Fromafar Posted Saturday at 08:17 PM Report Share Posted Saturday at 08:17 PM 40 minutes ago, Hawk127 said: Smarzlik is a methodical professional rider who will turn out to be the greatest world champion the sport has ever had. It will take something very special to lower his colours. While others try he simply goes about the business of grinding out race wins when it matters and is at the top of his game with little competition. Maybe the format is wrong as you do not see the best riders in the world and until you go back to a series of qualifying rounds with an ultimate final based on the top scorers, it is what it is. Well done to Smarzlik and big thank you to the SGP 3 riders who served up something a bit different and some decent racing. The sport has a future but needs direction. There’s no way that points scoring system is plausible.Top 2 to Final ,next 4 run off top2 to Final would have been better.Knowing that 6-7 points in the meeting could get you 20 by winning the meeting is laughable in what is a World Championship. Madsen and Dudek are making them look like even bigger clowns with their Wild card Selections.Kelvin trying to pretend the Stadium was packed to the rafters was also a joke. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawk127 Posted Saturday at 08:19 PM Report Share Posted Saturday at 08:19 PM 16 minutes ago, IainB said: I'm sorry, Bartosz is undoubtedly one of the best riders ever, he's got it all, but... I think he's a rubbish world champion Based on what? He has little opposition and he can only compete with what is on the stage. I accept your opinion and only time will tell but as it stands who would you say is on the same level based on the way the competition is run. You do not have the best riders in the world competing but an amalgamation of nation riders because that is what those who pay to broadcast want to see. It is far from ideal and perhaps selling out the sport to t v has brought about where it is now. I do not know but for now it is the best option speedway has to promote itself even if it is not ideal. On to the next GP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted Saturday at 08:20 PM Report Share Posted Saturday at 08:20 PM 1 minute ago, FAST GATER said: May I ask why ? His talent on a speedway bike is not in doubt and he's right up there with the best riders ever, he can gate, he can pass, he's brave, he's clever on track, mechanically he's spot on and anything else you want to add and everything he's wonhe has deserved... I just think as a "World Champion" he doesn't do enough as an ambassador for our sport 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pubichair Posted Saturday at 08:22 PM Report Share Posted Saturday at 08:22 PM (edited) Zmarlik is the best of a bad bunch imo would be lucky to win 1 world title in the golden era when rickardson etc were riding Edited Saturday at 08:25 PM by pubichair Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawk127 Posted Saturday at 08:24 PM Report Share Posted Saturday at 08:24 PM 3 minutes ago, Fromafar said: There’s no way that points scoring system is plausible.Top 2 to Final ,next 4 run off top2 to Final would have been better.Knowing that 6-7 points in the meeting could get you 20 by winning the meeting is laughable in what is a World Championship. Madsen and Dudek are making them look like even bigger clowns with their Wild card Selections.Kelvin trying to pretend the Stadium was packed to the rafters was also a joke. I do not disagree. I was talking about the rider not the farcical format. A long way to go to decide the championship but I accept your view re the scoring system hence you could question whether the format is fit for purpose. I do not think it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted Saturday at 08:24 PM Report Share Posted Saturday at 08:24 PM 1 minute ago, pubichair said: Zmarlik ain't even in top 3 best riders ever imo Everybody is entitled to an opinion.🤔 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Clemens Posted Saturday at 08:24 PM Report Share Posted Saturday at 08:24 PM The lack of quality opposition will kill the GPs simply because supporters will lose interest as the days go by And when they are dead TV will pull out and leave speedway to rot, that includes in Poland too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted Saturday at 08:26 PM Report Share Posted Saturday at 08:26 PM 1 minute ago, Hawk127 said: I do not disagree. I was talking about the rider not the farcical format. A long way to go to decide the championship but I accept your view re the scoring system hence you could question whether the format is fit for purpose. I do not think it is. Sorry I was not questioning your post I was just giving my take on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted Saturday at 08:36 PM Report Share Posted Saturday at 08:36 PM Utterly dull GP. I went to this twice in the early 2000’s and it was dull then but time in the city made up for it. The crowd was far bigger back then as well but racing was rubbish. Still haven’t improved it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawk127 Posted Saturday at 08:59 PM Report Share Posted Saturday at 08:59 PM 29 minutes ago, Fromafar said: Sorry I was not questioning your post I was just giving my take on it. No problem, I did not think you were. It probably needs to change but those on here can only voice an opinion, the people in charge are not interested in genuine and constructive comments on this forum. Onward and upward😀 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eric i Posted Saturday at 09:27 PM Report Share Posted Saturday at 09:27 PM 50 minutes ago, Steve Shovlar said: Utterly dull GP. I went to this twice in the early 2000’s and it was dull then but time in the city made up for it. The crowd was far bigger back then as well but racing was rubbish. Still haven’t improved it. I think it was a sell out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fullmax Posted Saturday at 09:41 PM Author Report Share Posted Saturday at 09:41 PM 53 minutes ago, Steve Shovlar said: Utterly dull GP. I went to this twice in the early 2000’s and it was dull then but time in the city made up for it. The crowd was far bigger back then as well but racing was rubbish. Still haven’t improved it. It wasnt good was it . Best part of the evening was the firework display which finished with Live and let die ! Music during the evening felt like we were at a rave ! 💩 played at full blast ! Was wondering if you had a fiver bet on each ht for red gate, how much you'd end up winning? A few decent races with Lindgren , Madsen and Zmarzlik and that was it. Once Zmarzlik was top scorer it meeting over. He was never going to miss out. Wish he'd have chosen a different gate just to entertain us all a little more. Anyway who cares about the Speedway , what a weekend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Clemens Posted Saturday at 10:02 PM Report Share Posted Saturday at 10:02 PM 19 minutes ago, Fullmax said: It wasnt good was it . Best part of the evening was the firework display which finished with Live and let die ! Music during the evening felt like we were at a rave ! 💩 played at full blast ! Was wondering if you had a fiver bet on each ht for red gate, how much you'd end up winning? A few decent races with Lindgren , Madsen and Zmarzlik and that was it. Once Zmarzlik was top scorer it meeting over. He was never going to miss out. Wish he'd have chosen a different gate just to entertain us all a little more. Anyway who cares about the Speedway , what a weekend. I think the last line is key to what people have been trying to say all night Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyler42 Posted Saturday at 10:25 PM Report Share Posted Saturday at 10:25 PM 1 hour ago, Fromafar said: There’s no way that points scoring system is plausible.Top 2 to Final ,next 4 run off top2 to Final would have been better.Knowing that 6-7 points in the meeting could get you 20 by winning the meeting is laughable in what is a World Championship. Madsen and Dudek are making them look like even bigger clowns with their Wild card Selections.Kelvin trying to pretend the Stadium was packed to the rafters was also a joke. I thought the same when Kubera scored 6 pts in the previous GP and walked away with 14pts to his name. Yes it's the system, but its a stupid system. Like tonight Kurtz had 4 from 4 rides yet nearly made the final. As for the wildcards, the last two GPs have showed that Morris, Castagna and co are just woke and have no idea. It's suppose to be a world championship, so why leave out riders of the calibre of Madsen and Dudek for Kai Huckenbeck and Kvěch!. Both Madsen and Dudek have scored more in one meeting a piece than the other pair in three GPs!! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LagutaRacingFan Posted Saturday at 10:46 PM Report Share Posted Saturday at 10:46 PM 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michanekman Posted Sunday at 07:10 AM Report Share Posted Sunday at 07:10 AM 11 hours ago, ytsejam said: Tatum the tool spouting his normal rubbish "it's been a superb night of speedway"!!.....Another Prague borefest, call it what is was and stop just worrying about keeping your job! Tatum was truly embarrassing tonight. At least Chris Louis sounded bored - like the rest of us. Sadly the TV coverage reflects the state of the sport at present ... Abi treats the gate selection like something off Blue Peter and the pit interviews just get worse by the year. No wonder the interest is waning. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted Sunday at 07:20 AM Report Share Posted Sunday at 07:20 AM 8 hours ago, tyler42 said: As for the wildcards, the last two GPs have showed that Morris, Castagna and co are just woke and have no idea. It's suppose to be a world championship, so why leave out riders of the calibre of Madsen and Dudek for Kai Huckenbeck and Kvěch!. Both Madsen and Dudek have scored more in one meeting a piece than the other pair in three GPs!! ... and you've not even mentioned Klima, there's no way that rider should be anywhere near a GP! The Czechs already have Kvech in the series so what's the logic of giving the wild card spot to Klima?!?! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjcone44 Posted Sunday at 07:22 AM Report Share Posted Sunday at 07:22 AM (edited) just watched replay, felt for Kurtz, Madsen really wanted it, shame Kurtz didn't try that inside line earlier think he was only rider who could ride that line that tight. Edited Sunday at 07:23 AM by gjcone44 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPEEDY69 Posted Sunday at 07:40 AM Report Share Posted Sunday at 07:40 AM Moan moan moan. I was rooting for Kurtz in the semi final, shame. Lambert was truly awful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted Sunday at 07:54 AM Report Share Posted Sunday at 07:54 AM 31 minutes ago, IainB said: ... and you've not even mentioned Klima, there's no way that rider should be anywhere near a GP! The Czechs already have Kvech in the series so what's the logic of giving the wild card spot to Klima?!?! Did we really want Milik again. ? At least they were trying someone new with Bubba. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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