The White Knight Posted 15 hours ago Report Share Posted 15 hours ago How do they get away with increasing prices for a semi final anyway. No the wonder people are slowly drifting away from Speedway, fleecing the punters is certainly not encouraging the public to attend. These days, when money is tight, to say the least, it just makes the Promoters look like money grabbing sharks. They should be rewarding their loyal Supporters with discounts, not making them pay through the nose. I don't agree with the 'play offs' anyway, but this takes the biscuit. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted 14 hours ago Report Share Posted 14 hours ago 43 minutes ago, Gavan said: I doubt many Ipswich fans would go to Manchester on a Monday night with the home leg on Thursday and who can blame them … same maybe said for Belle Vue on Thursday they might not travel as it isn’t the final As I mentioned before... Around 150 Aces fans attended the first leg of the POSF a couple of years ago on the Thursday at Foxhall... It seems there is a lack of belief in how important the competition actually is nowadays, such is the amount of apathy shown by so many not attending from both teams last night.. Given how the sport is ran, I cannot blame them, however, it must be worrying for promoters when even semi finals cannot get enough people interested from both sides.. Weather permitting, I am sure Ipswich will get a decent crowd, but I don't think 150 Aces fans will be there this time... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrystalCastles Posted 14 hours ago Report Share Posted 14 hours ago 6 hours ago, mikebv said: I would estimate about 2000 Max... The mainstand was about half full (900 or so), with possibly over 1000 on the back straight (there was still loads of room there)... There was the usual lack of local promoting of the play offs, however, I believe Granada Reports mentioned it at around half six, (just over an hour before start!)... Amazed people didn't put their teas down and get themselves down there!!! I have only been once this season so I got there around 6.45 to try and get a space on Kirky Lane, (as I remember these spaces usually get filled quickly), and half the road was available, which tended to suggest there and then that the crowd wasn't going to be "bumper".. I have said many times, Speedway needs to find a way to get Away Fans in attendance in decent numbers... There may have been Witches fans there last night but they were few and far between... Ironically, given the home crowd levels, the Aces do take a decent following away and I remember around 150 or more at Ipswich a couple of seasons ago for the first leg of the POSF.. And obviously 400 or so at Sheffield and around 300 at Leicester when they won their recent titles.. 150 Witches fans, either sat together or stood together, would have given the meeting the feeling of being an "event", (that a POSF should be seen as), rather than the mundane, run of the mill, evening it ended up being.. No idea why clubs don't subsidise Away Fans admission (huge reductions), given so very few go now.. It would raise the atmosphere levels massively... Some very easy and workable solutions based on lots of other sports. But they are as ever miles behind the curve. Football decided to do something with price capping for away fans Cricket counties let away members get in for free, to some games. Too much self interest in promotions, but what they should be looking to do is centralising & discounting tickets. It took them years to realise that streaming was a good idea. 5 minutes ago, mikebv said: As I mentioned before... Around 150 Aces fans attended the first leg of the POSF a couple of years ago on the Thursday at Foxhall... It seems there is a lack of belief in how important the competition actually is nowadays, such is the amount of apathy shown by so many not attending from both teams last night.. Given how the sport is ran, I cannot blame them, however, it must be worrying for promoters when even semi finals cannot get enough people interested from both sides.. Weather permitting, I am sure Ipswich will get a decent crowd, but I don't think 150 Aces fans will be there this time... Play offs are only really appealing when the result has a degree of uncertainty on it. As you say can't really blame fans if they don't go, changeable weather, a team you see multiple times & the result is going to predictable. Whole competition needs radical change. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrystalCastles Posted 13 hours ago Report Share Posted 13 hours ago 59 minutes ago, The White Knight said: How do they get away with increasing prices for a semi final anyway. No the wonder people are slowly drifting away from Speedway, fleecing the punters is certainly not encouraging the public to attend. These days, when money is tight, to say the least, it just makes the Promoters look like money grabbing sharks. They should be rewarding their loyal Supporters with discounts, not making them pay through the nose. I don't agree with the 'play offs' anyway, but this takes the biscuit. I haven't been since Swindon/Somerset shut. I have mixed feelings about the Ticket pricing, business wise dynamic pricing is becoming a 'norm' so it doesn't really surprise me that they try and cash in on Play Offs. Other comments really highlight why fans have many reasons for giving it a miss. That tends to lead to lots of businesses increasing prices to attempt to recover lost some of the revenue from smaller crowds. Long term i think it is damaging. Especially as Promotions never seem to do anything to make it more of an event or spectacle. At some point in the next years, Speedway will hit a ceiling point where it prices itself out of fans. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
secsy1 Posted 12 hours ago Author Report Share Posted 12 hours ago The unnecessary price increase highlight's how detached from a professional business acumen these people are. Speedway is done and dusted in this country. R.I.P. BRITISH SPEEDWAY. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted 12 hours ago Report Share Posted 12 hours ago 1 hour ago, CrystalCastles said: It took them years to realise that streaming was a good idea. I don't think the ever did, wasn't it down to Martin Hunter and Ben Duffil approaching them with the idea instead of the other way around? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Sidney Posted 11 hours ago Report Share Posted 11 hours ago 3 hours ago, The White Knight said: How do they get away with increasing prices for a semi final anyway. No the wonder people are slowly drifting away from Speedway, fleecing the punters is certainly not encouraging the public to attend. These days, when money is tight, to say the least, it just makes the Promoters look like money grabbing sharks. They should be rewarding their loyal Supporters with discounts, not making them pay through the nose. I don't agree with the 'play offs' anyway, but this takes the biscuit. It's common practice in other sports to charge different prices for different grade matches- speedway is probably slow on the uptake! And that's without the model of 'dynamic pricing' where ticket prices vary for the same sections based on demand. I'm not saying I agree with it, but I doubt that is the reason people are drifting away. Perceived value for money is a much bigger issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted 11 hours ago Report Share Posted 11 hours ago 24 minutes ago, Sir Sidney said: the model of 'dynamic pricing' where ticket prices vary for the same sections based on demand. What about when there's clearly no demand? Put the prices up 😂 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Sidney Posted 3 hours ago Report Share Posted 3 hours ago 8 hours ago, IainB said: What about when there's clearly no demand? Put the prices up 😂 Using dynamic pricing it woukd go down - so don't expect British Speedway to use that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SJA Posted 2 hours ago Report Share Posted 2 hours ago 17 hours ago, PhilTheAce said: Weirdly aswell, it’s always the padded most expensive seats that always sells out 😂 Which demonstrates that price is a red herring when people talk about what to do to attract more people to watch the sport live. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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