Roger Jacobs Posted November 25, 2025 Report Share Posted November 25, 2025 6 hours ago, SJA said: Its local competition that impacts clubs attendance more than people think. Take Leicester as an example. They have a successful football club, the most successful English rugby team, the most successful Basketball team, Netball champions and county cricket to compete against for attendance, sponsorship money, and local media content. Ipswich, Kings Lynn and Poole do not have these issues. Leicester are currently placed fifth or sixth in the local market. The Leicester urban area has about three times as many people as the wider Ipswich area (approx 550,000 compared to approx 180,000). Leicester is in the East Midlands, with access to much more industry and business sponsorship opportunities. Interestingly, LCFC and ITFC attract very similar home attendances. To be honest, there’s no real comparison to make - very different parts of the country, with very different circumstances. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted November 25, 2025 Report Share Posted November 25, 2025 1 hour ago, Fromafar said: There’s a few Pickering standard that will have to make decision.One bad match in Poland and you might be twiddling their thumbs for a few weeks. It is one small potential piece of light at the end of the tunnel in terms of rider availability I would suspect however that Josh was banking on 2 UK incomes and his demands if there is only 1 (and that 1 offering only half as much as the expected 2nd) may be different in future - particularly if rider availability is scarce..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted November 25, 2025 Report Share Posted November 25, 2025 16 minutes ago, dontforgetthefueltapsbruv said: It is one small potential piece of light at the end of the tunnel in terms of rider availability I would suspect however that Josh was banking on 2 UK incomes and his demands if there is only 1 (and that 1 offering only half as much as the expected 2nd) may be different in future - particularly if rider availability is scarce..... That’s in the future for riders .This mess needs sorting out first. How they had been talking for months previously and it comes to this is unbelievable in what is meant to be a professional sport. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bellevueace Posted November 25, 2025 Report Share Posted November 25, 2025 (edited) 6 hours ago, SUPERACE said: If there is only 1 league it is the top level. As i said in the post quoted "and as been said before if it were a championship and ndl, championship then becomes the top tier." Edited November 25, 2025 by bellevueace 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted November 25, 2025 Report Share Posted November 25, 2025 1 hour ago, Fromafar said: That’s in the future for riders .This mess needs sorting out first. How they had been talking for months previously and it comes to this is unbelievable in what is meant to be a professional sport. They must have thought the TV deal was going to be extended and all their eggs were in that particular basket? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted November 25, 2025 Report Share Posted November 25, 2025 5 hours ago, Fromafar said: That’s in the future for riders .This mess needs sorting out first. How they had been talking for months previously and it comes to this is unbelievable in what is meant to be a professional sport. The Oxford decision was I believe unexpected with them indicating in those talks in all the months previously that they intended to carry on on the Premiership right up until they made the announcement that they wouldn't.... The Championship regs and limits were probably preliminary agreed on that basis hence the full steam ahead with team building despite no AGM If so that leaves much less time to look at the alternatives Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted November 25, 2025 Report Share Posted November 25, 2025 24 minutes ago, dontforgetthefueltapsbruv said: The Oxford decision was I believe unexpected with them indicating in those talks in all the months previously that they intended to carry on on the Premiership right up until they made the announcement that they wouldn't.... The Championship regs and limits were probably preliminary agreed on that basis hence the full steam ahead with team building despite no AGM If so that leaves much less time to look at the alternatives There must be far too much to unpick now with regards to "one league", given pretty much all the Championsbip teams will be sorted and a five team top tier surely cannot be an option, given it will be a disaster.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eric i Posted November 26, 2025 Report Share Posted November 26, 2025 If the sale of Ipswich and sheffield are not completed by the AGM in January I can see a real possibility of one big league. It would mean 5 man teams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnieg Posted November 26, 2025 Report Share Posted November 26, 2025 9 hours ago, dontforgetthefueltapsbruv said: The Oxford decision was I believe unexpected with them indicating in those talks in all the months previously that they intended to carry on on the Premiership right up until they made the announcement that they wouldn't.... The Championship regs and limits were probably preliminary agreed on that basis hence the full steam ahead with team building despite no AGM If so that leaves much less time to look at the alternatives This seems unlikely. To anyone in the Oxford orbit it was clear from around May that enthusiasm for running in the Premiership had waned and by August it had become the expectation that the Spires would expire, and that the goal was simply to complete the season and re-focus on the Cheetahs in the Championship. I can't believe that other promoters were not aware of this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted November 26, 2025 Report Share Posted November 26, 2025 1 minute ago, arnieg said: This seems unlikely. To anyone in the Oxford orbit it was clear from around May that enthusiasm for running in the Premiership had waned and by August it had become the expectation that the Spires would expire, and that the goal was simply to complete the season and re-focus on the Cheetahs in the Championship. I can't believe that other promoters were not aware of this. I agree in the Oxford orbit that it was not the message projected but in the official national meetings it was allegedly presented very differently 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTT Posted November 26, 2025 Report Share Posted November 26, 2025 To any Belle Vue fan who's advocated for their own Clubs downfall by calling for One Big Medicore League. Take a look at the Speedway Star and see what your top rider Brady Kurtz has said. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted November 26, 2025 Report Share Posted November 26, 2025 36 minutes ago, TTT said: To any Belle Vue fan who's advocated for their own Clubs downfall by calling for One Big Medicore League. Take a look at the Speedway Star and see what your top rider Brady Kurtz has said. Brady won’t give stuff whether he is riding in UK or not.IMO.It was just extra pocket money compared to his other deals. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kieran22222 Posted November 26, 2025 Report Share Posted November 26, 2025 1 hour ago, TTT said: To any Belle Vue fan who's advocated for their own Clubs downfall by calling for One Big Medicore League. Take a look at the Speedway Star and see what your top rider Brady Kurtz has said. What has he said? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilTheAce Posted November 26, 2025 Report Share Posted November 26, 2025 1 hour ago, TTT said: To any Belle Vue fan who's advocated for their own Clubs downfall by calling for One Big Medicore League. Take a look at the Speedway Star and see what your top rider Brady Kurtz has said. do you think we are stupid??????? we all know if its one league it will be without the GP boys 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
therefused Posted November 26, 2025 Report Share Posted November 26, 2025 2 hours ago, TTT said: To any Belle Vue fan who's advocated for their own Clubs downfall by calling for One Big Medicore League. Back again with your anti British Speedway rhetoric. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glen Posted November 26, 2025 Report Share Posted November 26, 2025 It may be too early yet but haven’t heard of a rider saying ‘ I can’t afford to carry on unless there are 2 leagues’ . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted November 26, 2025 Report Share Posted November 26, 2025 3 hours ago, TTT said: To any Belle Vue fan who's advocated for their own Clubs downfall by calling for One Big Medicore League. Take a look at the Speedway Star and see what your top rider Brady Kurtz has said. Does that mean that paramedic provision at all tracks will be sponsored?😁😉 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTT Posted November 26, 2025 Report Share Posted November 26, 2025 (edited) 4 hours ago, Fromafar said: Brady won’t give stuff whether he is riding in UK or not.IMO.It was just extra pocket money compared to his other deals. Brady is prioritising the UK over Denmark and Sweden. Edited November 26, 2025 by TTT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTT Posted November 26, 2025 Report Share Posted November 26, 2025 (edited) 4 hours ago, Kieran22222 said: What has he said? Wants to be back at Belle Vue in 2026 and he's prioritising UK over Denmark and Sweden but will have to settle for the latter if the Promoters don't pull their finger out and do the right thing. Edited November 26, 2025 by TTT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTT Posted November 26, 2025 Report Share Posted November 26, 2025 (edited) 3 hours ago, PhilTheAce said: do you think we are stupid??????? we all know if its one league it will be without the GP boys You've missed the entire point Phil because that's exactly what Brady is saying. Brady Kurtz @ No.1 is a lock if a PREM takes place in 2026. I'm calling certain Belle Vue fans out for wanting to see Belle Vue being dragged down into mediocrity via One Big League. Edited November 26, 2025 by TTT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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