mikebv Posted 4 hours ago Report Share Posted 4 hours ago 7 minutes ago, IainB said: That's the thing PL clubs have no assets, unless you count the tractors... and I can't see anybody wanting Ippo's tractor, the flashing light doesn't even work 😉😂 Nor does the green starting light... At least., That's what Emil said... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted 4 hours ago Report Share Posted 4 hours ago 29 minutes ago, TTT said: It would just be a point blank refusal to put British Speedway first imo. They wouldn't have an excuse about losing money by running on Monday's and Thursday's as they'd have a written agreement that guarantees any financial losses to be covered in full. Their fans dont want Monday or Thursday Speedway... Simple as... Maybe Ipswich and fhe other Prem teams could ride Wednesdays? Just dont sign any Danes... The top tier is finished at the level it wants to run at... It simply does not work to deliver enough teams in its current guise... 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marky_Mark Posted 3 hours ago Report Share Posted 3 hours ago There’s an interesting article in today’s Bournemouth Echo where Danny Ford states that Poole have been asked to move up but have declined. Reiterated how important Wednesday nights are and said that the only time they ran a Tuesday this year was the only meeting they made a loss, and also said financially they can’t afford the higher rider costs in the premiership. The article also states that the premiership are actively trying to find new teams and venues to join them due to the loss of Oxford and Birmingham. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted 3 hours ago Report Share Posted 3 hours ago 2 minutes ago, Marky_Mark said: There’s an interesting article in today’s Bournemouth Echo where Danny Ford states that Poole have been asked to move up but have declined. Reiterated how important Wednesday nights are and said that the only time they ran a Tuesday this year was the only meeting they made a loss, and also said financially they can’t afford the higher rider costs in the premiership. The article also states that the premiership are actively trying to find new teams and venues to join them due to the loss of Oxford and Birmingham. No! No! No!.... Danny must stop being so selfish and "move up".. (If indeed that is an accurate description)... Father Christmas, The Tooth Fairy, and The Easter Bunny will cover his losses... 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTT Posted 3 hours ago Report Share Posted 3 hours ago 26 minutes ago, mikebv said: Their fans dont want Monday or Thursday Speedway... Simple as... Maybe Ipswich and fhe other Prem teams could ride Wednesdays? Just dont sign any Danes... The top tier is finished at the level it wants to run at... It simply does not work to deliver enough teams in its current guise... Exactly my point when I've said British Speedway doesn't revolve around Poole's Wednesday Nights. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted 3 hours ago Report Share Posted 3 hours ago 1 minute ago, TTT said: Exactly my point when I've said British Speedway doesn't revolve around Poole's Wednesday Nights. As it doesn't revolve around Mondays and Thursdays... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marky_Mark Posted 3 hours ago Report Share Posted 3 hours ago So which teams are left that haven’t already made signings and could therefore still move up? Glasgow most likely I would say? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Sidney Posted 3 hours ago Report Share Posted 3 hours ago 1 minute ago, Marky_Mark said: So which teams are left that haven’t already made signings and could therefore still move up? Glasgow most likely I would say? Maybe they haven't announced signings rather than haven't made signings 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lewy Posted 3 hours ago Report Share Posted 3 hours ago 7 minutes ago, Marky_Mark said: So which teams are left that haven’t already made signings and could therefore still move up? Glasgow most likely I would say? Workington Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawk127 Posted 3 hours ago Report Share Posted 3 hours ago 2 minutes ago, mikebv said: As it doesn't revolve around Mondays and Thursdays... it should revolve around whatever day best suits the club and its customer base. Many on here are advocating that clubs should do this or that for the good of the sport as a whole but in fairness it is not their money being put on the line. I certainly do not agree with many things those in charge do and those who are the custodians of the sport have brought it to where some clubs find themselves now, but until you have an independent body running the sport including central rider contracts and riders payments coming from the governing body (funded by contributions from each club) so as to get rider costs under control and get some stability to that element of the financial side the sport is going to continue to be unmanageable and will eventually price itself out of business. Speedway U K needs to get a grip and reinvent itself and stop staggering from one annual crisis to the next. One final point slightly off the subject but the speedway website still shows TNT as broadcast partners. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted 3 hours ago Report Share Posted 3 hours ago (edited) 5 minutes ago, Hawk127 said: it should revolve around whatever day best suits the club and its customer base. Many on here are advocating that clubs should do this or that for the good of the sport as a whole but in fairness it is not their money being put on the line. I certainly do not agree with many things those in charge do and those who are the custodians of the sport have brought it to where some clubs find themselves now, but until you have an independent body running the sport including central rider contracts and riders payments coming from the governing body (funded by contributions from each club) so as to get rider costs under control and get some stability to that element of the financial side the sport is going to continue to be unmanageable and will eventually price itself out of business. Speedway U K needs to get a grip and reinvent itself and stop staggering from one annual crisis to the next. One final point slightly off the subject but the speedway website still shows TNT as broadcast partners. 100% Correct.... The whole shebang needs a root and branch review... And then clear recommendations that get adhered to... PS (Will never happen)... Edited 3 hours ago by mikebv Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted 2 hours ago Report Share Posted 2 hours ago 35 minutes ago, TTT said: Exactly my point when I've said British Speedway doesn't revolve around Poole's Wednesday Nights. If they want us to move up it does. Maybe we could move up in 2027 as Danes riding in Poland will have Denmark as their other league. So no UK. Frees up Weds! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
therefused Posted 2 hours ago Report Share Posted 2 hours ago I think it says a lot really that even teams like Poole can’t compete in the premiership, makes you wonder how the teams currently in the top league do have the money to afford it, it cannot be sustainable anymore 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawk127 Posted 2 hours ago Report Share Posted 2 hours ago 22 minutes ago, mikebv said: 100% Correct.... The whole shebang needs a root and branch review... And then clear recommendations that get adhered to... PS (Will never happen)... It could if you stop the tail wagging the dog. Riders who want to double up can ride in the UK and elsewhere in Europe. If you had one league of five rider clubs with two home and two away meetings surely that would see riders pay broadly unchanged. That may also ensure that the youngsters come up through the ranks getting second half rides. Where do today’s supporters think riders came from in yesteryears. They came from the second halves, eventually rode at 6 and 7 in the second division, then the main team then progressed to the top division. Without that support at the lowest level, the pipeline of riders dries up and the sport is dead in the water. The talent is out there it just needs nurturing and that includes backing from each and every supporter. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted 2 hours ago Report Share Posted 2 hours ago 1 hour ago, Marky_Mark said: There’s an interesting article in today’s Bournemouth Echo where Danny Ford states that Poole have been asked to move up but have declined. Reiterated how important Wednesday nights are and said that the only time they ran a Tuesday this year was the only meeting they made a loss, and also said financially they can’t afford the higher rider costs in the premiership. The article also states that the premiership are actively trying to find new teams and venues to join them due to the loss of Oxford and Birmingham. That just leaves Glasgow to make up their mind. Will they or won’t they.? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted 2 hours ago Report Share Posted 2 hours ago (edited) 20 minutes ago, Hawk127 said: It could if you stop the tail wagging the dog. Riders who want to double up can ride in the UK and elsewhere in Europe. If you had one league of five rider clubs with two home and two away meetings surely that would see riders pay broadly unchanged. That may also ensure that the youngsters come up through the ranks getting second half rides. Where do today’s supporters think riders came from in yesteryears. They came from the second halves, eventually rode at 6 and 7 in the second division, then the main team then progressed to the top division. Without that support at the lowest level, the pipeline of riders dries up and the sport is dead in the water. The talent is out there it just needs nurturing and that includes backing from each and every supporter. I agree... Using riders, and paying them circa six figures, who can earn £400/500k in Poland, is nothing more than an ego trip for promoters in my opinion... And adds pretty much zero to the attendances at tracks, zero to wider media coverage, and zero to public awareness... The bottom line is ... Millions have been spent to regress .. When will the coffee be smelt? Edited 2 hours ago by mikebv 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted 2 hours ago Report Share Posted 2 hours ago 6 minutes ago, Fromafar said: That just leaves Glasgow to make up their mind. Will they or won’t they.? Not on Mondays or Thursdays! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YeOldPitGate Posted 2 hours ago Report Share Posted 2 hours ago 39 minutes ago, therefused said: I think it says a lot really that even teams like Poole can’t compete in the premiership, makes you wonder how the teams currently in the top league do have the money to afford it, it cannot be sustainable anymore Like him or loathe Matt Ford is a shrewd businessman, I think he saw this coming several years back hence his decision to drop down and lower his annual costs by 30-40% and it sounds like Poole's fan base numbers have held up well even allowing for the drop in rider standard on show. It would also appear from the article they are generally making a profit on most meetings which is unusual for most clubs these days. I think as I've mentioned before Ford now realises he made a mistake not unloading the club when he had Holder and Ward in their prime and Sky were involved I've no inside knowledge but some on here who may have, indicated he wanted to much for the pirates. I guess now he's happy to take a draw of profits from the club as most meetings appear to make money without him having to put any major investment in on his behalf and let things tick along at a sustainable level. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTT Posted 1 hour ago Report Share Posted 1 hour ago (edited) British Speedway, The only sport in the UK where.... Lower League Clubs try and dictate the future of the Big League Clubs. Lower League Clubs try and take Money out of Riders Pockets by putting them out of a job at PREM level. Lower League Clubs try and takeaway from the Fans by replacing Top Quality On Track Battles like Brady Kurtz v Jason Doyle or Dan Bewley v Max Fricke and replacing them with Paul Starke v Simon Lambert or Jack Smith v Alfie Bowtell. Edited 1 hour ago by TTT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted 1 hour ago Report Share Posted 1 hour ago 2 minutes ago, TTT said: British Speedway, The only sport in the UK where.... Lower League Clubs try and dictate the future of the Big League Clubs. Lower League Clubs try and take Money out of Riders Pockets by putting them out of a job at PREM level. Lower League Clubs try and takeaway from the Fans by replacing Top Quality On Track Battles like Brady Kurtz v Jason Doyle or Dan Bewley v Max Fricke and replacing them with Paul Starke v Simon Lambert or Jack Smith v Alfie Bowtell. Lack of forward thinking has been the catalyst for this shambles.Late in the day to try and solve it considering we’re being told they have been discussing the way forward for months behind the scenes.Helmet colour and gardening at starting gate were probably top of the list by the sounds of it.🤔 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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