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10 minutes ago, THE DEAN MACHINE said:

This is a little story from the year after I finished, Buxton had a home match and had 2 riders missing as I think 1  was injured and the other rider had a match for his championship team on the same day so Buxton booked a guest,and used RR for the number 1, this guest was no superstar but it was the only rider really available, he wanted £35 per point plus Tavel plus a tyre plus fuel and he wanted a hotel for him and his Mrs as he was riding somewhere else the next day so was not going home, he was booked to ride at number 4 but on the morning of the match the championship match was called off so the number 4 was able to ride,so Buxton told the guest he would ride at number1 to which he said he wanted an extra £5 per point, for what exactly? ,the meeting was rained off anyway but he still wanted his hotel paid as he was still riding the next day,that was the sort of thing which killed off Buxton, well that and some teams paying gaurentees of £500 for their stars, I’m blowing my own trumpet here but when they had the chance the bspl should of put me in charge of the national league the day I retired. 

But! But! But!....

Just think of the massive publicity and financial rewards on offer for winning the NDL!!!!

:D...

Absolute crackers isn't it?

Someone really needs to save this sport, and whoever it is, needs to start with saving the promoters from themselves...

 

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4 hours ago, THE DEAN MACHINE said:

This is a little story from the year after I finished, Buxton had a home match and had 2 riders missing as I think 1  was injured and the other rider had a match for his championship team on the same day so Buxton booked a guest,and used RR for the number 1, this guest was no superstar but it was the only rider really available, he wanted £35 per point plus Tavel plus a tyre plus fuel and he wanted a hotel for him and his Mrs as he was riding somewhere else the next day so was not going home, he was booked to ride at number 4 but on the morning of the match the championship match was called off so the number 4 was able to ride,so Buxton told the guest he would ride at number1 to which he said he wanted an extra £5 per point, for what exactly? ,the meeting was rained off anyway but he still wanted his hotel paid as he was still riding the next day,that was the sort of thing which killed off Buxton, well that and some teams paying gaurentees of £500 for their stars, I’m blowing my own trumpet here but when they had the chance the bspl should of put me in charge of the national league the day I retired. 

Judging by your insight, experience and knowledge - you are probably right.

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5 hours ago, Petecc said:

Part of the problem is those who sit a home and do nothing and then moan about it on forums

But what can we do as fans/supporters? I have said for a number of years, speedway is not 'squaring the circle' (cost wise), no pun intended. While you have riders expecting extreme fees/wages for their services, with a mediocre fan base, it's not financially sustainable/viable. The only chance for speedway to survive, is somehow, reduce costs for the riders and the fans. Otherwise speedway will need to 'shut up shop' in it's current format.  

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13 hours ago, Petecc said:

Part of the problem is those who sit a home and do nothing and then moan about it on forums

Mostly voting with their feet. The tangible change the average fan can make is turning up weekly and putting their money in the till. By not doing so they’re showing they aren’t happy with the product. That’s when the supplier needs to step up and win them back. The sport isn’t doing that these days for the most part. 

There’s absolutely a negativity bias in the world but forums and social media can be the only place for fans to vent their frustrations. 

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21 hours ago, mikebv said:

But! But! But!....

Just think of the massive publicity and financial rewards on offer for winning the NDL!!!!

:D...

Absolute crackers isn't it?

Someone really needs to save this sport, and whoever it is, needs to start with saving the promoters from themselves...

 

I understand that that is still happening today. I was speaking to the Leicester Team Manager who said that getting guests was hard as they paid what the league suggests and riders with a little experience want more than this. 

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14 minutes ago, SJA said:

I understand that that is still happening today. I was speaking to the Leicester Team Manager who said that getting guests was hard as they paid what the league suggests and riders with a little experience want more than this. 

Yes it is because the sport is run by the riders for the riders 

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37 minutes ago, SJA said:

I understand that that is still happening today. I was speaking to the Leicester Team Manager who said that getting guests was hard as they paid what the league suggests and riders with a little experience want more than this. 

If all of the promoters actually agreed to adopt the “suggestion” as an “agreement” it would end the riders demanding more who will continue to do so simply because in the meantime some promoters will continue to pay more than the “suggestion”. 
Of course even if the suggestion was adopted as a rule the challenge would be to prevent the same promoters working around the agreement/rule in search of glory and ignoring the basics of cost control for the betterment of the sport rather than their own interests.  
 

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