Fromafar Posted yesterday at 07:46 AM Report Share Posted yesterday at 07:46 AM Best way out for Tolley.He gave it a go but he was going to bankrupt himself at the rate it was going.Just not enough fans turning up.Sad the decline of the sport though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HGould Posted yesterday at 08:29 AM Report Share Posted yesterday at 08:29 AM I concur with those who refer to the complete inevitability of this. The minute Entain removed Speedway from Monmore to focus on Dogs and Arena / ARC (or whatever the latest Branding is) mooted building a Dog Track on the infoeld on Dunstall Park, Wolverhampton AW Venue with its massive Stand and Hotel, Perry Barr as a venue was doomed. I have massive respect for Nigel for the money he has put in, money he will never recoup. I have to question his team building and management and his sanity or insanity in terms of investment, but he cannot and must not ever be attacked for his loyalty and commitment. For his own mental health and future prosperity, this decision I suspect will in the longer term be welcome to him. With no appraent progess for Wolves, delays and no clear path yet for Brandon , there still may be a glimmer of hope for Midland Speedway at the new Knighthead / East Side development that incorporates to old Wheels Site. This now has Government / Local Government and massive American Funding behind it. The big problem is that a 65,000 state of the art stadium, a new Athletics Track , direct access to the City Centre and Airport may not be branding wise logical with a shale oval track with limited use, when you add in Casino , Cinemas, Hotels, and top class Apartments etc. If the development goes for major Athletic Events that will require a secondary Athletics Stadium with such world class facilities for Training and Competiton and a new Home for GB Athletics , then may be the current Athletics home at Perry Barr may in 5-6 years time be an option BUT it would require significant funding and Council Support and seriousy what state would British Speedway be in by then. Several other Tracks seem to be hanging on by the skin of their teeth in the face of planning , development and economic concerns, so we could in 5 years be down to a core of 10 or less. Sad times and hopefully Nigel gets enough support in the remaining months to at least break even!     7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted yesterday at 08:40 AM Report Share Posted yesterday at 08:40 AM 10 minutes ago, HGould said: I concur with those who refer to the complete inevitability of this. The minute Entain removed Speedway from Monmore to focus on Dogs and Arena / ARC (or whatever the latest Branding is) mooted building a Dog Track on the infoeld on Dunstall Park, Wolverhampton AW Venue with its massive Stand and Hotel, Perry Barr as a venue was doomed. I have massive respect for Nigel for the money he has put in, money he will never recoup. I have to question his team building and management and his sanity or insanity in terms of investment, but he cannot and must not ever be attacked for his loyalty and commitment. For his own mental health and future prosperity, this decision I suspect will in the longer term be welcome to him. With no appraent progess for Wolves, delays and no clear path yet for Brandon , there still may be a glimmer of hope for Midland Speedway at the new Knighthead / East Side development that incorporates to old Wheels Site. This now has Government / Local Government and massive American Funding behind it. The big problem is that a 65,000 state of the art stadium, a new Athletics Track , direct access to the City Centre and Airport may not be branding wise logical with a shale oval track with limited use, when you add in Casino , Cinemas, Hotels, and top class Apartments etc. If the development goes for major Athletic Events that will require a secondary Athletics Stadium with such world class facilities for Training and Competiton and a new Home for GB Athletics , then may be the current Athletics home at Perry Barr may in 5-6 years time be an option BUT it would require significant funding and Council Support and seriousy what state would British Speedway be in by then. Several other Tracks seem to be hanging on by the skin of their teeth in the face of planning , development and economic concerns, so we could in 5 years be down to a core of 10 or less. Sad times and hopefully Nigel gets enough support in the remaining months to at least break even!     I agree with your comments regarding Nigel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattB Posted yesterday at 09:02 AM Report Share Posted yesterday at 09:02 AM 30 minutes ago, HGould said: I concur with those who refer to the complete inevitability of this. The minute Entain removed Speedway from Monmore to focus on Dogs and Arena / ARC (or whatever the latest Branding is) mooted building a Dog Track on the infoeld on Dunstall Park, Wolverhampton AW Venue with its massive Stand and Hotel, Perry Barr as a venue was doomed. I have massive respect for Nigel for the money he has put in, money he will never recoup. I have to question his team building and management and his sanity or insanity in terms of investment, but he cannot and must not ever be attacked for his loyalty and commitment. For his own mental health and future prosperity, this decision I suspect will in the longer term be welcome to him. With no appraent progess for Wolves, delays and no clear path yet for Brandon , there still may be a glimmer of hope for Midland Speedway at the new Knighthead / East Side development that incorporates to old Wheels Site. This now has Government / Local Government and massive American Funding behind it. The big problem is that a 65,000 state of the art stadium, a new Athletics Track , direct access to the City Centre and Airport may not be branding wise logical with a shale oval track with limited use, when you add in Casino , Cinemas, Hotels, and top class Apartments etc. If the development goes for major Athletic Events that will require a secondary Athletics Stadium with such world class facilities for Training and Competiton and a new Home for GB Athletics , then may be the current Athletics home at Perry Barr may in 5-6 years time be an option BUT it would require significant funding and Council Support and seriousy what state would British Speedway be in by then. Several other Tracks seem to be hanging on by the skin of their teeth in the face of planning , development and economic concerns, so we could in 5 years be down to a core of 10 or less. Sad times and hopefully Nigel gets enough support in the remaining months to at least break even!     Been told by someone in the know that there is zero chance of speedway being included in the plans for the old Wheels Park site. Knighthead have no interest in any form of motor sport. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattB Posted yesterday at 09:05 AM Report Share Posted yesterday at 09:05 AM (edited) 36 minutes ago, HGould said: I concur with those who refer to the complete inevitability of this. The minute Entain removed Speedway from Monmore to focus on Dogs and Arena / ARC (or whatever the latest Branding is) mooted building a Dog Track on the infoeld on Dunstall Park, Wolverhampton AW Venue with its massive Stand and Hotel, Perry Barr as a venue was doomed. I have massive respect for Nigel for the money he has put in, money he will never recoup. I have to question his team building and management and his sanity or insanity in terms of investment, but he cannot and must not ever be attacked for his loyalty and commitment. For his own mental health and future prosperity, this decision I suspect will in the longer term be welcome to him. With no appraent progess for Wolves, delays and no clear path yet for Brandon , there still may be a glimmer of hope for Midland Speedway at the new Knighthead / East Side development that incorporates to old Wheels Site. This now has Government / Local Government and massive American Funding behind it. The big problem is that a 65,000 state of the art stadium, a new Athletics Track , direct access to the City Centre and Airport may not be branding wise logical with a shale oval track with limited use, when you add in Casino , Cinemas, Hotels, and top class Apartments etc. If the development goes for major Athletic Events that will require a secondary Athletics Stadium with such world class facilities for Training and Competiton and a new Home for GB Athletics , then may be the current Athletics home at Perry Barr may in 5-6 years time be an option BUT it would require significant funding and Council Support and seriousy what state would British Speedway be in by then. Several other Tracks seem to be hanging on by the skin of their teeth in the face of planning , development and economic concerns, so we could in 5 years be down to a core of 10 or less. Sad times and hopefully Nigel gets enough support in the remaining months to at least break even!     Double post Edited yesterday at 09:06 AM by MattB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattB Posted yesterday at 09:14 AM Report Share Posted yesterday at 09:14 AM 39 minutes ago, HGould said: I concur with those who refer to the complete inevitability of this. The minute Entain removed Speedway from Monmore to focus on Dogs and Arena / ARC (or whatever the latest Branding is) mooted building a Dog Track on the infoeld on Dunstall Park, Wolverhampton AW Venue with its massive Stand and Hotel, Perry Barr as a venue was doomed. I have massive respect for Nigel for the money he has put in, money he will never recoup. I have to question his team building and management and his sanity or insanity in terms of investment, but he cannot and must not ever be attacked for his loyalty and commitment. For his own mental health and future prosperity, this decision I suspect will in the longer term be welcome to him. With no appraent progess for Wolves, delays and no clear path yet for Brandon , there still may be a glimmer of hope for Midland Speedway at the new Knighthead / East Side development that incorporates to old Wheels Site. This now has Government / Local Government and massive American Funding behind it. The big problem is that a 65,000 state of the art stadium, a new Athletics Track , direct access to the City Centre and Airport may not be branding wise logical with a shale oval track with limited use, when you add in Casino , Cinemas, Hotels, and top class Apartments etc. If the development goes for major Athletic Events that will require a secondary Athletics Stadium with such world class facilities for Training and Competiton and a new Home for GB Athletics , then may be the current Athletics home at Perry Barr may in 5-6 years time be an option BUT it would require significant funding and Council Support and seriousy what state would British Speedway be in by then. Several other Tracks seem to be hanging on by the skin of their teeth in the face of planning , development and economic concerns, so we could in 5 years be down to a core of 10 or less. Sad times and hopefully Nigel gets enough support in the remaining months to at least break even!     Property Development remains the great nemesis that speedway faces im afraid. OK there was huge issues over the viability of Birmingham, but you couldn't suggest Coventry was not viable (albeit supported by stock car racing) but that didn't stop Brandon Estates buying the site and kicking both of them out. Likewise at Wolves, where a viable operation was removed simply because the owner no longer wanted us there. Doesn't matter how many fans you get through the gates. A speedway club in the UK is only secure as their next lease date. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted yesterday at 03:05 PM Report Share Posted yesterday at 03:05 PM 5 hours ago, MattB said: Property Development remains the great nemesis that speedway faces im afraid. OK there was huge issues over the viability of Birmingham, but you couldn't suggest Coventry was not viable (albeit supported by stock car racing) but that didn't stop Brandon Estates buying the site and kicking both of them out. Likewise at Wolves, where a viable operation was removed simply because the owner no longer wanted us there. Doesn't matter how many fans you get through the gates. A speedway club in the UK is only secure as their next lease date. True, but... If the landowner was getting £20k a night rent, 20 times a year, then, I would suggest, they would be more likely to keep their tenants on.. If Speedway had been able to keep hold of it's fan base, rather than losing tens of thousands of followers, then a 3,000 crowd would deliver around £70k a night, therefore paying a £20k rent would be a possibility... The harsh reality is developers know hardly anyone will miss their local speedway track disappearing, nor, for many, even notice it was there, never mind gone.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pauldoveyspeedway Posted yesterday at 03:16 PM Report Share Posted yesterday at 03:16 PM 7 hours ago, Fromafar said: Best way out for Tolley.He gave it a go but he was going to bankrupt himself at the rate it was going.Just not enough fans turning up.Sad the decline of the sport though. Mr.Tolley did give it a good shot and uve got to give him that .Sadly there wasnt enough support for Speedway in that area. Well done for trying.... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattB Posted yesterday at 03:58 PM Report Share Posted yesterday at 03:58 PM 49 minutes ago, mikebv said: True, but... If the landowner was getting £20k a night rent, 20 times a year, then, I would suggest, they would be more likely to keep their tenants on.. If Speedway had been able to keep hold of it's fan base, rather than losing tens of thousands of followers, then a 3,000 crowd would deliver around £70k a night, therefore paying a £20k rent would be a possibility... The harsh reality is developers know hardly anyone will miss their local speedway track disappearing, nor, for many, even notice it was there, never mind gone.. I'd go further and say that if these landlords were allowed to open their betting stalls at speedway meetings then it would change their thoughts. Had Entain had this option, they'd likely have been sticking a contract under CVS's nose rather than an eviction. notice. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattB Posted yesterday at 04:01 PM Report Share Posted yesterday at 04:01 PM 43 minutes ago, Pauldoveyspeedway said: Mr.Tolley did give it a good shot and uve got to give him that .Sadly there wasnt enough support for Speedway in that area. Well done for trying.... They gambled that Wolves closing would bolster their crowds. Some Wolves fans have gone there but you couldn't claim masses of them have. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GiveusaB Posted yesterday at 04:09 PM Report Share Posted yesterday at 04:09 PM (edited) On 5/15/2025 at 6:44 PM, Wolfie456 said: Â The person I feel a deep sadness for is the legend Brian Buck...it's easy to throw money at something when you're a millionaire...but to campaign tirelessly as much as Brian did to get the club back on track (no pun intended) was an incredible achievement! Thanks Brian Edited yesterday at 04:10 PM by GiveusaB 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitten2502 Posted yesterday at 05:45 PM Report Share Posted yesterday at 05:45 PM One thing I find a little puzzling is the programme note "watch this space next week for some big news I have to tell you" which gives the impression of it being a positive - I wonder if Nigel believed he had sorted something and it has since fallen through. Regardless, I add my thanks to Nigel & the rest of the consortium for having the balls to give it a go. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE DEAN MACHINE Posted 23 hours ago Report Share Posted 23 hours ago 2 hours ago, kitten2502 said: One thing I find a little puzzling is the programme note "watch this space next week for some big news I have to tell you" which gives the impression of it being a positive - I wonder if Nigel believed he had sorted something and it has since fallen through. Regardless, I add my thanks to Nigel & the rest of the consortium for having the balls to give it a go. He was due to tell the fans in his programme notes v belle vue but it got rained off Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilTheAce Posted 6 hours ago Report Share Posted 6 hours ago MJJ steps down from uk racing 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noaksey Posted 6 hours ago Report Share Posted 6 hours ago 8 minutes ago, PhilTheAce said: MJJ steps down from uk racing As everyone has known since the start of the season 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackTheBrummie Posted 5 hours ago Report Share Posted 5 hours ago On 5/17/2025 at 10:02 AM, MattB said: Been told by someone in the know that there is zero chance of speedway being included in the plans for the old Wheels Park site. Knighthead have no interest in any form of motor sport. As much as we can hope, would make no sense for knighthead to put a speedway track on the wheels site, it's going to house the stadium, academy etc, I think they want to emulate what Man City have done, also they'll want to put apartments and probably a hotel and I think a star city like complex on the site so that last factor in mind a speedway track would hamper that and just basically take up space in there eyes could be of better use.  Last thing, you say "knighthead have no interest in any form of motorsport" but they have a literal racing team that compete in Le Mans 24 hour, the "hertz team jota" team and I think Tom Wagner is good friends Jimmie Johnson who is a nascar driver. They have interest in motorsport just perhaps not speedway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LagutaRacingFan Posted 5 hours ago Report Share Posted 5 hours ago Why did Sheffield get 28 days to replace Woffinden, but Birmingham get 14 days to replace MJJ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Racin Jason 72 Posted 5 hours ago Report Share Posted 5 hours ago 23 minutes ago, PhilTheAce said: MJJ steps down from uk racing Surprise surprise 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Racin Jason 72 Posted 5 hours ago Report Share Posted 5 hours ago 5 minutes ago, LagutaRacingFan said: Why did Sheffield get 28 days to replace Woffinden, but Birmingham get 14 days to replace MJJ?  5 minutes ago, LagutaRacingFan said: Why did Sheffield get 28 days to replace Woffinden, but Birmingham get 14 days to replace MJJ? Because his short term contract has finished. He hasn’t walked out as has been alluded to 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StarBoy Posted 5 hours ago Report Share Posted 5 hours ago 5 minutes ago, LagutaRacingFan said: Why did Sheffield get 28 days to replace Woffinden, but Birmingham get 14 days to replace MJJ? Because Woffinden was injured due to an accident caused by no fault of his own. MJJ has decided himself that he doesn’t want to continue racing in the UK. Everyone knew from the start of the season that he was a short-term signing. If Birmingham signed him whilst under the full understanding that would be the case they shouldn’t be granted a facility at all imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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