Plymouth (42) v (48) Poole

[StevePark]

11 hours ago, lewy said:

Bore off all you do on this forum is go on all the threads nit picking and offering up your opinions on anything and everything which is usually wrong and just getting on everyone's **,I think i can safely say I'm not the only one who thinks this.

Firstly, put him/her on "ignore" then, plus you don't have to reply to anything he/she might say.

Secondly (where you say) "offering up your opinions on anything and everything", that is what the Forum should be about, not the endless bickering and name calling which it now, nearly always, descends into.

[jbell1995]

1 hour ago, foreverblue said:

Well I bought the stream which I must was excellent no issues at all, very good production and unbiased commentary although got a bit understandably excited towards the end.  They even said Kerr was not at fault in their eyes in heat 3 or heat 12 from their angle but obviously the ref had a different view. 

Glad you enjoyed the coverage foreverblue, I'm not going to apologise for being excited at the end though 😅 Weirdly, I've only been available for three fixtures on Gladiators TV this season, all three against Poole. It's nothing personal I promise!

I stand by my comments regarding Kerr. I was a little surprised, I can see the arguments both ways on the separate incidents. I always try and keep my views unbiased despite wanting Plymouth to win every heat. I'm a sports fan and want to see the right outcome for every event so I will say it how I see it, regardless of my allegiance. On this occasion, the referee saw it differently. I'm sure in a fortnight's time when I do the Berwick fixture I'll see things differently again to certain incidents.

[Catalan]

1 hour ago, foreverblue said:

Well I bought the stream which I must was excellent no issues at all, very good production and unbiased commentary although got a bit understandably excited towards the end.  They even said Kerr was not at fault in their eyes in heat 3 or heat 12 from their angle but obviously the ref had a different view. 

Not if he used the stream to make a decision

[Bald Bloke]

2 hours ago, HGould said:

Massive credit to Ben Barker

That performance with the injuries he had would be up there with some of the old Peter Collins and Kenny Carter feats of the past.

 

 

 

 

 

Take note Ben Cook!!

[Steve Shovlar]

3 hours ago, Pirates Of Poole said:

Well done to Plymouth last night and especially Ben Barker, fantastic meeting. The inconsistency continues for Poole time and time again and that will be our downfall. Building next years team based on last nights performance we really need to have a clear out, some riders have got stale and need to move on.

Completely agree. Richard Lawson, Will Cairns, perhaps Anders Rowe. That’s it. Tobias Thomsen tries his heart out, no doubt about it, but he is at his level of ability and doubt will progress further. Starke, thank you and goodbye, Kerr ditto. 

As for Captain Cook, he clearly is saving himself for the PL and is going through the motions. Not good enough attitude, sorry to say and is not performing to the required standard. Time for him to move on elsewhere. 

The team is lacking the expected Poole passion. Where was the grit showed by Barker last night? Completely absent. It must have been a highly frustrating meeting for Middlo last night. Having to use Tobias in heat 15 showed it was game over. Not Captain Cook, not Kerr, our other heat leaders, and the bottle or wherewithal to put their hands up and say they would take the ride. 

[SteveArena]

Who would you bring in SS to replace the riders you want gone?

[lewy]

7 minutes ago, SteveArena said:

Who would you bring in SS to replace the riders you want gone?

Could you discuss this on the Poole thread, this is the thread to discuss another epic night of speedway in Plymouth, thank you

 

[foreverblue]

1 hour ago, Catalan said:

Not if he used the stream to make a decision

Maybe he should have.

[SteveLyric2]

1 hour ago, jbell1995 said:

Glad you enjoyed the coverage foreverblue, I'm not going to apologise for being excited at the end though 😅 Weirdly, I've only been available for three fixtures on Gladiators TV this season, all three against Poole. It's nothing personal I promise!

I stand by my comments regarding Kerr. I was a little surprised, I can see the arguments both ways on the separate incidents. I always try and keep my views unbiased despite wanting Plymouth to win every heat. I'm a sports fan and want to see the right outcome for every event so I will say it how I see it, regardless of my allegiance. On this occasion, the referee saw it differently. I'm sure in a fortnight's time when I do the Berwick fixture I'll see things differently again to certain incidents.

As a matter of interest and from your track experience what is your estimate of the attendance numbers last night?

Edited 7 hours ago by SteveLyric2

[Gavan]

2 hours ago, Steve Shovlar said:

Completely agree. Richard Lawson, Will Cairns, perhaps Anders Rowe. That’s it. Tobias Thomsen tries his heart out, no doubt about it, but he is at his level of ability and doubt will progress further. Starke, thank you and goodbye, Kerr ditto. 

As for Captain Cook, he clearly is saving himself for the PL and is going through the motions. Not good enough attitude, sorry to say and is not performing to the required standard. Time for him to move on elsewhere. 

The team is lacking the expected Poole passion. Where was the grit showed by Barker last night? Completely absent. It must have been a highly frustrating meeting for Middlo last night. Having to use Tobias in heat 15 showed it was game over. Not Captain Cook, not Kerr, our other heat leaders, and the bottle or wherewithal to put their hands up and say they would take the ride. 

Rowe has been poor recently … why you think he did ok with 6 from 4 yet Kerr is a scapegoat with 5 from 2 rides ….

Why does Rowe get a free pass … Kerr is riding better 

In July at home Kerr has scored 7,10,11,10,11

Rowe in the same meetings scored 5,6,6,9,8

Kerr is clearly not the issue

[lewy]

One benefit of getting newbies in is after such an entertaining meeting which both sides contributed to a middle aged couple in  the hospitality suite actually asked if they could leave a tip anywhere. Nice gesture Plymouth must be doing something right! You don't have to be top of the league to provide a great night out.

[SPEEDY69]

16 hours ago, szkocjasid said:

Just seen a video of heat 3. Looked like Fredriksen picked up on his own & crashed, but then Kerr clipped Joe T & they both came down.

Could have excluded both Fredriksen & Kerr imo.

Agree, although he didn't clip Thompson he rode straight into him! 

[Jonnybegood]

1 hour ago, SteveLyric2 said:

As a matter of interest and from your track experience what is your estimate of the attendance numbers last night?

 

1 hour ago, SteveLyric2 said:

As a matter of interest and from your track experience what is your estimate of the attendance numbers last night?

Around a thousand

[jbell1995]

1 hour ago, SteveLyric2 said:

As a matter of interest and from your track experience what is your estimate of the attendance numbers last night?

I agree with the post above, I'd estimate at the very lowest figure around 900, it looked, felt and sounded to me to be a crowd size of four figures last night. One of the best nights I've had at Plymouth Speedway and I've been going since 2009

[SteveLyric2]

17 minutes ago, jbell1995 said:

I agree with the post above, I'd estimate at the very lowest figure around 900, it looked, felt and sounded to me to be a crowd size of four figures last night. One of the best nights I've had at Plymouth Speedway and I've been going since 2009

Thank-you.  Any idea what the maximum capacity is? Eg health and safety wise?

[foreverblue]

1 hour ago, Gavan said:

Rowe has been poor recently … why you think he did ok with 6 from 4 yet Kerr is a scapegoat with 5 from 2 rides ….

Why does Rowe get a free pass … Kerr is riding better 

In July at home Kerr has scored 7,10,11,10,11

Rowe in the same meetings scored 5,6,6,9,8

Kerr is clearly not the issue

Kerr is riding better now and unlucky last night but based on the season as a whole Anders has been better, whether he is worth keeping I dont know.  It has been a up and down season for most of them. I am hoping Zach is keeping his best for the play offs because he is the biggest worry at the moment.

[SteveLyric2]

9 minutes ago, foreverblue said:

Kerr is riding better now and unlucky last night but based on the season as a whole Anders has been better, whether he is worth keeping I dont know.  It has been a up and down season for most of them. I am hoping Zach is keeping his best for the play offs because he is the biggest worry at the moment.

Rowe has been carrying groin and left arm injuries recently, which may have something to do with his loss of form.

[foreverblue]

8 minutes ago, SteveLyric2 said:

Rowe has been carrying groin and left arm injuries recently, which may have something to do with his loss of form.

Oh ok I did think it might be an injury but its helping his average so not all bad. I was critical of Kerr before but 5 points with two exclusions is good really and it could be argued he should have been in heat 15. I am not worried about Zach's score last night but he has not been that great at home either which is more concerning.

[Steve Shovlar]

1 minute ago, foreverblue said:

Oh ok I did think it might be an injury but it’s helping his average so not all bad. I was critical of Kerr before but 5 points with two exclusions is good really and it could be argued he should have been in heat 15. I am not worried about Zach's score last night but he has not been that great at home either which is more concerning.

So why wasn’t Kerr out in heat 15? He wasn’t injured and was excluded twice. Either he didn’t fancy it and so let the team down, or there’s something deeper going on. Tobias was never going to score in heat 15. So Lawson had to win it to go to a superheat. And then it would have resulted in a defeat because it’s highly unlikely Tobias would have held off Barker or Nicholls. Complete crap show.

[Triple.H.]

3 minutes ago, Steve Shovlar said:

So why wasn’t Kerr out in heat 15? He wasn’t injured and was excluded twice. Either he didn’t fancy it and so let the team down, or there’s something deeper going on. Tobias was never going to score in heat 15. So Lawson had to win it to go to a superheat. And then it would have resulted in a defeat because it’s highly unlikely Tobias would have held off Barker or Nicholls. Complete crap show.

Kerr is probably fed up with your non stop whinging.