Phannan Posted 5 hours ago Report Share Posted 5 hours ago (edited) 15 hours ago, Col said: Wouldn't bother giving Doyle another PWC, all he is likely to do is injure himself or another rider... Fricke is worth another PWC. If no Laguta & Sayfutdinov... I think I'd give Parnitskyi & Cierniak a go, they'll finish 14th & 15th but so would Kvech & Huckenbeck. Woffinden got a pick in 2011 and struggled badly was frankly uncompetitive... dropped out in 2012 but qualified for and won 2013. Who's to say Parnitskyi couldn't do the same. Totally agree about Doyle . And Parnitskyi should be included as this year’s GP2 winner. Makes total sense to promote the winner of that series every year . That way we’re guaranteed at least 1 new face. And a good one at that. Give youth a chance I reckon. Edited 5 hours ago by Phannan Misspelling Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OveFundinFan Posted 4 hours ago Report Share Posted 4 hours ago 46 minutes ago, Phannan said: Totally agree about Doyle . And Parnitskyi should be included as this year’s GP2 winner. Makes total sense to promote the winner of that series every year . That way we’re guaranteed at least 1 new face. And a good one at that. Give youth a chance I reckon. To big a jump too soon for the likes Parnitsky, Przjemski or Cierniak. Few years ago the hot under 21's were Drabik and Smektala....they still not made it. More recent Jaimon Lindsey hasn't made it but Kubera has. There must be someone else in the Polish standings, surely. Someone made a comment sometimes last week that some of the GP riders need a shaking....they treating the GP as an easy way of making pocket money, the real money is in Polish league racing with high points money. I somewhat agree with that. Why risk a big injury in a GP and miss out losing earnings in the league. Zmarzlik is streets ahead of everyone including Kurtz, who is a fast gater but can he pass Zmarzlik like I think Zmarzlik would Kurtz if he really needed to. I doubt it. All others against Zmarzlik hope they can gate him and then he gets stuck behind another rider for a couple laps then they have a chance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShanoXtra Posted 3 hours ago Report Share Posted 3 hours ago 1 hour ago, OveFundinFan said: To big a jump too soon for the likes Parnitsky, Przjemski or Cierniak. Few years ago the hot under 21's were Drabik and Smektala....they still not made it. More recent Jaimon Lindsey hasn't made it but Kubera has. There must be someone else in the Polish standings, surely. Someone made a comment sometimes last week that some of the GP riders need a shaking....they treating the GP as an easy way of making pocket money, the real money is in Polish league racing with high points money. I somewhat agree with that. Why risk a big injury in a GP and miss out losing earnings in the league. Zmarzlik is streets ahead of everyone including Kurtz, who is a fast gater but can he pass Zmarzlik like I think Zmarzlik would Kurtz if he really needed to. I doubt it. All others against Zmarzlik hope they can gate him and then he gets stuck behind another rider for a couple laps then they have a chance. Why is it too big of a jump for Przyjemski when he is 7th in the overall averages of the Ekstraliga? He is ahead of 11 of this years SGP riders in the hardest league in the sport, for comparison Kvech is 37th. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shockster Posted 2 hours ago Report Share Posted 2 hours ago Przyjemski's average is false as has all the junior races. Too soon for him. Becker would be a nonsence!!!! Get Drabik in if anyone from the Ekstraliga with no GP experience. Cerniak is not good enough and found it tough since put into the main team. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eric i Posted 2 hours ago Report Share Posted 2 hours ago 1 hour ago, ShanoXtra said: Why is it too big of a jump for Przyjemski when he is 7th in the overall averages of the Ekstraliga? He is ahead of 11 of this years SGP riders in the hardest league in the sport, for comparison Kvech is 37th. He rides at reserve so he has easier rides and this inflates his average Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShanoXtra Posted 1 hour ago Report Share Posted 1 hour ago 18 hours ago, Col said: Wouldn't bother giving Doyle another PWC, all he is likely to do is injure himself or another rider... Fricke is worth another PWC. If no Laguta & Sayfutdinov... I think I'd give Parnitskyi & Cierniak a go, they'll finish 14th & 15th but so would Kvech & Huckenbeck. Woffinden got a pick in 2011 and struggled badly was frankly uncompetitive... dropped out in 2012 but qualified for and won 2013. Who's to say Parnitskyi couldn't do the same. Pathetic to say Doyle would ‘likely’ injury another rider, because he actually tries to win and not a push over doesn’t mean he will ‘likely’ injury someone. Fricke is not worthy over Doyle. Fricke has done well in Britain and that’s it, very average in SGP, and finished below Doyle in Ekstraliga averages which tells you the levels. Fricke didn’t miss any GPs but Doyle did and Fricke only beat him by 13 points. Cierniak is nowhere near good enough for SGP. He finished 22nd in league averages, people want competitive riders not just random ones, an actually logical shout would be Drabik who finished 11th in averages. Parnitskyi is not SGP level, because he won SGP2 (due to Przyjemskis injury) doesn’t mean he is worthy of SGP. He is in M.2 league so hasn’t even proved himself in the top league. Even in M.2 he finished 10th in averages, again, a logical choice for SGP would be Przyjemski who actually races again these guys regularly and sits at 7th in the averages of the top league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShanoXtra Posted 1 hour ago Report Share Posted 1 hour ago 26 minutes ago, Shockster said: Przyjemski's average is false as has all the junior races. Too soon for him. Becker would be a nonsence!!!! Get Drabik in if anyone from the Ekstraliga with no GP experience. Cerniak is not good enough and found it tough since put into the main team. The next junior is 22nd, Przyjemski often beats top riders in Ekstraliga too so I think you are doing him a disservice with that comment, 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shockster Posted 1 hour ago Report Share Posted 1 hour ago 1 minute ago, ShanoXtra said: The next junior is 22nd, Przyjemski often beats top riders in Ekstraliga too so I think you are doing him a disservice with that comment, He is the best junior, I don't think that's up for debate, but his average is false versus riders in the main body of teams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShanoXtra Posted 1 hour ago Report Share Posted 1 hour ago 8 minutes ago, Shockster said: He is the best junior, I don't think that's up for debate, but his average is false versus riders in the main body of teams. Ok as people are thinking his average doesn’t show his level. His last race before his injury… Lublin vs Falubaz Heat 15: 1st - Przyjemski 2nd - Madsen 3rd - Pawlicki Heat 8: 1st - Zmarzlik 2nd - Przyjemski 3rd - Pawlicki Heat 4: 1sr Lindgren 2nd - Przyjemski 3rd - Pawlicki This is just his last meeting. He beats top riders regularly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shockster Posted 1 hour ago Report Share Posted 1 hour ago I agree, he has a big future and is moral U21 winner, but personally think it's too soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShanoXtra Posted 1 hour ago Report Share Posted 1 hour ago (edited) 11 minutes ago, Shockster said: I agree, he has a big future and is moral U21 winner, but personally think it's too soon. I’d throw him in and see if he sinks or swim, rather him than Kvech or Kai personally. He even beat Łaguta and Bewley against Wroclaw this year. So he can mix it with the big boys. Also beat Woryna, MJJ, this year and they are the Grand Prix next year. And Kvech and Thomsen who were in this year’s SGP… and taking scalps of Holder, Tungate and Pludra, Kowalski, Jensen, Hampel amongst others. Edited 54 minutes ago by ShanoXtra . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shockster Posted 58 minutes ago Report Share Posted 58 minutes ago Kvech's had his chance and so has Kai, so no arguments there, but I'd rather have Doyle at the moment as adds spice. Each to their own I suppose. One thing for sure is that the 3 wildcards won't be universally welcomed no matter who they are. 😂 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shockster Posted 57 minutes ago Report Share Posted 57 minutes ago Emil & Artem should be first 2 but won't be. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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