Garritty

[GeneralMelchett]

38 minutes ago, RS50 said:

As far as I am aware, speedway riders are self employed. If speedway was the cause of what he did, how come every other rider has not done the same.

This is an attempt at vicarious negligence or something similar, the fact is his contract would have been between himself and his club(s) so I am not convinced British Speedway would be the one to have to deal with it, unless they knew that multiple riders had issues and decided to do nothing about it.

Of course we have no idea if he was offered / given help or not.

[FAST GATER]

6 hours ago, GeneralMelchett said:

It isn't per se but at the same time if you have a 'trade' and this is one of thw ways you can earn a living then if someone is wanting to take a chance on him then he should be allowed to!

Having locked him up and he served his time he needs to do something with the rest of his life, given he would have to declare his conviction etc many companies wouldn't take a chnace on him (entirely their choice by the way) - if he was prepared to retrain then companies such as Timpsons might well give him a go! 

Frankly as a tax payer I want him out there paying something back into the system rather than us footing he bill for him for the next 40 years!

Good post.

The point I have been trying to make is his "rehab " starts now ,being gainful employed  and occupied as much of the time as possible is the best chance he has of making a fist of it .By all means he should  be encouraged to show some of form  remorse for his appalling crime /crimes and demonstate his wish to become a asset to society .   

To be clear I consider his situation to be totally HIS  own making but that isn't to say we pehaps should not give him the opportunity to put things right .

Edited Saturday at 09:45 PM by FAST GATER

[GeneralMelchett]

3 hours ago, FAST GATER said:

Good post.

The point I have been trying to make is his "rehab " starts now ,being gainful employed  and occupied as much of the time as possible is the best chance he has of making a fist of it .By all means he should  be encouraged to show some of form  remorse for his appalling crime /crimes and demonstate he wish to become a asset to society .   

To be clear I consider his situation to be totally HIS  own making but that isn't to say we pehaps should not give him the opportunity to put things right .

I read his interview in the star, he says is is truly sorry for what he did, he also says that if he could apologise to the people directly he would, this suggets maybe it isn't possible for whatever reason.

[Ben91]

The state of the sport makes this a quite exceptional case. If he were a footballer and he wanted to return to playing there would be a club somewhere that would overlook his off pitch discretions for the sake of having his talent on the pitch. Even if that meant dropping way down the leagues initially. If he were a snooker or darts player etc. he couldn't be stopped from earning a tour card and working his way back up the rankings. Speedway clubs are all in a pretty precarious position, it would be an immense gamble for anyone to take him on. 

He has done his time. Hopefully he has turned his life around and can contribute positively to society. I don't think that'll come astride a speedway bike. 

[Pinny]

6 hours ago, GeneralMelchett said:

To my mind Shawn was allowed one shot at redemption and ****** it up - Garrity has to have that chance!

Garrity was released on license and ended up back inside. So that should answer that. 
 

Regarding the poster who asked if anyone making these comments would say them to Garritys face, I absolutely would. 
 

 

[WookieboyDon]

11 hours ago, JamesHarris said:

Has Garritty publicly apologized for his wrongdoings and admitted he was not the nicest of human beings? A very good talented rider back in the day. Probably carries too much negative baggage now and I doubt sponsors would want to be associated with him. 

How many of the ones on here though making very negative comments about him would be brave enough to say it to his face - just saying.  

Absolutely would. Wouldn’t have any issue doing that whatsoever. 

[GeneralMelchett]

17 hours ago, Pinny said:

Garrity was released on license and ended up back inside. So that should answer that. 
 

Regarding the poster who asked if anyone making these comments would say them to Garritys face, I absolutely would. 
 

 

Well I am not really convinced it does for me, as his recall suggested (assuming everything posted previously on this thread was either true and posted in good faith) that it was either for a punch up whilst out on licence or he was beaten up by his old cronies whilst out. Had he say gone out robbing the elderly again i might be inclined to say yes and that there shoud be no 2nd chance. 

 

re your 2nd point agreed we should always be preared to say to someones face what we either say behind their back or when they are not present.

Edited Sunday at 02:31 PM by GeneralMelchett

[mac101]

He was out on bail with a ankle tag which will monitor his  movements and they are not usually allowed out after a certain time at night and would have to be in his place of residence every night but he said he  was caught  at a girls friends house so broke bail conditions so was taken back to do his full sentence 

[FAST GATER]

23 hours ago, Ben91 said:

I don't think that'll come astride a speedway bike. 

IMO that's the  best chance he has ,his rehab starts now whether he chooses to take it will be down to him if he gets a team place and you not happy with his inclusion vote with your feet !

Edited Sunday at 08:21 PM by FAST GATER

[Pinny]

7 hours ago, GeneralMelchett said:

Well I am not really convinced it does for me, as his recall suggested (assuming everything posted previously on this thread was either true and posted in good faith) that it was either for a punch up whilst out on licence or he was beaten up by his old cronies whilst out. Had he say gone out robbing the elderly again i might be inclined to say yes and that there shoud be no 2nd chance. 

 

re your 2nd point agreed we should always be preared to say to someones face what we either say behind their back or when they are not present.

If you are let out on license and get recalled, you have broken your license conditions. I would hazard a guess that the majority of prisoners who breach license conditions and get recalled end up committing more crimes once serving the full sentence and get recalled.

It would be great to log on here in 10 years and see that he has not re offended, is clean and kept his nose clean and relaunched a decent career. But we all know the chance of that is about as likely as seeing Craig Cook crowned world champion. Garrity was well known to be a lowlife well over 10 years ago and the stories of his off track antics were circulating when he came on the scene in the old National League/Conference League (Buxton?). Any promoter taking a chance on him deserves any flack they get.

 

[GeneralMelchett]

8 hours ago, Pinny said:

If you are let out on license and get recalled, you have broken your license conditions. I would hazard a guess that the majority of prisoners who breach license conditions and get recalled end up committing more crimes once serving the full sentence and get recalled.

It would be great to log on here in 10 years and see that he has not re offended, is clean and kept his nose clean and relaunched a decent career. But we all know the chance of that is about as likely as seeing Craig Cook crowned world champion. Garrity was well known to be a lowlife well over 10 years ago and the stories of his off track antics were circulating when he came on the scene in the old National League/Conference League (Buxton?). Any promoter taking a chance on him deserves any flack they get.

 

Yes I am aware of what out licence means etc - Given his breaches I do not think they are enough to write him off as a lost cause (just yet!) it’s worth noting that his recall still didn’t see him serve the full remainder of his sentence / otherwise he’d be in til 2027! Like I said had he gone out robbing the elderly again I’d be happy to say enough get back inside and don’t come out! 

what he did was truly despicable particularly targeting elderly and vulnerable and I had also recall having chats with people at Owlerton about him with Sheffield fans at the time they were crowing about how good he was in the 2016 season and I said Robert Lambert was a better long term prospect after their match V Newcastle due to him being a wrong un etc -I even have said on here where is Garrity now as an example of how he’d fallen and Lambert had gone in to great things.  I know he is a low life and maybe in just 5 years you will be on here saying ‘I told you so’  but that doesn’t mean he doesn’t get one chance to try and get his life on track! 

You should read up on a guy called David Martindale. 

[PersonalResponsibility]

On 1/3/2026 at 12:05 PM, THE DEAN MACHINE said:

Im sort of sat on the fence on this one, Jason is a massive talent on a speedway bike and if a club signs him they will get a real racer but I also understand people saying they can’t forgive him and don’t want him anywhere need speedway, Jason’s crime are clearly motivated by money or the lack of it and fueled by drugs and realistically speedway is his only chance of sorting his life out but speedway doesn’t owe anybody anything least of all Jason but if he doesn’t get a chance then imo he will be back inside before long and we could be the next victim, I’ve said it before I got on well with Jason and always found him very personable but I also saw the other side of him,as I said I’m on the fence on this one, if he gets a chance then I’m happy to pay to watch him race but if speedway says no because of the fans reaction then imo he will also happy because keeping the fans happy is what the sport is about 

I'm also on the fence about it, because like you say, speedway is his only real hope of getting back on the straight and narrow. He ain't going to stay straight working in Poundland, let's be real. However, you can point to the fact that he was banged up while being a speedway rider, so how many chances do you give someone?

[Fromafar]

13 minutes ago, PersonalResponsibility said:

I'm also on the fence about it, because like you say, speedway is his only real hope of getting back on the straight and narrow. He ain't going to stay straight working in Poundland, let's be real. However, you can point to the fact that he was banged up while being a speedway rider, so how many chances do you give someone?

It doesn’t say much about him when you say he ain’t going to stay straight working in Poundland.Why not?

[PersonalResponsibility]

3 hours ago, Fromafar said:

It doesn’t say much about him when you say he ain’t going to stay straight working in Poundland.Why not?

Just a hunch, he doesn't strike me as that type of person judging by his past. I think speedway offers the best route as it's probably the one thing he's good at. I'm pleased he won't be signing for my club either way.

[Fromafar]

1 hour ago, PersonalResponsibility said:

Just a hunch, he doesn't strike me as that type of person judging by his past. I think speedway offers the best route as it's probably the one thing he's good at. I'm pleased he won't be signing for my club either way.

Would be my hunch too.

[Wee Eck]

8 hours ago, GeneralMelchett said:

Yes I am aware of what out licence means etc - Given his breaches I do not think they are enough to write him off as a lost cause (just yet!) it’s worth noting that his recall still didn’t see him serve the full remainder of his sentence / otherwise he’d be in til 2027! Like I said had he gone out robbing the elderly again I’d be happy to say enough get back inside and don’t come out! 

what he did was truly despicable particularly targeting elderly and vulnerable and I had also recall having chats with people at Owlerton about him with Sheffield fans at the time they were crowing about how good he was in the 2016 season and I said Robert Lambert was a better long term prospect after their match V Newcastle due to him being a wrong un etc -I even have said on here where is Garrity now as an example of how he’d fallen and Lambert had gone in to great things.  I know he is a low life and maybe in just 5 years you will be on here saying ‘I told you so’  but that doesn’t mean he doesn’t get one chance to try and get his life on track! 

You should read up on a guy called David Martindale. 

I agree with much of what you say but don’t see the Martindale connection. Martindale was just an occasional footballer but made his living away from the game and was convicted of drug offences and money laundering. It looks like, on his release from prison, he turned his back on his criminal past but it was something like 6 years after his release before he obtained a paid position in football having regained the trust of some people but not all, especially Scottish football’s governing body who took another five years before they were willing to accept he was “fit and proper” to be an official. 
Garritty was convicted of robbery with violence. I don’t see anything - though I might be wrong - of there being any conviction for possession or dealing. 
Prior to his imprisonment, Garritty made his living from sport, Martindale didn’t. Garritty is looking to be re-employed as a sportsman straight away. Martindale had to wait many years and then only in the capacity of an official. 
Yes, Martindale proves criminals can be rehabilitated and all credit to him for what he has achieved. Those that know recognise that Garritty has had many many “second chances” and so far taken none of them. The last one was being released on licence last year which didn’t last long. Why should any club be expected to give him another chance? Let him do a Martindale - get a job, prove you’ve changed, then someone might think he still has a value within speedway. 

[GeneralMelchett]

3 minutes ago, Wee Eck said:

I agree with much of what you say but don’t see the Martindale connection. Martindale was just an occasional footballer but made his living away from the game and was convicted of drug offences and money laundering. It looks like, on his release from prison, he turned his back on his criminal past but it was something like 6 years after his release before he obtained a paid position in football having regained the trust of some people but not all, especially Scottish football’s governing body who took another five years before they were willing to accept he was “fit and proper” to be an official. 
Garritty was convicted of robbery with violence. I don’t see anything - though I might be wrong - of there being any conviction for possession or dealing. 
Prior to his imprisonment, Garritty made his living from sport, Martindale didn’t. Garritty is looking to be re-employed as a sportsman straight away. Martindale had to wait many years and then only in the capacity of an official. 
Yes, Martindale proves criminals can be rehabilitated and all credit to him for what he has achieved. Those that know recognise that Garritty has had many many “second chances” and so far taken none of them. The last one was being released on licence last year which didn’t last long. Why should any club be expected to give him another chance? Let him do a Martindale - get a job, prove you’ve changed, then someone might think he still has a value within speedway. 

well the connection was that you can go on and make something of yourself despite a crimninal past! It maybe a tough long hard road but it can be done!. I wasn't connecting it to sport so perhaos a abetter example might have been used but Martindale was one of the few i could think of!

[Pinny]

22 hours ago, GeneralMelchett said:

Yes I am aware of what out licence means etc - Given his breaches I do not think they are enough to write him off as a lost cause (just yet!) it’s worth noting that his recall still didn’t see him serve the full remainder of his sentence / otherwise he’d be in til 2027! Like I said had he gone out robbing the elderly again I’d be happy to say enough get back inside and don’t come out! 

what he did was truly despicable particularly targeting elderly and vulnerable and I had also recall having chats with people at Owlerton about him with Sheffield fans at the time they were crowing about how good he was in the 2016 season and I said Robert Lambert was a better long term prospect after their match V Newcastle due to him being a wrong un etc -I even have said on here where is Garrity now as an example of how he’d fallen and Lambert had gone in to great things.  I know he is a low life and maybe in just 5 years you will be on here saying ‘I told you so’  but that doesn’t mean he doesn’t get one chance to try and get his life on track! 

You should read up on a guy called David Martindale. 

The first thing you should do when released from prison is keep your nose clean and head down. He didn't and he got recalled. So straight away he has had a second chance at life and fcuked that up.

 

[GeneralMelchett]

4 hours ago, Pinny said:

The first thing you should do when released from prison is keep your nose clean and head down. He didn't and he got recalled. So straight away he has had a second chance at life and fcuked that up.

 

I agree in many ways but as ever context is key on everything! Anyway we are going round the houses here so probably just have to disagree. Lets hope if he does get a chance to ride somewhere he embraces it and makes something of it. 

[*JJ]

11 minutes ago, GeneralMelchett said:

I agree in many ways but as ever context is key on everything! Anyway we are going round the houses here so probably just have to disagree. Lets hope if he does get a chance to ride somewhere he embraces it and makes something of it. 

If he wants to start riding, there is amateur speedway?