truthsayer Posted July 3, 2025 Report Share Posted July 3, 2025 13 minutes ago, Tim G said: I don’t think anyone has a solution and that is why as a sport it is in deep trouble. Speedway is not like track days where you can rock up on your ride bike, make a few adjustments and go on the track. How many people are going to spend thousands on a bike and van to do this? Not many is the answer. There are opportunities as Dean has stated and they are struggling to get riders. i expect also as most tracks are hired, the promoter probably has to sign up for a minimum number of meetings. To me, we need to lower costs and for clubs to run on the best night for the fan base, I know this means losing top riders. This will not save the sport but hopefully keep it going for a few more seasons. I don’t think it’s just speedway struggling, I feel the whole motorcycle sector is not very healthy atm. My point really is that speedway promoters have to be free to make the product they think works for them, without being confined to delivering the product they have just now - because that is clearly not viable. It's not attractive to enough fans and the whole business model revolves around getting people through the gate. If 'the right product' means league speedway then great, but if that means six meetings a year at holiday resorts, all-day training tracks, pop-up tracks to tie in with other events, quads, sidecars or vets.... then that is great too. Whatever it is, people need to be able to run more speedway in a way that it can be sustainable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted July 3, 2025 Report Share Posted July 3, 2025 2 minutes ago, THE DEAN MACHINE said: No You don't like talking about money do you... if IoW were doing as well as they said they were a ferry price increase should have been coverable, I suspect it's more to do with crowd levels outside of the holiday season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE DEAN MACHINE Posted July 3, 2025 Report Share Posted July 3, 2025 (edited) 19 minutes ago, IainB said: You don't like talking about money do you... if IoW were doing as well as they said they were a ferry price increase should have been coverable, I suspect it's more to do with crowd levels outside of the holiday season. Believe whatever you like mate but the increase in ferry price is 3 times what it was last year, it’s the most expensive ferry crossing in the world per mile traveled, it is true they rely on holiday season but, they always have but this season 7 meetings was only decided on at a meeting on june 13th, if it went the other way, then a couple of the meetings were hopefully going to be at another track on the mainland, if it was as you think, they could of said in march /april we not running till July, these are the fixtures as the riders needed to know as early as possible Edited July 3, 2025 by THE DEAN MACHINE 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE DEAN MACHINE Posted July 3, 2025 Report Share Posted July 3, 2025 Anyway can we get back to Workington, if we need to discuss the sport can we start another topic 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Preston Comet Posted July 3, 2025 Report Share Posted July 3, 2025 (edited) 1 hour ago, WookieboyDon said: It still shocks me that people expect or feel entitled to be given immediate information on such matters straight away. It should remain private and confidential as long as those in charge want it to be. When the time is right, you’ll get your answers. And to those that say “Well I am the paying public, they take my money so I have a right to know.” Well, if your local shop that is family owned suddenly closes for the day and puts up a sign saying ‘Closed temporarily due to unforeseen circumstances’, are you going to bang on the door or phone them up demanding to know why just because you spend money in there?! No, didn’t think so. This should be no different. Best post in the thread so far I'd say . Peolple think they're entitled to know everything, immediately I blame the internet Edited July 3, 2025 by Preston Comet 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthernBee Posted July 4, 2025 Report Share Posted July 4, 2025 15 hours ago, piston197 said: Tony Atkin, probably the last of the full time speedway riders to have a full time job throughout his career in both speedway and Grasstrack Tony Atkin - Speedway-stats.co.uk Tony Atkin Born Chester, Cheshire, 8th April 1966 Top Grass-track exponent who was British 350cc champion before having initial shale outings at Stoke in 1986. Returned to the speedway circuits in 1993 at Wolverhampton where he held down a reserve berth for much of the season, and played a similar role when moving to Bradford last term. Made his Owlerton debut on August 18, 1994 when finishing runner-up (12 points) to Peter Scully in the Young Guns Individual meeting. Joined Sheffield on the eve of the season. Off-track he runs an office cleaning business in his home town. I highly doubt he is the last rider. There are plenty of jobs that can be fitted in around speedway. Steve Worrall has his own business doing campervans, Richard Lawson was quoted in an interview about how he works as as plasterer. Simon Lambert has a timber yard. Ben Barker is a wagon driver. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted July 4, 2025 Report Share Posted July 4, 2025 Worky get their BSPL membership back today, yay! When's their next meeting? 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neila Posted July 4, 2025 Author Report Share Posted July 4, 2025 1 hour ago, IainB said: Worky get their BSPL membership back today, yay! When's their next meeting? Source ??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dellbob Posted July 4, 2025 Report Share Posted July 4, 2025 1 hour ago, IainB said: Worky get their BSPL membership back today, yay! When's their next meeting? Brilliant news Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BackInTheDHSS Posted July 4, 2025 Report Share Posted July 4, 2025 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Neila said: Source ??? https://britishspeedway.co.uk/cab-direct-championship/bsp-statement-workington-speedway/ https://workingtoncomets.com/workington-speedway-statement-2/ Seven days are up, and there's been no mention of it being extended, so..... Edited July 4, 2025 by BackInTheDHSS 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted July 4, 2025 Report Share Posted July 4, 2025 I would prob wait for another announcement tbh as Worky said they were going to make a statement to the fans when everything was sorted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neila Posted July 4, 2025 Author Report Share Posted July 4, 2025 (edited) Yes but if the issues, whatever they are, have not be resolved, someone has to make a statement today to say what may or may not be happening. I'm a comet's fan and hope they pull through this hiccup And the someone will have to be both bspa and comets management imo Edited July 4, 2025 by Neila 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A.N.Other Posted July 4, 2025 Report Share Posted July 4, 2025 I would think we will be lucky to get our home meeting on NEXT SAT 12th July ! These things can take weeks to sort out. I hope I am wrong, but only time will tell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur54 Posted July 4, 2025 Report Share Posted July 4, 2025 3 hours ago, IainB said: Worky get their BSPL membership back today, yay! When's their next meeting? Should be Poole at home next Saturday 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BackInTheDHSS Posted July 4, 2025 Report Share Posted July 4, 2025 49 minutes ago, LisaColette said: I would prob wait for another announcement tbh as Worky said they were going to make a statement to the fans when everything was sorted. And you think there's going to be another announcement? You've been in this game long enough to know how British Speedway works. I'll bet anyone on here good money that we won't hear a thing today - once again leaving fans in the dark. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
proud panther Posted July 4, 2025 Report Share Posted July 4, 2025 15 hours ago, WookieboyDon said: It still shocks me that people expect or feel entitled to be given immediate information on such matters straight away. It should remain private and confidential as long as those in charge want it to be. When the time is right, you’ll get your answers. And to those that say “Well I am the paying public, they take my money so I have a right to know.” Well, if your local shop that is family owned suddenly closes for the day and puts up a sign saying ‘Closed temporarily due to unforeseen circumstances’, are you going to bang on the door or phone them up demanding to know why just because you spend money in there?! No, didn’t think so. This should be no different. Don't expect anything, I'm just surprised that the information wasn't released earlier, to possibly stop all the speculation. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted July 4, 2025 Report Share Posted July 4, 2025 36 minutes ago, BackInTheDHSS said: And you think there's going to be another announcement? You've been in this game long enough to know how British Speedway works. I'll bet anyone on here good money that we won't hear a thing today - once again leaving fans in the dark. Yeah, that is true. Communication with fans is pretty bad compared to other sports. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamster00 Posted July 4, 2025 Report Share Posted July 4, 2025 If they were going to be reinstated today and all was going to be well then they wouldn’t have needed to cancel their meeting against Berwick tomorrow, forcing Berwick to organise an alternative fixture against Edinburgh. I expect this to drag on for a while. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bomber75 Posted July 4, 2025 Report Share Posted July 4, 2025 22 hours ago, tyler42 said: You;ve hit the nail on the head. The days when the bike and leathers were 2nd hand have long gone, but also young riders of today are safe in the knowledge that thier team spots are safe due to the lake of riders. Back in the day, if you had a couple of bad meetings, there was always another rider the club would give a go. btw, You talk about scruffy oiks. A certain young lad who went on to be one of the best. Started out with an old weslake Tatty pair of 2nd hand leather. He would have been laughed at by all these youngster today with the big vans and 3 bikes and mechanics to boot! His name was Joe Screen!! I remember many moons ago Mike Sampson, Bob Coles and Chris Roynon used to pitch up to Holker Street in an old ford zodiac with a three bike trailer on the back. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmarsbar2 Posted July 4, 2025 Report Share Posted July 4, 2025 17 hours ago, IainB said: 7 meetings does not a Speedway season make. But apparently 11 make a Championship season - 2 BSN, 1 cup & 8 league matches. That will be why riders have to double up and fans don't know when the next meeting is as there's large gaps in the racing calendar. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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