Poole v Glasgow, 15/10/25, Glasgow v Poole, 17/10/25 Championship Final

[SteveArena]

Watch out for the Jocks LBW.  Your flat white might go for a burton if they are full of Scotch and Iron Bru!

Come on the Jockys you can do it.  Give the Poole mob loads of grief in the pits like the Poole mafia did when you lot were down at Wimborne Road a while ago.

 

[LisaColette]

36 minutes ago, scunny1 said:

So one club is in middle of a huge city with a massive population and the other is a tourist town with 3 million visitors a year. Compare those to decimated towns like Redcar, Scunthorpe, Workington  and the clubs do not have the wealthy backers, or the  cash positive population.

If I won the lottery, I would put money into my club and attract the best riders, as it is I'm envious of the top two teams success, but win or lose, I will still be standing on the freezing terraces watching my team.

At least you guys own the stadium. I bet if any Poole fan won the lottery that's what they would be doing. 

[foreverblue]

45 minutes ago, Bagpuss said:

Maybe its an anti crap speedway rhetoric. In my expereince that happens on here whatever the track if a meeting has been broadcast and its not good.

Which is completely different to charging more than you usually would for the other dozen or so meetungd if the season. Bit of a kick in the teeth IMO.

Well by the crowd level, I assume people did not arrive at the stadium then go home appalled by the 2 pound increase. This is not the first time it has been increased for a grand final and Poole are not the only club that have done it. 

If you think the anti Poole rhetoric is just about the track then you are entitled to that opinion but we all know if the racing had been good and Poole had lost or only won by a small margin, the laughter and joy on here would be 50 pages by now, saying how we stupidly messed up the track to suit the opposition.

I cannot believe you honestly think that any other televised meeting that was not good racing would get anywhere near the amount of flak Poole get.

Edited yesterday at 09:45 AM by foreverblue

[Youhave2minutes]

1 hour ago, SteveLyric2 said:

What? Like Glasgow's usual prices for a seat!?😉

And they own their own stadium so get ALL the income!!

Double rip off

[Youhave2minutes]

18 minutes ago, SteveArena said:

Watch out for the Jocks LBW.  Your flat white might go for a burton if they are full of Scotch and Iron Bru!

Come on the Jockys you can do it.  Give the Poole mob loads of grief in the pits like the Poole mafia did when you lot were down at Wimborne Road a while ago.

 

No t*t for tat please.

Edited yesterday at 09:48 AM by Youhave2minutes

[PersonalResponsibility]

1 hour ago, Wee Eck said:

The anti-Poole rhetoric on here is as predictable as it is disappointing. The Poole management put together a team, and a track, designed to provide their loyal supporters with a winning team, but not just at home but away. 
I first went to Poole maybe 25 years ago and thought the racing was largely processional then but realised that, as long as it was Poole riders leading the procession, then the home support was happy.

Matt Ford has a winning mentality and that shows through with both team and business success. His only year of losses was when he was forced to run on Thursdays and he found the resolution to that. He has proved he is not afraid to run in the top league. And often win it, so the decision to drop a league was sensible not cowardly. 
 

For too long, British speedway has supported the weakest teams and where has that got us? Dwindling crowds, fewer tracks and increased prices. The sport needs more teams like Poole who will improve the product not keep reducing what’s on offer. 
 

Which brings us to Glasgow, the only other team in the league who sees the sport from a business perspective. Their route has been to improve the customer experience by investing in the stadium, the team, the track. They must have the lowest average age of supporter though there’s still plenty of room for the long term fan. With the number of children attending, I’d guess the average age is closer to 40 rather than 60+ at many tracks. And that approach is paying off with the team consistently towards the top in performance. And, in my view, if you had to rank what is important to a regular supporter, then performance beats racing. I don’t support those that say they only want to see good racing - not if it means your team is regularly beaten you don’t! You only need to look at the crowd levels this year at tracks perceived as providing good racing but who’ve regularly lost at home. 
 

From a neutral’s perspective, these are the two teams that deserve to be admired, maybe even envied rather than being attacked. Both provide a product their supporters want and both see dividends through the turnstiles. If only there were more like them
 

 

I think most people just don't like 'winners', it feels like a very British mentality. I'm old enough to remember when Glasgow had the likes of Lee Dicken carting around a dusty, shack of a stadium and nobody gave a toss about them on here. Everyone has always disliked Poole so you'll need to find someone older than me for a view on that! 

What the Facennas have done to Glasgow - as a club, track, team - is incredible really, and it shows what's possible when someone with a decent business mind and a lot of money can achieve (even if Glasgow fans can get precious about the money bit). They haven't just tarted up a downtrodden stadium, they've practically reinvented the sport in Glasgow to some degree - the increase in fans is testament to that.

In terms of Poole, I'd love to know their secret. I don't imagine they're paying buttons, but equally, they're on for a treble with riders like Tobias Thomsen and Lewis Kerr, hardly hidden gems. I think it's a combination of their winning mentality and a bit of a self-fulfilling prophecy (win more > attract good youngsters/better riders > etc. > etc).

 

[Youhave2minutes]

Glasgow need to be very worried. As Poole have already beaten them on their own soil this year 47 - 43.

[Weeyin]

If Poole win overall, then Glasgow fans will give credit where credit is due and congratulate them as deserved winners. I was at Poole on Wednesday and had great chats with the NID crew, I hope tonight's meeting is a cracker, befitting of a grand final and no matter the outcome, a good time has been had by all. Regroup and go again next season.

[lbw]

I've arrived in Glasgow 🐯

WE WILL PROVE THE DOUBTERS WRONG! U know who you are! 🕵️

C'mon the Boyzzz ☠️ 💪 

[Supersub]

11 minutes ago, lbw said:

I've arrived in Glasgow 🐯

WE WILL PROVE THE DOUBTERS WRONG! U know who you are! 🕵️

C'mon the Boyzzz ☠️ 💪 

Who are the doubters> it will be tough but we can do it! This is speedway

Edited yesterday at 11:01 AM by Supersub

[lbw]

10 minutes ago, Supersub said:

Who are the doubters> it will be tough but we can do it! This is speedway

Yes it will be tough but they know who they are!

Edited yesterday at 11:09 AM by lbw

[Steve Shovlar]

1 hour ago, foreverblue said:

Well by the crowd level, I assume people did not arrive at the stadium then go home appalled by the 2 pound increase. This is not the first time it has been increased for a grand final and Poole are not the only club that have done it. 

If you think the anti Poole rhetoric is just about the track then you are entitled to that opinion but we all know if the racing had been good and Poole had lost or only won by a small margin, the laughter and joy on here would be 50 pages by now, saying how we stupidly messed up the track to suit the opposition.

I cannot believe you honestly think that any other televised meeting that was not good racing would get anywhere near the amount of flak Poole get.

Interesting to note that BSN have put up their prices by £2 tonight. Usually £12.99, tonight £14.99. 

[Steve Shovlar]

4 minutes ago, lbw said:

They know who they are!

If that’s aimed at me Neil you couldn’t be more wrong. I am 110% behind the Pirates. I just don’t think we are going to get a 5-1 every heat. 
 

Rob’s coming around with a few beers at 7 and we will be cheering on the Pirates this evening. If we come up short, I will happily congratulate Glasgow on their title.

[Gavan]

Poole fans are a weird and strange collective that can’t debate a topic …. Always going on the defensive and unable to have a discussion 

Nobody is saying that you shouldn’t prepare the track for your own side 

And at the end of the day it is about winning but surely just one Poole fan could admit the truth which is ‘ I’m glad we won but the racing was awful’ …. Instead you get the morons like Shovlar telling us it was an exciting meeting… 

Nobody dislikes Poole for winning just the numpty supporters

Oh and the final at Ipswich this year had controversy … Emil not starting … Brennan and Douglas … King and Masters … Doyle and Howarth … 9 passes in 15 races including an exceptional effort from Fricke in heat 13

I know us at Ipswich don’t have the best track but I’ve watched Poole 4 times this season and each time it’s abysmal 

Poole have signed a team of gaters with the exception of Thomsen so they will make the track slick and no chance of passing 

 

[Fromafar]

2 hours ago, Wee Eck said:

The anti-Poole rhetoric on here is as predictable as it is disappointing. The Poole management put together a team, and a track, designed to provide their loyal supporters with a winning team, but not just at home but away. 
I first went to Poole maybe 25 years ago and thought the racing was largely processional then but realised that, as long as it was Poole riders leading the procession, then the home support was happy.

Matt Ford has a winning mentality and that shows through with both team and business success. His only year of losses was when he was forced to run on Thursdays and he found the resolution to that. He has proved he is not afraid to run in the top league. And often win it, so the decision to drop a league was sensible not cowardly. 
 

For too long, British speedway has supported the weakest teams and where has that got us? Dwindling crowds, fewer tracks and increased prices. The sport needs more teams like Poole who will improve the product not keep reducing what’s on offer. 
 

Which brings us to Glasgow, the only other team in the league who sees the sport from a business perspective. Their route has been to improve the customer experience by investing in the stadium, the team, the track. They must have the lowest average age of supporter though there’s still plenty of room for the long term fan. With the number of children attending, I’d guess the average age is closer to 40 rather than 60+ at many tracks. And that approach is paying off with the team consistently towards the top in performance. And, in my view, if you had to rank what is important to a regular supporter, then performance beats racing. I don’t support those that say they only want to see good racing - not if it means your team is regularly beaten you don’t! You only need to look at the crowd levels this year at tracks perceived as providing good racing but who’ve regularly lost at home. 
 

From a neutral’s perspective, these are the two teams that deserve to be admired, maybe even envied rather than being attacked. Both provide a product their supporters want and both see dividends through the turnstiles. If only there were more like them
 

 

Well said 

[Youhave2minutes]

Poole to win on aggregate

[SteveLyric2]

23 minutes ago, Gavan said:

Poole fans are a weird and strange collective that can’t debate a topic …. Always going on the defensive and unable to have a discussion 

Nobody is saying that you shouldn’t prepare the track for your own side 

And at the end of the day it is about winning but surely just one Poole fan could admit the truth which is ‘ I’m glad we won but the racing was awful’ …. Instead you get the morons like Shovlar telling us it was an exciting meeting… 

Nobody dislikes Poole for winning just the numpty supporters

Oh and the final at Ipswich this year had controversy … Emil not starting … Brennan and Douglas … King and Masters … Doyle and Howarth … 9 passes in 15 races including an exceptional effort from Fricke in heat 13

I know us at Ipswich don’t have the best track but I’ve watched Poole 4 times this season and each time it’s abysmal 

Poole have signed a team of gaters with the exception of Thomsen so they will make the track slick and no chance of passing 

 

You cannot possibly believe that Tobias, Anders and Paul are 'gaters'?!

As I've said before, there were some terrific exciting races on Wednesday - as there is every week at Poole - even though not much passing this week on a very smooth track. Close racing can be just as exciting as one with passing, more so if the home team get a heat advantage. Hence very decent attendances every week.

As for any further comments, I'll pass........!

[SilentLurker]

31 minutes ago, Gavan said:

Poole fans are a weird and strange collective that can’t debate a topic …. Always going on the defensive and unable to have a discussion 

Nobody is saying that you shouldn’t prepare the track for your own side 

And at the end of the day it is about winning but surely just one Poole fan could admit the truth which is ‘ I’m glad we won but the racing was awful’ …. Instead you get the morons like Shovlar telling us it was an exciting meeting… 

Nobody dislikes Poole for winning just the numpty supporters

Oh and the final at Ipswich this year had controversy … Emil not starting … Brennan and Douglas … King and Masters … Doyle and Howarth … 9 passes in 15 races including an exceptional effort from Fricke in heat 13

I know us at Ipswich don’t have the best track but I’ve watched Poole 4 times this season and each time it’s abysmal 

Poole have signed a team of gaters with the exception of Thomsen so they will make the track slick and no chance of passing 

 

This is the most accurate post ever written on this forum. 

[SilentLurker]

7 minutes ago, SteveLyric2 said:

 

As I've said before, there were some terrific exciting races on Wednesday.

I wish I had your outlook on life as you must be so easy to please. You probably found the parade extremely exciting as well? 
 

@TheWellBehavedWorrall Could type up scripture off the back of this post. Complete and utter delusion but whatever makes you happy I suppose. 

Edited yesterday at 11:52 AM by SilentLurker

[gmarsbar2]

20 hours ago, mikebv said:

The root cause was three competitions still to be completed meant pressure to get it run, so ALL promoters were involved in that situation...

Not a great idea by October to still have three left to sort, and running on an FIM date which was in fhe calendar for over 12 months just compounded the self inflicted issue..

It was also almost disrespectful to fans, (and sponsors), to run such a "prestigious" meeting given many would have paid all season to hopefully see their team in the play offs, and then end up with a "select side" to follow...

An independent arbiter/body wouldn't have sanctioned this meeting given the situation with GP2, (but would no doubt also have ensured two of the competitions had been wrapped up by then)... 

It would have been interesting to see the Tigers fans reactions if they hadn't won the semi overall...

I agree it's a joke that the early season BSN series is going to be the final Championship meeting of the season.

There's reserved dates in the fixture list so all it requires is it's put in the regs that you have to complete the round before the next round is schedules or forfeit the match. Then the BSN series and KO Cup could be done before September.

As for playoff semifinal I'm think most Glasgow fans would have be more upset about losing to Edinburgh rather than losing because of guests.