Steve Shovlar Posted Saturday at 08:21 PM Report Share Posted Saturday at 08:21 PM Just now, Gladiatorphil said: Plymouth HL = 9pts Poole HL = 27pts Maybe Kerr isn't the problem ? 2,0,0,0. I think he was the problem. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted Saturday at 08:23 PM Report Share Posted Saturday at 08:23 PM 2 minutes ago, Sadman said: Shame the timeline kept slipping saw some bits 3 times. Then heat 14 total blank with message problem there end, Thought it was an issue my end. Had to keep refreshing it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted Saturday at 08:23 PM Report Share Posted Saturday at 08:23 PM 2 minutes ago, Steve Shovlar said: 2,0,0,0. I think he was the problem. Not sure you can blame it all on him though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted Saturday at 08:28 PM Report Share Posted Saturday at 08:28 PM Just now, LisaColette said: Not sure you can blame it all on him though. Well you can blame it on gate one, as it caused us problems when it mattered, but a second heatleader scoring 2 points is ridiculous. You can blame Matt Marson but that would be harsh. The rest more or less did their jobs, Rowe and Cook affected at the end by gate one. Plymouth just did their job and deserved it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted Saturday at 08:29 PM Report Share Posted Saturday at 08:29 PM 3 minutes ago, LisaColette said: Not sure you can blame it all on him though. I think you can blame most of it on him, 2 points from your second best rider! Who do you blame then? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted Saturday at 08:31 PM Report Share Posted Saturday at 08:31 PM 6 minutes ago, Gladiatorphil said: Plymouth HL = 9pts Poole HL = 27pts Maybe Kerr isn't the problem ? Actually it was Plymouth HL = 22 PTS Poole HL = 19 PTS Both teams has their 3rd heat leader riding at 4. Regardless Kerr has to be the one who would shoulder most of the blame for the loss. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted Saturday at 08:41 PM Report Share Posted Saturday at 08:41 PM 8 minutes ago, foreverblue said: I think you can blame most of it on him, 2 points from your second best rider! Who do you blame then? Why do you need to blame anyone? It's a team sport. Everyone has a bad meeting occasionally. Don't remember you two reacting like this in the playoff final when Tom only got 4 at Oxford. But as you say you don't want Lewi at Poole so it suits I guess. Maybe they should put him at 4 whilst settling in. But shame to split up Zach and Anders partnership which is working well already. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted Saturday at 08:45 PM Report Share Posted Saturday at 08:45 PM 1 minute ago, LisaColette said: Why do you need to blame anyone? It's a team sport. Everyone has a bad meeting occasionally. Don't remember you two reacting like this in the playoff final when Tom only got 4 at Oxford. But as you say you don't want Lewi at Poole so it suits I guess. Maybe they should put him at 4 whilst settling in. But shame to split up Zach and Anders partnership which is working well already. Tom had proved himself throughout the season. Kerr hasn’t proved himself and looks right off where he needs to be. When he was announced I was disappointed. Just feel his best days are behind him. Want to be proved wrong. Tonight felt like my opinion was about right. Let’s see how he does in the next few meetings. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gladiatorphil Posted Saturday at 09:01 PM Report Share Posted Saturday at 09:01 PM 56 minutes ago, Steve Shovlar said: Kerr a disgrace tonight. Not acceptable as the second heat leader. Well done Plymouth. We had gate 1 in the last two heats and had no chance around Plymouth. Rowe was off gate one in heat 15 and tried everything but without a chance. Kerr needs to be read the riot act. Had all winter to prepare and rides like a dog. Plymouth HL = 9pts Poole HL = 27pts Maybe Kerr isn't the problem ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted Saturday at 09:07 PM Report Share Posted Saturday at 09:07 PM 18 minutes ago, Steve Shovlar said: Tom had proved himself throughout the season. Kerr hasn’t proved himself and looks right off where he needs to be. When he was announced I was disappointed. Just feel his best days are behind him. Want to be proved wrong. Tonight felt like my opinion was about right. Let’s see how he does in the next few meetings. Kerr is still settling in. If he does it halfway through the season then I might agree with you. Plus Lewi has it harder than Tom as they put Tom at 3 for first few weeks of last season whilst he was settling in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted Saturday at 10:24 PM Report Share Posted Saturday at 10:24 PM 1 hour ago, LisaColette said: Kerr is still settling in. If he does it halfway through the season then I might agree with you. Plus Lewi has it harder than Tom as they put Tom at 3 for first few weeks of last season whilst he was settling in. Don’t think is up to the job expected of him.Time will tell though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted Saturday at 11:08 PM Report Share Posted Saturday at 11:08 PM 2 hours ago, LisaColette said: Why do you need to blame anyone? It's a team sport. Everyone has a bad meeting occasionally. Don't remember you two reacting like this in the playoff final when Tom only got 4 at Oxford. But as you say you don't want Lewi at Poole so it suits I guess. Maybe they should put him at 4 whilst settling in. But shame to split up Zach and Anders partnership which is working well already. A heat leader of Kerr's stature scoring 2 is awful, why not blame him, it was his fault, Why should he need to settle in? He has ridden all the tracks many times. I didn't say I did not want him, I said he was not a favourite of mine but while he rides for my team I will support him. He will come good I am sure, probably just an off night as he rode well for Sheffield the other day. I may have made a derogatory comment about Tom as at the time I felt he was doing too much and was obviously worn out. I was at Oxford that night so I may have commented, I cant remember but he certainly didnt let anyone down in the second leg so I expect Lewi will bounce back, better to have a bad night than get an injury or a re-occurrence of an old injury and he has had some bad ones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragdoll64 Posted Saturday at 11:36 PM Report Share Posted Saturday at 11:36 PM 20 minutes ago, foreverblue said: A heat leader of Kerr's stature scoring 2 is awful, why not blame him, it was his fault, Why should he need to settle in? He has ridden all the tracks many times. I didn't say I did not want him, I said he was not a favourite of mine but while he rides for my team I will support him. He will come good I am sure, probably just an off night as he rode well for Sheffield the other day. I may have made a derogatory comment about Tom as at the time I felt he was doing too much and was obviously worn out. I was at Oxford that night so I may have commented, I cant remember but he certainly didnt let anyone down in the second leg so I expect Lewi will bounce back, better to have a bad night than get an injury or a re-occurrence of an old injury and he has had some bad ones. Lol……those two highlighted comments did make me chuckle…….🤣…….I’m sure Lewi will relish your undying support. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddy The Rebel Posted Saturday at 11:47 PM Report Share Posted Saturday at 11:47 PM Think Kerr needs to move to number 3 imo takes the pressure of ht13 off him and give that no5 spot to Rowe who is much more consistent. Kerr away form is very alarming 7pts off 8 rides at this level a rider of his experience should be getting atleast 7/8pts,I must say I had my reservations aswell when I heard rumours just hoping the order is changed and he finds some form soon as in the big heats I just feel like we can’t rely on him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyler42 Posted Saturday at 11:53 PM Report Share Posted Saturday at 11:53 PM 3 hours ago, Steve Shovlar said: I guess I will get some grief from Gary tomorrow when I see him at Vitality. 😀 No doubt Plymouth benefitted from Barkers withdrawal but really Pirates should never have lost that. Heat 14 was so important and we had Zack on gate one. No way he was going to be able to out gate either Plymouth rider but what was a disaster was that Starke was in third and we needed Zack there. Race was lost after a lap. Rowe did everything in heat 15 to pass Thompson but he was such a disadvantage off the start he just couldn’t make up the ground. In the scheme of things not a complete disaster as we just need to beat Oxford at home to progress. Your Captain won the toss and chose 1-3 in heat one. Maybe he should have gone for choice of gate in heat 15 instead. It's a bit much to blame gate 1 for your loss. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triple.H. Posted Sunday at 07:38 AM Report Share Posted Sunday at 07:38 AM Is this the entitled Poole fans thread ? 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruckerroo Posted Sunday at 07:51 AM Report Share Posted Sunday at 07:51 AM 11 hours ago, Steve Shovlar said: Tom had proved himself throughout the season. Kerr hasn’t proved himself and looks right off where he needs to be. When he was announced I was disappointed. Just feel his best days are behind him. Want to be proved wrong. Tonight felt like my opinion was about right. Let’s see how he does in the next few meetings. Also you never get a full season out of him, extremely injury prone . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted Sunday at 09:48 AM Report Share Posted Sunday at 09:48 AM (edited) 13 hours ago, LisaColette said: Why do you need to blame anyone? It's a team sport. Everyone has a bad meeting occasionally. Don't remember you two reacting like this in the playoff final when Tom only got 4 at Oxford. But as you say you don't want Lewi at Poole so it suits I guess. Maybe they should put him at 4 whilst settling in. But shame to split up Zach and Anders partnership which is working well already. I wouldn't agree with that reasoning, he's been a Champ heat leader for about a decade, so shouldn't need time to settle in. If you think the team would be stronger with Zach or Anders at 5, by all means do it though. Edited Sunday at 09:49 AM by szkocjasid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trackrat Posted Sunday at 10:12 AM Report Share Posted Sunday at 10:12 AM 10 hours ago, tyler42 said: Your Captain won the toss and chose 1-3 in heat one. Maybe he should have gone for choice of gate in heat 15 instead. It's a bit much to blame gate 1 for your loss. Classic Shovlit, says anything to get a little bite. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadders Posted Sunday at 10:13 AM Report Share Posted Sunday at 10:13 AM Anyone is entitled to a bad night. And you wonder why everyone hates Poole. Entitled fu*kers 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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