Glasgow 2025

[mikebv]

2 hours ago, TracksideView said:

Have a look at Ashtons social media posts. How many bike issues & mechanics were blamed for his struggle in form ? You can't sort a problem if the problem is denied ,and are you telling me Oxford would have kept a rider who signed on a 5.07 and was due to drop to 3 in his new average ?

Every man and his dog could see there was serious confidence issues, even when practising with a team mate, the issue was glaringly obvious. 

Everyone wants to see the lad succeed regardless of what team you support as he was a talented British rider but pushing for some sort of success when his mental struggles were starting to not only cost him in results but becomes a danger to other riders there is no other option than for a big time out. Hopefully he will return at some point but not convinced he will.

Even Shawn Moran, a true top level great of the sport, quit due to not "having the bottle anymore" as he described it...

Let's hope the kid can overcome his current problem...

But let's not criticise him for it...

Most of us on here, can only dream of doing what this lad can do...

And, if he doesn't come back, best wishes to him for giving something so incredibly dangerous, a go, and I hope his future is a positive one...

For some reason, this country seem to inflate levels for any kid with even a modicum of talent..

Just let them evolve, without pressure..

It's not as if there are 100's queueing up to be decent Speedway riders..

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Leon Flint has crashed today while racing in Germany, currently on way to hospital for a check up.

[tigger63]

1 hour ago, screm said:

Leon Flint has crashed today while racing in Germany, currently on way to hospital for a check up.

not a great selection on guests available .... best i can see are l kerr or t thomson ..... kemp is a fraction to high.

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23 minutes ago, tigger63 said:

not a great selection on guests available .... best i can see are l kerr or t thomson ..... kemp is a fraction to high.

I believe Leon has broken his left shoulder so will spend time out of the Glasgow team.

[Joseq7]

36 minutes ago, screm said:

I believe Leon has broken his left shoulder so will spend time out of the Glasgow team.

Apparently confirmed..... 

 

[Steve Irving]

Best wishes to Leon on a speedy recovery. Was riding well too, shame for the lad. 

[Joseq7]

25 minutes ago, Joseq7 said:

Apparently confirmed..... 

 

From Leon himself..... 

https://x.com/Leon_Flint1/status/1936851869428514898?t=l96z5wdQ6f8iGB00ZHl72w&s=19

[LisaColette]

2 hours ago, tigger63 said:

not a great selection on guests available .... best i can see are l kerr or t thomson ..... kemp is a fraction to high.

Speedy recovery Leon.

Not sure who are you going to have on July 2nd then. R/R maybe?  Tobi been moaning about a 2 week break in fixtures and he loves the Glasgow track, so sure he would do it if asked. 

[Gazc]

Come back Ashton we were only joking.

[TigerIain]

On 6/17/2025 at 11:28 PM, JanAndersen said:

So wait are you suggesting Glasgow don’t have financial muscle? I’m not going to criticise Glasgow for paying what they feel is worthwhile for riders to put the best team on track but it’s disingenuous from you to suggest they don’t do that. 

Speedway wages aren't public knowledge so I couldn't say either way. I just have an example that I did know of where Glasgow wouldn't meet a riders demands, so clearly there are limits on what they will pay as opposed to having a bottomless money pit.

Do you have evidence of Glasgow paying huge sums to riders over and above all the other tracks? If so, feel free to share it.

Glasgow have a great race track, and rumours suggest they have a reputation for paying riders in full and on time every week (which rumours suggest isn't as common as us fans would like to believe) which could explain why riders want to ride there

[Solidmango]

18 hours ago, tigger63 said:

not a great selection on guests available .... best i can see are l kerr or t thomson ..... kemp is a fraction to high.

Nicolai Klindt would fit for Friday only

[scaramanga]

always rumours regarding riders wages 

either not getting paid or teams paying higher than others to get the rider they want 

only the tax man should know thats if there paying uk taxes as we know often some dont and stay away from uk after a good season 

[Mr Blobby]

12 hours ago, TigerIain said:

Speedway wages aren't public knowledge so I couldn't say either way. I just have an example that I did know of where Glasgow wouldn't meet a riders demands, so clearly there are limits on what they will pay as opposed to having a bottomless money pit.

Do you have evidence of Glasgow paying huge sums to riders over and above all the other tracks? If so, feel free to share it.

Glasgow have a great race track, and rumours suggest they have a reputation for paying riders in full and on time every week (which rumours suggest isn't as common as us fans would like to believe) which could explain why riders want to ride there

The signing on fees and the covering of other costs that clubs don’t pay or contribute partly towards are also a big plus. 
 

If everyone believes riders choose to travel half the length of UK cause of the track and cause they get paid every Tuesday then you’ll believe anything. It’s all the other bits I’ve listed above that make it worth it. 
 

If you know riders who have rode under the new regime well enough and promotors of other clubs who have lost out on riders due to this, who are happy to discuss it feel free to ask them.

[cheggie]

 

1 hour ago, Solidmango said:

Nicolai Klindt would fit for Friday only

good shout, as he rode really well on Friday night!

[SunnyLeith]

14 hours ago, TigerIain said:

Speedway wages aren't public knowledge so I couldn't say either way. I just have an example that I did know of where Glasgow wouldn't meet a riders demands, so clearly there are limits on what they will pay as opposed to having a bottomless money pit.

Do you have evidence of Glasgow paying huge sums to riders over and above all the other tracks? If so, feel free to share it.

Glasgow have a great race track, and rumours suggest they have a reputation for paying riders in full and on time every week (which rumours suggest isn't as common as us fans would like to believe) which could explain why riders want to ride there

Not sure why Glasgow fans get so defensive about the wages situation. Circumstantial evidence relating to the number of south of England based riders, especially promising up and coming ones,  who have ridden for Tigers over the last few years would certainly suggest that it’s not only because they have a super duper track and stadium (as Messrs Brown and Lanning remind us every week in Speedway Star).

Tigers are entitled to sign whoever they want within the rules, or even exploiting them to the limit, at whatever budget they think fit. No point in denying it.

The upgrade to Ashfield is evidence that the owners are willing to allocate a large budget to the speedway side of their business.

 

 

 

 

 

[Fromafar]

28 minutes ago, SunnyLeith said:

Not sure why Glasgow fans get so defensive about the wages situation. Circumstantial evidence relating to the number of south of England based riders, especially promising up and coming ones,  who have ridden for Tigers over the last few years would certainly suggest that it’s not only because they have a super duper track and stadium (as Messrs Brown and Lanning remind us every week in Speedway Star).

Tigers are entitled to sign whoever they want within the rules, or even exploiting them to the limit, at whatever budget they think fit. No point in denying it.

The upgrade to Ashfield is evidence that the owners are willing to allocate a large budget to the speedway side of their business.

 

 

 

 

 

Don’t know why the subject is brought up so much with other fans,especially as they don’t really know the the situation regarding what riders get paid( even at their own Clubs)

[SunnyLeith]

11 minutes ago, Fromafar said:

Don’t know why the subject is brought up so much with other fans,especially as they don’t really know the the situation regarding what riders get paid( even at their own Clubs)

Because this is a discussion forum

[Weeyin]

4 hours ago, Solidmango said:

Nicolai Klindt would fit for Friday only

Nicolai on a 9.89 average, does not fit for Leon, would only fit for bomber, just seen that his new average fits in new greensheets, so he does fit

Edited Monday at 04:18 PM by Weeyin

[King Jamie]

1 hour ago, SunnyLeith said:

Not sure why Glasgow fans get so defensive about the wages situation. Circumstantial evidence relating to the number of south of England based riders, especially promising up and coming ones,  who have ridden for Tigers over the last few years would certainly suggest that it’s not only because they have a super duper track and stadium

Don't you remember Drew Kemp, Jason Edwards and Anders Rowe riding for the Monarchs in recent years?

That's not an exclusive list of course. It goes back several years. Michael Coles, Lawrence Hare, Jamie and Jeremy Luckhurst, Justin Elkins, Justin Walker, John Wainwright. Much more recently, Ryan Fisher, Sam Masters, etc. Probably loads more.

If Glasgow are paying extras (according to Mr Blobby), surely that's classed as competitive advantage. The promotions have a choice. Pay it or don't pay it. Simples. All's fair in sport and all that.

[SunnyLeith]

23 minutes ago, King Jamie said:

Don't you remember Drew Kemp, Jason Edwards and Anders Rowe riding for the Monarchs in recent years?

That's not an exclusive list of course. It goes back several years. Michael Coles, Lawrence Hare, Jamie and Jeremy Luckhurst, Justin Elkins, Justin Walker, John Wainwright. Much more recently, Ryan Fisher, Sam Masters, etc. Probably loads more.

If Glasgow are paying extras (according to Mr Blobby), surely that's classed as competitive advantage. The promotions have a choice. Pay it or don't pay it. Simples. All's fair in sport and all that.

Yes I remember these riders very well although a number were based up here during part or all of their term with Monarchs. 
We would have paid them what was required to sign them as Glasgow do. I made this point regarding Glasgow and wasn’t criticising them. It was an observation.