40-38 Posted Monday at 10:34 AM Report Share Posted Monday at 10:34 AM 1 hour ago, mikebv said: One of the biggest (non self inflicted), reasons for the demise of the sport for me.... As an example, I ran a supermarket in Bradford with over 30,000 customers, with an 80% "Asian" customer base.. Many major cities and towns have changed demographically, hugely, since the halcyon days of the 60's... And also became filled with commercial and apartment buildings, rather than the replaced traditional terraced residential properties which used to hold "working class" families, who made up a huge portion of the fanbase for many tracks... You could argue that any successful sport needs to attract people it didn't before. Look at football, they have huge ethnic followings for what in the 60s and 70s was very much a white working class sport. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted Monday at 11:04 AM Report Share Posted Monday at 11:04 AM 26 minutes ago, 40-38 said: You could argue that any successful sport needs to attract people it didn't before. Look at football, they have huge ethnic followings for what in the 60s and 70s was very much a white working class sport. 100%... Without doubt, hardly anything, (if anything at all), has been done to engage those different ethnically diverse communities now found around many track locations.. But, you could also say the same about engaging the indigenous population who make up the majority of the fanbase too... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawk127 Posted Monday at 06:25 PM Report Share Posted Monday at 06:25 PM 7 hours ago, mikebv said: 100%... Without doubt, hardly anything, (if anything at all), has been done to engage those different ethnically diverse communities now found around many track locations.. But, you could also say the same about engaging the indigenous population who make up the majority of the fanbase too... The only thing the powers that be are engaged in are their own self importance. No chance of thinking outside the box and looking at the demographic of the potential audience. I am assuming that they can spell and understand the definition of demographic. One lives in hope but cannot fail to be disappointed by the actions of a few who have brought the sport to its knees. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebaron Posted 14 hours ago Report Share Posted 14 hours ago Has somebody in the BSPL cocked up here and ended up in a Bra-field in Northamptonshire when they should have gone to Brad-ford in West Yorkshire ? Is this not exactly why Speedway is failing to as a professional sport. There we have a proper stadium - Odsal with a world class track, all the history, Yet the BSPL would rather take it to an outpost, in a shell of a stadium with zero history. I really cannot see the point in wasting time on Northampton, look to your heartlands BSPL if you want to grow the sport. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bendover11 Posted 13 hours ago Report Share Posted 13 hours ago That would be the same Bradford in west Yorkshire that has kicked stock cars out of odsal, despite still having a year left on the lease 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MajorMauger Posted 13 hours ago Report Share Posted 13 hours ago The BSPL are desperate for the top flight to increase in track numbers. I suspect both Northampton and Bradford would struggle to get viable crowds. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.D Posted 5 hours ago Report Share Posted 5 hours ago I know they approached the Dugard's at Eastbourne but like us, was told flatly no. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted 4 hours ago Report Share Posted 4 hours ago 28 minutes ago, M.D said: I know they approached the Dugard's at Eastbourne but like us, was told flatly no. So the 6th team, looks like a "joint venture" led by all/some of the existing promoters?.. Makes sense from a shared loss point of view... But seriously, why bother? It wont give any more credibility to any of the trophies to be won across all leagues, as the operating model used will still stay exactly the same as always.. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lefty Posted 3 hours ago Report Share Posted 3 hours ago How about a combined venture involving Northampton & Ipswich which could run as Northwich. The only problem is sat-nav would send fans to Cheshire and we would probably be looking for a track at Oulton Park!!! 🤔 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveWayne Posted 2 hours ago Report Share Posted 2 hours ago 11 hours ago, Bendover11 said: That would be the same Bradford in west Yorkshire that has kicked stock cars out of odsal, despite still having a year left on the lease The lease was far longer than that. I believe there were about 17 years left. The rubgy club have even lifted the shale without telling the stock car promoters !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted 1 hour ago Report Share Posted 1 hour ago 4 minutes ago, DaveWayne said: The lease was far longer than that. I believe there were about 17 years left. The rubgy club have even lifted the shale without telling the stock car promoters !! Surely that would be classed as criminal damage..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WRDukes Posted 1 hour ago Report Share Posted 1 hour ago 12 hours ago, Bendover11 said: That would be the same Bradford in west Yorkshire that has kicked stock cars out of odsal, despite still having a year left on the lease https://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/sport/sportlatest/25798766.fans-upset-odsal-may-not-host-stock-car-racing-year/?fbclid=IwY2xjawPlz8FleHRuA2FlbQIxMABicmlkETBmQ2pZNGRtMEh4eng4cmNac3J0YwZhcHBfaWQQMjIyMDM5MTc4ODIwMDg5MgABHgEB1L90evVerLc6__3E67FcocdxydC1gte9f2W9bCcEyIrpA5cjf4wV2Xps_aem_fsn0R95MUsJD6HB89cwaCw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petecc Posted 39 minutes ago Report Share Posted 39 minutes ago On 1/26/2026 at 11:04 AM, mikebv said: 100%... Without doubt, hardly anything, (if anything at all), has been done to engage those different ethnically diverse communities now found around many track locations.. But, you could also say the same about engaging the indigenous population who make up the majority of the fanbase too... Perry barr was in that very diverse community that you talk about and they couldn't care less about speedway. I know, we tried Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YeOldPitGate Posted 31 minutes ago Report Share Posted 31 minutes ago Hopefully Ipswich will get over the line and if it does I would have thought Northampton will be canned as I'm more getting the impression its back up plan z if Ipswich falls through. Some credit is due if its existing prem promoters who are going to underwrite the expected losses to keep the top league going but as 99% of us on here have said at some point they are going to have to accept the current format just doesn't work anymore and the only way forward unless Futures really do come through is paring back the product to most likely championship lite standard and starting again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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