing with hot and cold water. NB. If this is a 2 nd Ambulance appropriately qualified persons must be available to supervise a casualty" So KL doing the bare minimum?

At least it's nice to see a short apology on the website, just a few sentences explaining what happened and a sorry for those fans that left well before the end and have no doubt hit the website looking for an apology/explanation... Oh that's right... absolutely nothing... you reap what you sew

Cynical

Don't think I said "must" I'd be interested to know why you think it's Coventry Bees (other than in name only) and how you're identifying with them

The problem is that it's called Coventry... which is an insult to many. Why not call it Beaumont Bees?

I think some people just find what Horton is doing is in bad taste. I don't live in the Cov area so don't know what he's doing to get a return to Cov. Compare with CH and over the years they have been pretty active in trying to secure a return to the Dudley area for their team, has Horton?

It ain't Cov though is it... you may as well call them the Timbuktu Tigers

I have been to 2 matches this season where there has been inadequate medical cover to keep the meeting running. Peterborough a few weeks ago and KL last night. Are there any rules as regards medical cover or is it up to each club to do what they see fit? What does your club do? When I was having a moan on the Peterborough thread about the lack of a second ambulance Neil Watson came on to correct me that there was a second ambulance but it was the paramedics decision to call a county ambulance. I wonder why that was? Were the ambulances in attendance inadequate? Did the paramedic have to stay with the injured rider? Was there only one paramedic in attendance? Should there be 2? At KL last night, only 1 ambulance in attendance, they had to ring around to try and get another one out after it was discovered that the county ambulance was going to take 3 hours to get there. Anybody that has ever had to call an ambulance these days knows that the days of them turning up within minutes are long gone. I've been going to Speedway for 40 years now and have been to many many tracks where ambulances have had to take injured riders off to hospital, sometimes the meeting continues as there is adequate provision in place for it to do so and other times there has been a massive delay with disgruntled fans streaming away vowing never to return... It does seem a bit of a lottery

So I decided to go to this against my better judgement having attended the KOC match back in May, I thought surely this won't take as long to run as that did (2hrs 10mins for 15 races)... how about 2hrs 45mins for 6 races. But it was a nice day and I spent the late afternoon having a look around KL old town, which is very nice if you've never been, quite a surprise. Then the Speedway... The 2 minutes go on for heat 1... and is then cancelled, somebody's trying to play the sun delay card (not sure if it was the riders or the ref?), fortunately that was ignored until it became a real problem.... here we go I thought, it's going to be another one of those nights. Then we had the first accident, I'm not going to get into that as obviously no one wants that to happen and we all obviously wish both the riders involved the very best but... guess what? This is Speedway, incidents like this are always going to happen sooner or later, what you can do as a Speedway promotion is to have a workable plan for when this does happen. The obvious plan is to have 2 ambulances/medical teams in attendance, problem solved, the match can continue. To have one ambulance/medical team in attendance is risky, to then call an ambulance and expect it to turn up on demand in this day and age is, unfortunately, unrealistic. The ambulance has to go off to hospital, so what do you do then? Well they could have had a backup arranged maybe? Maybe have arranged for a private ambulance firm to be "on call" rather than in attendance. Call the meeting off, knowing that by the time that the ambulance had actually left the track it was going to be unrealistic for the match to be concluded... No what we got was 2 hours of music only to be interspersed for the first hour with announcements of we can't tell you anything and we can't interview the riders. In today's day and age this is totally unacceptable. As I mentioned above we live in an information age, people crave information, it's easier than ever to give it and get it (unless you're a Rye House fan!). I'm by nature a very cynical man these days as far as Speedway is concerned and part of me is thinking they were going to do anything to get heat 6 out of the way, I hope I'm proved wrong on this, but at best I only half expect a fiver reduction on production of last nights ticket. Well full re-admission or a fiver off, that's me and KL Speedway through! I shall not be returning again!

I've been to a number of these "one offs" over the years The fans were informed but not nearly as much as they should have been in a delay of over 2 hours! We live in an information age, it's not acceptable to just stick music on anymore, it's easier than ever to get and give information (perhaps not give information at KL with the ridiculous situation with the mic!) A cynical person may say it was more to do with getting heat 6 over and done with but I wait to be proven wrong by that They could have had 2 medical teams available... like many, many tracks have done throughout the years I've been watching Speedway. Motorsports are dangerous and this situation is always possible, as a promoter you've got to weigh up the potential disgruntlement of fans against the cost of a 2nd medical unit. I wonder if this would have happened at a televised meeting? who decided to only have one medical team? the mic was a joke

All of a sudden there are 2 ambulances on the track... About 3 hours too late, it's just comical now

It's a good job they did wait for the ambulance to return add it's out on the track again... As the rest of the crowd leaves

What's gone wrong is that the NHS is broken and it was going to take 3 hours for an ambulance to arrive

I don't know why they don't just call this off... Half the crowd has gone home feeling mugged off, cancel it, restage it, re-admit free

Coming to Speedway and King's Lynn Speedway especially is like buying a national lottery ticket... Invariably you lose but occasionally just occasionally you're a winner. Tonight as usual I'm a loser... Why do tracks run with one ambulance? It seems running r/r so often has now been extended to ambulances add to that a total lack of information for around 45 minutes and then when there is info and interviews the mic keeps pushing up it's no wonder people are streaming out of the stadium! And all this at the home of the tractor driver that's running the sport. 21:50 I'm still here still playing the lottery ATB to Lewis

Not enough riders Don't forget BV! You'll have your work cut out reporting on this and the goings on at Cov! Another postponement with no reason given... Just like Rye

Has Mick sold all of his assets off yet?

http://www.edp24.co.uk/sport/king-s-lynn-stars-1-5589186

And the fans lol... self cleaning shale, what a brilliant idea! Glasgow? Hot day? Cannot compute!