TheSmiler Posted July 8 Report Share Posted July 8 (edited) Having watched last night’s TNT meeting from Oxford and once again noticing barely any attendance… this surely cannot be viable for anyone involved. It’s clear that the big boys being over here hasn’t improved anything and we are losing yet more tracks year after year. It’s time to talk about the future of speedway in the UK and how it can survive. Is it time for one league, smaller squads and the removal of the big names? Let’s open the discussion. Edited July 8 by TheSmiler Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrss Posted July 8 Report Share Posted July 8 Not enough riders for 1 league. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eric i Posted July 8 Report Share Posted July 8 I don't think it could happen unless you went down to 5 man teams there wouldn't be the riders available. Far more likely a team will be convinced to move up and run with a less than ideal 6 team league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted July 8 Report Share Posted July 8 Yes... next question please 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSmiler Posted July 8 Author Report Share Posted July 8 9 minutes ago, mrss said: Not enough riders for 1 league. This is why I referred to “smaller squads”… I am wondering if British Speedway should use the Danish format moving forward. Something has to give. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrss Posted July 8 Report Share Posted July 8 If it goes down to five riders in a team, there still won’t be enough riders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted July 8 Report Share Posted July 8 No its not time for 1 league now - it was 5 years ago..... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpeedwayJoe Posted July 8 Report Share Posted July 8 Whatever happens, something radical must happen at the AGM. I would like someone independent to come in and look at the sport from a different perspective. We may not like it, but we need some outside-of-the-box thinking if we want speedway to survive and appeal to a new audience. It may be a risky move but at the moment, what does speedway have to loose? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teromaafan Posted July 8 Report Share Posted July 8 The major impact of a bigger league is the current reliance of riders on doubling up to make their money. Doing away with doubling up (which let’s face it has become an uncontrollable monster) will significantly diminish UK earning potential. Even in a bigger league with more teams, there will be fewer meetings overall than current double uppers rely onto earn a crust. Quite a few riders might then have to decide if they can make the sport pay and possibly consider calling it a day. The obvious rider shortage potentially then gets even worse! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur54 Posted July 8 Report Share Posted July 8 30 minutes ago, Teromaafan said: The major impact of a bigger league is the current reliance of riders on doubling up to make their money. Doing away with doubling up (which let’s face it has become an uncontrollable monster) will significantly diminish UK earning potential. Even in a bigger league with more teams, there will be fewer meetings overall than current double uppers rely onto earn a crust. Quite a few riders might then have to decide if they can make the sport pay and possibly consider calling it a day. The obvious rider shortage potentially then gets even worse! 2 home and 2 away, perhaps would help Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1 valve Posted July 8 Report Share Posted July 8 1 minute ago, Arthur54 said: 2 home and 2 away, perhaps would help That’s what there is now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singy13 Posted July 8 Report Share Posted July 8 51 minutes ago, mrss said: If it goes down to five riders in a team, there still won’t be enough riders. Yes there will be enough riders for the 13 teams in one league. Out of the current teams we'll lose Birmingham, Workington - and Oxford will run with just one team. Spare riders galore then. Obviously some juniors will be in many line-ups. a good learning curve. But each race has just one winner whatever - and the more variety will be attractive for fans. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WookieboyDon Posted July 8 Report Share Posted July 8 (edited) 1 hour ago, TheSmiler said: Having watched last night’s TNT meeting from Oxford and once again noticing barely any attendance… this surely cannot be viable for anyone involved. It’s clear that the big boys being over here hasn’t improved anything and we are losing yet more tracks year after year. It’s time to talk about the future of speedway in the UK and how it can survive. Is it time for one league, smaller squads and the removal of the big names? Let’s open the discussion. Not sure what you were watching. Healthy crowd in the stand, healthier standing in front of it, and quite a few on bends three and four. But yes, there should be one league. Five riders in each team like Denmark, rider grading needs to be introduced. Edited July 8 by WookieboyDon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hasta la vista Posted July 8 Report Share Posted July 8 14 minutes ago, WookieboyDon said: Not sure what you were watching. Healthy crowd in the stand, healthier standing in front of it, and quite a few on bends three and four. But yes, there should be one league. Five riders in each team like Denmark, rider grading needs to be introduced. There was no one there. About 30 people standing on those bends. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur54 Posted July 8 Report Share Posted July 8 24 minutes ago, 1 valve said: That’s what there is now. Not for us championship teams Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heathen52 Posted July 8 Report Share Posted July 8 Yes it's long overdue, yes the riders are going to cry that can't make it pay, yes the tuners are going to cry, yes the standard will drop but in the long term this will be the only way Speedway will survive in the Uk because it has been unviable for many seasons now, semi pro riders is the way forward, perhaps the only way. 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1 valve Posted July 8 Report Share Posted July 8 13 minutes ago, Arthur54 said: Not for us championship teams One league, no doubling up, using riders of competitive ability based on current riders racing in UK could stretch to fielding no more than eight teams. (It’s the math). Thus two home, two away fixtures would be as current in Prem and the end of professional speedway at the majority of tracks currently operating today - maybe not a bad thing - just a reset and a welcome to the real world 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WookieboyDon Posted July 8 Report Share Posted July 8 54 minutes ago, hasta la vista said: There was no one there. About 30 people standing on those bends. Just watched back the highlights. Clearly way more than 30 on three and four. And big crowd standing in front of stand as well as those inside. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hasta la vista Posted July 8 Report Share Posted July 8 41 minutes ago, WookieboyDon said: Just watched back the highlights. Clearly way more than 30 on three and four. And big crowd standing in front of stand as well as those inside. There was around 200-300 people max in that stand on the home straight in a small area. Bearing in mind that their break even will be around 1200, where are the other thousand? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShanoXtra Posted July 8 Report Share Posted July 8 1 hour ago, hasta la vista said: There was around 200-300 people max in that stand on the home straight in a small area. Bearing in mind that their break even will be around 1200, where are the other thousand? Do they not have people sitting in the restaurant as well though ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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