Workington 2025

[HGould]

The fact with "communications" is that (a) if your initial message is wooly and not transparent and (b) you don't try to answer any questions that may be asked with plausible answers up front, then each time you issue further communication it becomes harder and more risky.

Speedway is not known for its transparency at the best of times, it's worse than the worst Masonic Lodge.

Reading between the lines, and that's not always wise, but in this case there are pointers there would seem to be at leat 2 issues

(a) some sort of administrative issue that is relevant to the sort of agencies (Home Office or HMRC) that fill the BSPL / SCB / ACU with dread. I mean by that something not just Workington specific but which may draw attention (I'm thinking visas especially) to other Clubs. Not pointing any fingers but punishments in these areas can be beyond punitive!

 

(b) evidence of past and present late or non payment that causes BSPL / SCB an issue. There is also some anecdotal evidence that the Bond paid by Workington may be NDL level at entry and not ramped up due to the urgent need to get them to step up to CL, not the first Club forced to do that.

Having announced the suspension, and clearly having lost a degree of "trust" that it can be sorted out, it would seem that the BSPL will require a lot of boxes to be ticked, especially for outside agancies but also to cover their backsides and the Sport in general.

Having gone off "half hearted" with the initial statement of suspension, the next one will really need to be clear, very factual and very unambiguous. 

Don't hold your breath on that score.

Geoff may be partially right "no news is good news" for now! It at least indicates a willingness to resolve rather than pull the plug from the Governing Bodies.

 

 

 

 

 

Edited July 1 by HGould
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[singy13]

17 minutes ago, comet49 said:

Been thinking the same, be good if they put a statement out.

And hopefully any info supplied will stop the 'crooks' accusations?

The sponsors money will have probably helped to build new toilets, refs box, the 3rd and 4th bend spectator viewing, fan club shop and other spectator facilities - all costly projects and certainly good honest care for the fans at Northside.

[2ndbend123]

39 minutes ago, Neila said:

Maybe the club should put a statement out with some information, maybe can't say too much, but at least say something. at the moment other clubs are saying we have no fixture this Saturday, after the 3 this week been postponed due to the suspension. Surely home fans and sponsors deserve some information even if it's just minimal. This is not a rant more of a plea, the promotion have done a fantastic job getting Northside up and running 

100% agree on this 

Week on week the promotion pledge to the fans to keep supporting. But can’t even keep the paying public in the picture instead having to hear from Berwick social media that this weeks fixture has been cancelled.

Poor communication and not fair on the fans.

Whatever the issue is it’s taking longer than the 7 days to rectify or if can even be rectified.

I have also heard that at least 2 riders and looking for new clubs.

 

 

[CTD26]

5 minutes ago, 2ndbend123 said:

100% agree on this 

Week on week the promotion pledge to the fans to keep supporting. But can’t even keep the paying public in the picture instead having to hear from Berwick social media that this weeks fixture has been cancelled.

Poor communication and not fair on the fans.

Whatever the issue is it’s taking longer than the 7 days to rectify or if can even be rectified.

I have also heard that at least 2 riders and looking for new clubs.

 

 

And which two riders is this?

[CTD26]

5 minutes ago, 2ndbend123 said:

100% agree on this 

Week on week the promotion pledge to the fans to keep supporting. But can’t even keep the paying public in the picture instead having to hear from Berwick social media that this weeks fixture has been cancelled.

Poor communication and not fair on the fans.

Whatever the issue is it’s taking longer than the 7 days to rectify or if can even be rectified.

I have also heard that at least 2 riders and looking for new clubs.

 

 

And which two riders is this?

[CTD26]

I’ve sat back and let people crack on but after reading through page after page, I’m gonna say my bit.

The amount of people first off running there mouths saying some disgraceful things about Andrew etc is ridiculous. There’s absolutely no need for it.

People thinking they’ve got it cracked what’s going on, throwing about silly rumours just to get everybody riled up doesn’t help the situation. 
 

I suggest you’s all take a back seat, and await further information. 99% of you clearly haven’t got a clue what’s going on and think you’s do.

Wind your necks in, stop abusing the promotion that’s put their hearts and souls into bringing speedway back to the town and stop acting like an entitled bunch. 
 

The only people who should know what’s going on at this stage is the promotion, then comes sponsors and when’s the times right, the public will be updated.

[gjcone44]

paying public.

[AndiCapp]

44 minutes ago, 2ndbend123 said:

100% agree on this 

Week on week the promotion pledge to the fans to keep supporting. But can’t even keep the paying public in the picture instead having to hear from Berwick social media that this weeks fixture has been cancelled.

Poor communication and not fair on the fans.

Whatever the issue is it’s taking longer than the 7 days to rectify or if can even be rectified.

I have also heard that at least 2 riders and looking for new clubs.

 

 

Go on name them if you know everything! The riders have contracts with the club so they will have a job of moving anywhere. Surely from the last statement you made you have no interest in the wellbeing of Workington Speedway.

Edited July 1 by AndiCapp

[dellbob]

22 minutes ago, CTD26 said:

I’ve sat back and let people crack on but after reading through page after page, I’m gonna say my bit.

The amount of people first off running there mouths saying some disgraceful things about Andrew etc is ridiculous. There’s absolutely no need for it.

People thinking they’ve got it cracked what’s going on, throwing about silly rumours just to get everybody riled up doesn’t help the situation. 
 

I suggest you’s all take a back seat, and await further information. 99% of you clearly haven’t got a clue what’s going on and think you’s do.

Wind your necks in, stop abusing the promotion that’s put their hearts and souls into bringing speedway back to the town and stop acting like an entitled bunch. 
 

The only people who should know what’s going on at this stage is the promotion, then comes sponsors and when’s the times right, the public will be updated.

Well said agree 100%

[2ndbend123]

43 minutes ago, AndiCapp said:

Go on name them if you know everything! The riders have contracts with the club so they will have a job of moving anywhere. Surely from the last statement you made you have no interest in the wellbeing of Workington Speedway.

I was just made aware of 2 riders asking to be moved on no names were mentioned.

I would guess this is due to the lack of meetings and income.

The riders will have bills like us all.

[2ndbend123]

The promotion still haven’t made a statement.

The last statement was on Cumbria Crack 2 hours ago mentioned no Berwick fixture.

Like it or not the communication to the fans is terrible.

[CTD26]

3 minutes ago, 2ndbend123 said:

I was just made aware of 2 riders asking to be moved on no names were mentioned.

I would guess this is due to the lack of meetings and income.

The riders will have bills like us all.

Like the promotion can have any effect on the weather. Apart from the ones that have been cancelled in the last week, they have been rain offs. Have a day off.

[Biffa]

Wondering how Steve Lawson stands in all this speculation. All the posts seem to be about the Promotion & Andrew Bain. I take it Andrew is the money behind Workington, but Steve is a named Promoter. Will both share the burden if the Promotion is charged with anything, or is it just the money man, and is Steve now liable for anything? 

[2ndbend123]

Just now, CTD26 said:

Like the promotion can have any effect on the weather. Apart from the ones that have been cancelled in the last week, they have been rain offs. Have a day off.

No the promotion can’t help the weather that was never mentioned.

But they can help being suspended from racing. Or is that the weathers fault too?

Smell the coffee and stop sugar coating this errors have been made and now everyone must suffer the consequences inc riders and fans.

But again if the promotion actually bothered to communicate all this could be explained. 

[soupy]

13 hours ago, comet49 said:

They should have been at Berwick Saturday 28/7 then Oxford away 2/7 and Redcar away 4/7, then home to Berwick on Sat 5/7. Those were the fixtures listed in the Plymouth match programme.

One thing about the match programme for the fixtures is to list them H Home A Away and be easier to understand.

[CTD26]

24 minutes ago, 2ndbend123 said:

No the promotion can’t help the weather that was never mentioned.

But they can help being suspended from racing. Or is that the weathers fault too?

Smell the coffee and stop sugar coating this errors have been made and now everyone must suffer the consequences inc riders and fans.

But again if the promotion actually bothered to communicate all this could be explained. 

So 3 matches cancelled and all of a sudden it’s a problem and they want out? Okay mate. Put that shovel down so you stop digging.

[Mr Blobby]

6 minutes ago, CTD26 said:

So 3 matches cancelled and all of a sudden it’s a problem and they want out? Okay mate. Put that shovel down so you stop digging.

Any comment on running the Plymouth match with no insurance or licenses from the SCB/BSPA?  
 

Not taking away or making Andrew to be the bad guy but for all the good work he has done he’s cut some serious corners behind the scenes which has led to this. Hopefully can all be resolved.

Edited July 1 by Mr Blobby

[CTD26]

14 minutes ago, Mr Blobby said:

Any comment on running the Plymouth match with no insurance or licenses from the SCB/BSPA?  
 

Not taking away or making Andrew to be the bad guy but for all the good work he has done he’s cut some serious corners behind the scenes which has led to this. Hopefully can all be resolved.

I very much doubt it would have been ran without the relevant licenses insurance etc. The SCB wouldn’t have supplied the referee for a start. 

[allthegearbutnaeidea]

30 minutes ago, CTD26 said:

So 3 matches cancelled and all of a sudden it’s a problem and they want out? Okay mate. Put that shovel down so you stop digging.

4 matches cancelled with no idea as to when they can restart, if they can at all. This is the riders’ jobs you’re talking about here, to provide for their families. Of course they want out, why wouldn’t you it your boss can’t give you any work.

[Mr Blobby]

22 minutes ago, CTD26 said:

I very much doubt it would have been ran without the relevant licenses insurance etc. The SCB wouldn’t have supplied the referee for a start. 

With the club being dissolved on the 17th they wouldn’t have. Don’t think the SCB/BSPA was made aware till more recently about the situation or found out till more recently, otherwise that match wouldn’t have happened.