Pitch Posted December 13, 2025 Report Share Posted December 13, 2025 (edited) 10 hours ago, PhilTheAce said: Going to stick my neck on the line The 5 teams don't include Ipswich right now. Once they are sorted infill be 6 team league which will be a winner after the doubts all winter The problem is Monday night meetings! Thursday are OK though! Edited December 13, 2025 by Pitch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted December 13, 2025 Report Share Posted December 13, 2025 10 hours ago, mikebv said: Wow... A game changer ... All problems solved.... Putting your facetiousness to one side for a moment nobody is saying any problems are solved but its factually incorrect for people to say its confirmed to be five teams. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1 valve Posted December 13, 2025 Report Share Posted December 13, 2025 1 hour ago, gjcone44 said: every time a club disappears from the premiership , thats my version of making it worse. you better explain why you think its not getting worse.? Teams closing is indeed a sad matter however you are mistaken in believing the Premiership is largely responsible for teams closing. Birmingham, Wolves, Peterborough, Swindon, Coventry. Lost to development. Sheffield & Ipswich for sale but more than likely to run in 2026. Oxford, decision made to reduce number of teams because arguably having three teams understandably proving too much for fans to support from a cost point of view. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1 valve Posted December 13, 2025 Report Share Posted December 13, 2025 6 hours ago, mikebv said: No.. With so few riders needed there will be a surplus so having a few "on stand by" should mean seven rider teams can be delivered without the need for RR and Guests.. The whole sport in the UK is ran solely so riders can ride as much as they can, therefore I am sure those without a DU position will be pleased to fill in where required... So you mean teams need to run a squad system and sign riders who are not doubling up? Would this mean that maybe those reserve riders may not get to ride for their team at all nor be able to ride for another team. Or if you are thinking available riders do not actually sign for a club but remain in a pool then surely you have the risk that a rider could ride for a team and then against them the very next week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1 valve Posted December 13, 2025 Report Share Posted December 13, 2025 11 hours ago, mikebv said: Even Six teams in a "Top League" of a "National Sport" will look exactly like it looks... ie. A waste of time, and a waste of yet another year that could have seen some sense, and forward planning brought to the sport.. Running a top league and planning the future are not mutually exclusive for 2026. Let’s have both. Although the BSPL do appear to find the latter to be the more difficult concept to get to grips with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neila Posted December 13, 2025 Report Share Posted December 13, 2025 Maybe the 6th team is gonna be made up of guests, then tour various tracks and fields all over the country like a circus to make up the league 😄 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE DEAN MACHINE Posted December 13, 2025 Report Share Posted December 13, 2025 2 minutes ago, Neila said: Maybe the 6th team is gonna be made up of guests, then tour various tracks and fields all over the country like a circus to make up the league 😄 What a ridiculous idea, I bet they have considered it 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aries Posted December 13, 2025 Report Share Posted December 13, 2025 1 minute ago, THE DEAN MACHINE said: What a ridiculous idea, I bet they have considered it “Premiership allstars” I like it, and I think I’d get behind them and back them for the title 😁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted December 13, 2025 Report Share Posted December 13, 2025 59 minutes ago, Neila said: Maybe the 6th team is gonna be made up of guests, then tour various tracks and fields all over the country like a circus to make up the league 😄 55 minutes ago, THE DEAN MACHINE said: What a ridiculous idea, I bet they have considered it Or a virtual team, matches to be played on the Speedway Challenge app and streamed live PPV on a Saturday night 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted December 13, 2025 Report Share Posted December 13, 2025 1 hour ago, 1 valve said: So you mean teams need to run a squad system and sign riders who are not doubling up? Would this mean that maybe those reserve riders may not get to ride for their team at all nor be able to ride for another team. Or if you are thinking available riders do not actually sign for a club but remain in a pool then surely you have the risk that a rider could ride for a team and then against them the very next week. Wouldn't be hard to sort... When you ride for a team then you cannot ride for anyone else in that league.. But ride for the team who used you as many times as they see fit.. A squad system would by stymied by averages as the rider needing replacing may have a lower average than his possible squad replacement.. Cherry picking from Div 2 means the rider you pick to ride for you will have to have a lower average.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArthurRudge Posted December 13, 2025 Report Share Posted December 13, 2025 A farce is what it will bring 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted December 13, 2025 Report Share Posted December 13, 2025 1 hour ago, Bagpuss said: Putting your facetiousness to one side for a moment nobody is saying any problems are solved but its factually incorrect for people to say its confirmed to be five teams. It actually doesn't say anything at all really does it? And is a perfect microcosm of the way the sport is ran.. No names of teams who make up the five suggests even that isn't signed off yet, as you would simply name them wouldn't you..? Just over three months to the start of the season and the best we have is a very vague press release telling us very little concrete information... "Something might happen, but it may not, and it isn't perfect"... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Posted December 13, 2025 Report Share Posted December 13, 2025 (edited) Perpaps the BSPA should consult with counterparts in Denmark and Sweden about the possibility of a future European League (Leave Poland out of it). Instead of a PL, the top 4/5 British Teams could compete in a European Competition... Leave the CL and NDL as is... The BSPA should at least consider the idea at the AGM... Might be many reasons why it can't happen??? Edited December 13, 2025 by Albert 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aries Posted December 13, 2025 Report Share Posted December 13, 2025 14 minutes ago, mikebv said: It actually doesn't say anything at all really does it? And is a perfect microcosm of the way the sport is ran.. No names of teams who make up the five suggests even that isn't signed off yet, as you would simply name them wouldn't you..? Just over three months to the start of the season and the best we have is a very vague press release telling us very little concrete information... "Something might happen, but it may not, and it isn't perfect"... Can’t argue with any of that really. All very vague isn’t it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamish McRaker Posted December 13, 2025 Report Share Posted December 13, 2025 4 hours ago, Aries said: Personally think it MUST include Ipswich Phil. If it doesn’t, we’d have heard more concrete news on a new track if they have a currently guaranteed 5 starters. Waiting game goes on unfortunately. Edit: what I will say though, is the current five shouldn’t be completing their teams just yet. They should all have a collective responsibility to help a possible sixth team come to the party and be competitive. If that means a certain team not including a rider they wanted, so be it. It’s no good bringing a sixth team in late in the day, and everyone else has hoovered up the worthwhile riders that still want to ride here leaving that team trying to cobble together a team of misfits. They’ll inevitably finish bottom, the crowds won’t come and it obviously won’t end up being successful. Someone will always finish bottom yes, but you don’t want to see anyone bottom and totally uncompetitive and getting a hiding every week. They need to try and make all six (if it is to be six) as equally matched as possible. Agree with you 100% there, but I suspect the 5, some more than others, already have working agreements in place with riders. So its hard to see how any "team 6" will be anything but sacrificial lambs. No disrespect to them, but we're looking at the likes of Douglas, Pickering and Brennan being the top dogs and they'll have got their first and backup clubs already sorted out, won't they? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted December 13, 2025 Report Share Posted December 13, 2025 22 minutes ago, Albert said: Perpaps the BSPA should consult with Denmark and Sweden about the possibility of a future European League (Leave Poland out of it). Instead of a PL, the top 4/5 British Teams could compete in a European Competition... Leave the CL and NDL as is... The BSPA should at least consider the idea at the AGM... Might be many reasons why it can't happen??? I think that is something very worthwhile considering ... Logistically there would need to be some working around riders currently riding for two teams, however, it cannot be beyond the capability of those in charge to sort it surely? Five teams from the UK would make a league of 21 teams.. A minimum 20 home matches.. It would give a boost to Sweden and Denmark too I am sure, given they too have pretty much the same old/same old, every season.. Fixed nights, Monday to Thursday, are made for such a competition... Maybe run with the Danish five rider team format? And add in a number of fixed positions for UK, Swedish and Danish riders, as all three seem to need some young talent coming through.. Might stimulate some TV interest too? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YeOldPitGate Posted December 13, 2025 Report Share Posted December 13, 2025 1 hour ago, Aries said: “Premiership allstars” I like it, and I think I’d get behind them and back them for the title 😁 Harris (Captain), Nicholls & Lawson as the heat leaders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YeOldPitGate Posted December 13, 2025 Report Share Posted December 13, 2025 12 minutes ago, mikebv said: I think that is something very worthwhile considering ... Logistically there would need to be some working around riders currently riding for two teams, however, it cannot be beyond the capability of those in charge to sort it surely? Five teams from the UK would make a league of 21 teams.. A minimum 20 home matches.. It would give a boost to Sweden and Denmark too I am sure, given they too have pretty much the same old/same old, every season.. Fixed nights, Monday to Thursday, are made for such a competition... Maybe run with the Danish five rider team format? And add in a number of fixed positions for UK, Swedish and Danish riders, as all three seem to need some young talent coming through.. Might stimulate some TV interest too? Agreed but they would need a decent league sponsor to cover the flights in and out, but it is something that could potentially work well for all three countries and ideally if 6 & 7 protected to home grown youngsters could help develop the next generation to negate current polish dominance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lefty Posted December 13, 2025 Report Share Posted December 13, 2025 Is it time to rename the Premiership as The NVL, - aka - 'The 'No Variety League' ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted December 13, 2025 Report Share Posted December 13, 2025 (edited) 8 minutes ago, YeOldPitGate said: Agreed but they would need a decent league sponsor to cover the flights in and out, but it is something that could potentially work well for all three countries and ideally if 6 & 7 protected to home grown youngsters could help develop the next generation to negate current polish dominance. The flights happen now though don't they? Which is why I think it is worth at least pursuing... The riders will fly out as they do now, but do it in the same league rather than three separate ones.. Maybe one of the large Scandi companies who have a large amount of businesses over here could get involved in sponsorship?.. Three "small" leagues combining would also lessen the Polish control of the sport... Each of the three leagues seem to just amble along from one year to the next, making constant changes to suit a model that never seems to work, with all getting to the end of the season being some kind of achievement, therefore, why not all collectively increase their profiles through an "International League"?.. Edited December 13, 2025 by mikebv 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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