Oxford v Ipswich Monday 7th July live on TV

[stevebrum]

5 hours ago, THE DEAN MACHINE said:

Because he is/was out injured otherwise he would have a club, if he knew he was going for a practice last night then he should of told Bham that if all went well he would be back, if he did and Bham didn’t want him then fine but did he tell them or did he just tell Ipswich ? If Birmingham redeclare him tomorrow or in next few days then it’s makes a complete mockery of the sport as a team sport, credibility is everything, speedway has non  and fans and I use the word lightly who don’t see the issue are the sycophants that are enabling the end of the sport in this country 

No one knows the circumstances behind this tho.

Maybe Birmingham are happy with Hagon and will cost them less money paying out for less points?

Maybe Edwards already told Birmingham he didn’t want to come back?

One thing that is usual tho is nothing remotely factual will be released to the public which is why it’s mockery. 

1 hour ago, SPEEDY69 said:

Well, contrary to all the constant moaners, I like Kelvin's commentary. He's enjoyable to listen to and him and Chris Louis do a good job. I don't t want to listen to some dull statto type. 

To be honest some whingers were calling for Pearson to be sacked for years. Nigel was a proper speedway person through and through.

Be careful what you wish for….. it could be worse you could have someone who has no idea about the sport like people like Abi who just paraphrases everything that the experts say in every interview. Even Tony Millard who made so many mistakes it was off putting. Yet again another none real speedway person.

Kelvin and Chris do a good job along with Scott. Kelvin is not a journalist like Nigel was but he is the best we have so far.

Dave Goddard and Dave Rowe do a decent job at what they do also btw.

[stevebrum]

Good win for the table toppers. They certainly made hard work of it. Although they would have had it sewn up well before the last race but for costly falls and exclusions for Doyle, King and Brennan. They just need to ensure all are firing by September and no team will touch them on form. 

[tyler42]

5 hours ago, Fourentee said:

...is, IMHO, the right answer as, indeed, would be Dave Goddard. Then Tatum could revert to his former analyst role, in which surely he would be more comfortable anyway.

I think Dave Rowe and different guests. Tatum's sell by date has well and truly expired. Some of his comments boarder on the insane. Considering he's a former rider. I get fed up with " I suggest" and other repeated one liners. Fair enough do them, but not every other bloody word. Just shows how a public schoolboy education goes a long way in the TV business 

 

[tyler42]

3 hours ago, stevebrum said:

No one knows the circumstances behind this tho.

Maybe Birmingham are happy with Hagon and will cost them less money paying out for less points?

Maybe Edwards already told Birmingham he didn’t want to come back?

One thing that is usual tho is nothing remotely factual will be released to the public which is why it’s mockery. 

To be honest some whingers were calling for Pearson to be sacked for years. Nigel was a proper speedway person through and through.

Be careful what you wish for….. it could be worse you could have someone who has no idea about the sport like people like Abi who just paraphrases everything that the experts say in every interview. Even Tony Millard who made so many mistakes it was off putting. Yet again another none real speedway person.

Kelvin and Chris do a good job along with Scott. Kelvin is not a journalist like Nigel was but he is the best we have so far.

Dave Goddard and Dave Rowe do a decent job at what they do also btw.

Dave Rowe far better commentator then Tatum could ever be IMO

[bigcatdiary]

7 hours ago, bellevueace said:

No idea Mate was he just replaced by the club as they thought a better option had become available? It seems the BSPL make it up as they go along.

So what’s new, they have been doing it consistently for decades

[Teromaafan]

9 hours ago, Panthers99 said:

I get Ollie Allen being professional and not calling Kelv out, but come on man.... 

Which then begs the question as to whether he never spotted the error!

[IainB]

33 minutes ago, Teromaafan said:

Which then begs the question as to whether he never spotted the error!

He's the Team GB Speedway manager... of course he did! Didn't he? Surely? Yes Definitely! Probably 🤷‍♂️

[Odds On]

really enjoy the Tatum and Nicholls combination, both have personalities and their own traits....would rather listen to ex riders who have some idea what they are talking about.....nobody has that close contact and "in" with the riders like Nicholls has.

For those moaning about Tatums gaff about only needing one point to win, if you knew at the time it was wrong what real difference did it make, did it spoil your viewing of heat 15?.

Some people on here would moan if you gave them a gold bar, moaning it was too heavy!

[marko]

There was a clip the other week about chirping and Kelvin had no idea what it was, even I know what chirping the clutch is.

[norbold]

35 minutes ago, Odds On said:

For those moaning about Tatums gaff about only needing one point to win, if you knew at the time it was wrong what real difference did it make, did it spoil your viewing of heat 15?.

 

Of course it didn't make any real difference to those of us here, but, it would be important to people new to speedway, the people we are trying to attract. It didn't happen, of course, but if Oxford had got a 5-1 in the final heat it might have left newcomers feeling very confused as to what was happening. That's the real problem with the gaffs Kelvin makes.

[CoffeeandTV]

1 minute ago, norbold said:

Of course it didn't make any real difference to those of us here, but, it would be important to people new to speedway, the people we are trying to attract. It didn't happen, of course, but if Oxford had got a 5-1 in the final heat it might have left newcomers feeling very confused as to what was happening. That's the real problem with the gaffs Kelvin makes.

Coming from a production background, I feel I have to say one thing. While Tatum's mistake was poor, I can't tell you how often this sort of error happens with commentators. The fact he then went on to say it multiples times suggests he was a bit confused about the situation, he obviously knows 45 points is not enough for to win the meeting.

The real alarming thing here is that not one member of the TNT production team told him of the error - which suggests they either are incredibly bad at their job, or simply don't know anything about speedway. Criticise Tatum all you want, but the TNT team should be taking far more heat. They are there to stop things like this happening and they didn't. Absolutely shocking.

[Odds On]

1 hour ago, norbold said:

Of course it didn't make any real difference to those of us here, but, it would be important to people new to speedway, the people we are trying to attract. It didn't happen, of course, but if Oxford had got a 5-1 in the final heat it might have left newcomers feeling very confused as to what was happening. That's the real problem with the gaffs Kelvin makes.

any newbie watching last nights meeting would have bigger questions than Tatums gaff...people on here sitting at home in their y fronts with the Lidl fan on, feet in a bowl of cold water, playing Neil Diamond on repeat on the TDK C90 tape they bought at the car boot sale , with the dog ten stone over weight licking its balls, neighbours next door not answering the door to the old bill, sitting with the laptop on just waiting for a commentators gaff, a riders mistake or a team mangers error.....gotta love us speedway fans haven't with we!!!

[michanekman]

1 hour ago, CoffeeandTV said:

Coming from a production background, I feel I have to say one thing. While Tatum's mistake was poor, I can't tell you how often this sort of error happens with commentators. The fact he then went on to say it multiples times suggests he was a bit confused about the situation, he obviously knows 45 points is not enough for to win the meeting.

The real alarming thing here is that not one member of the TNT production team told him of the error - which suggests they either are incredibly bad at their job, or simply don't know anything about speedway. Criticise Tatum all you want, but the TNT team should be taking far more heat. They are there to stop things like this happening and they didn't. Absolutely shocking.

Totally agree with this. We all sometimes have a brain freeze and get things like this wrong ... someone should have helped Kelvin out, whether Allen or someone from the production team. Very amateur of them. 

 

[stevebrum]

8 hours ago, tyler42 said:

Dave Rowe far better commentator then Tatum could ever be IMO

Yes he has a professional background unlike Tatum. 

[ytsejam]

It beggars belief that some in here are trying to make excuses for his embarrassing commentary for nearly ALL of last nights meeting. IF he had been someone plucked from the crowd to do the job as a one off because the normal commentator was sick or didn't turn up then it would be excusable BUT he's supposed to be professional commentator, who gets paid a good salary, travels the world etc. It's simply not good enough to make continued BEYOND basic mistakes like he does. Bring in Rowe or Goddard.

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[IainB]

2 hours ago, Odds On said:

any newbie watching last nights meeting would have bigger questions than Tatums gaff...people on here sitting at home in their y fronts with the Lidl fan on, feet in a bowl of cold water, playing Neil Diamond on repeat on the TDK C90 tape they bought at the car boot sale , with the dog ten stone over weight licking its balls, neighbours next door not answering the door to the old bill, sitting with the laptop on just waiting for a commentators gaff, a riders mistake or a team mangers error.....gotta love us speedway fans haven't with we!!!

... and if you're struggling to visualise that image:

 

[Odds On]

1 hour ago, IainB said:

... and if you're struggling to visualise that image:

 

could of put the kettle on fella!

[ShanoXtra]

4 hours ago, michanekman said:

Totally agree with this. We all sometimes have a brain freeze and get things like this wrong ... someone should have helped Kelvin out, whether Allen or someone from the production team. Very amateur of them. 

 

Chris Louis does actually correct Tatum sometimes so he does help the situation, I think he sometimes feels embarrassed for Tatum and doesn’t want to constantly correct him.

[old bob at herne bay]

The more I see of the latest  riding by Jason Doyle , he reminds me of a Mr N. Pedersen at the tail end of his SGP career. Always making poorly timed lunges into disappearing gaps, and sadly getting himself injured. 

Knocking off your team mate is inexcusble for a rider of his experience. 

 

 

[foreverblue]

19 minutes ago, old bob at herne bay said:

The more I see of the latest  riding by Jason Doyle , he reminds me of a Mr N. Pedersen at the tail end of his SGP career. Always making poorly timed lunges into disappearing gaps, and sadly getting himself injured. 

Knocking off your team mate is inexcusble for a rider of his experience. 

 

 

That is ridiculous, there is no comparison between dirty Nicki and Jason Doyle.