SteveLyric2 Posted 23 hours ago Report Share Posted 23 hours ago 3 hours ago, TigerIain said: Drip feeding works in place where each announcement gets a back page story in the local press. It doesn't work in cities where the news is dominated by football. Drip feeding announcements of reserves and second strings would get at most a single sentence in the news in Glasgow. Even Bomber would be no more than a paragraph. Different teams do it differently based on local knowledge on what works for them publicity wise I wonder what Redcar's reasons are? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul84 Posted 23 hours ago Report Share Posted 23 hours ago (edited) McDiarmid 5.18 Grahn 5.3 Antti 6.87 Harrison 4.97 Edited 23 hours ago by paul84 Spelling Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2ndbend123 Posted 23 hours ago Author Report Share Posted 23 hours ago 31 minutes ago, paul84 said: McDiarmid 5.18 Grahn 5.3 Antti 6.87 Harrison 4.97 If the promotion want to progress next season we must build a team without Voulas. He is away performances are terrible after 2 years on these tracks. I would let him go Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bomber75 Posted 22 hours ago Report Share Posted 22 hours ago just been announced Riss is going to Oxford Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bomber75 Posted 22 hours ago Report Share Posted 22 hours ago 3 minutes ago, 2ndbend123 said: If the promotion want to progress next season we must build a team without Voulas. He is away performances are terrible after 2 years on these tracks. I would let him go I tend to agree we need heat leaders who can at least hold there own on most tracks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neila Posted 21 hours ago Report Share Posted 21 hours ago 2 hours ago, 2ndbend123 said: Not for me I don’t see that he has improved. Hasn’t improved his away form from being with Berwick. Etheridge has a lower average which was achieved in the main body of the team, hooky average was from reserve, so guess this is why hooky was not invited back, not a fan of etheridge if he is announced, but not my choice, will be still buying a season ticket. UTC🔵⚪ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JC81 Posted 16 hours ago Report Share Posted 16 hours ago 6 hours ago, 2ndbend123 said: If the promotion want to progress next season we must build a team without Voulas. He is away performances are terrible after 2 years on these tracks. I would let him go i agree , workington and similar is hiss style but away he let us down Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JC81 Posted 16 hours ago Report Share Posted 16 hours ago 4 hours ago, Neila said: Etheridge has a lower average which was achieved in the main body of the team, hooky average was from reserve, so guess this is why hooky was not invited back, not a fan of etheridge if he is announced, but not my choice, will be still buying a season ticket. UTC🔵⚪ precisly , like said before he has an inflated reserve avrg which historicaly and at least 70 percent of time never improves in the following . I liked the lad an dont get me wrong if he was back id of backed him all the way but but i agree with management decision in this . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted 12 hours ago Report Share Posted 12 hours ago I'm not sure why some posters appear to think that Hook would've been such a risk in the top 5. He's improved every year as a reserve, 2022: 2.78 (Edinburgh) 2023: 3.71 (Edinburgh), 3.74 (Berwick) 2024: 4.19 (Plymouth) 2025: 5.61 (Workington) He obviously improved an awful lot in 2025 putting almost 1.5 points on his average, yes that was at reserve, but so was his previous average. If he was a 4 point rider in a top 5, but dropped to reserve & scored 5.5, then I'd understand the concern more. If Hook carries on his seasonal improvement, I'd suggest there's no reason he can't match his 2025 figure when moving into the top 5. My other point is, if every rider was dropped once they moved up from reserve, where would the future heat leaders come from lol! Every single British heat leader must have started at reserve (plus some Aussies), I guess most improving riders move up during the season, rather than between seasons, that didn't happen for Hook cause Workington had a very solid team. Certainly seems a big difference compared to say Luke Harrison, I don't remember any Scunthorpe fans being reluctant to sign him up as a second string even through his away average was far below his home? 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supersteady84 Posted 5 hours ago Report Share Posted 5 hours ago Jeppesen Harrison Tate Jye Batch S Lambert Vinnie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marksman Posted 4 hours ago Report Share Posted 4 hours ago 7 hours ago, szkocjasid said: I'm not sure why some posters appear to think that Hook would've been such a risk in the top 5. He's improved every year as a reserve, 2022: 2.78 (Edinburgh) 2023: 3.71 (Edinburgh), 3.74 (Berwick) 2024: 4.19 (Plymouth) 2025: 5.61 (Workington) He obviously improved an awful lot in 2025 putting almost 1.5 points on his average, yes that was at reserve, but so was his previous average. If he was a 4 point rider in a top 5, but dropped to reserve & scored 5.5, then I'd understand the concern more. If Hook carries on his seasonal improvement, I'd suggest there's no reason he can't match his 2025 figure when moving into the top 5. My other point is, if every rider was dropped once they moved up from reserve, where would the future heat leaders come from lol! Every single British heat leader must have started at reserve (plus some Aussies), I guess most improving riders move up during the season, rather than between seasons, that didn't happen for Hook cause Workington had a very solid team. Certainly seems a big difference compared to say Luke Harrison, I don't remember any Scunthorpe fans being reluctant to sign him up as a second string even through his away average was far below his home? Probably on gut instinct because we watch him every week you can just tell from years of watching speedway his average of 5.57 is rather overinflated. Found these stats for his guest bookings from 2025 riding in the top order, although a small sample, they back up why he'd struggle. Averaged 2.66 when guesting in the top order, compared to when he rode at these same tracks at reserve for Workington he had multiple double figure scores. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woke23 Posted 4 hours ago Report Share Posted 4 hours ago 30 minutes ago, Supersteady84 said: Jeppesen Harrison Tate Jye Batch S Lambert Vinnie No thankyou. I want nothing to do with Lambert 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scaramanga Posted 3 hours ago Report Share Posted 3 hours ago Simon lambert had a bad year lat year But id never be surprised to see him hit double figures at any track and speedway runs in his blood great team guy Yes he's getting towards end of his riding days 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PersonalResponsibility Posted 3 hours ago Report Share Posted 3 hours ago 8 hours ago, szkocjasid said: I'm not sure why some posters appear to think that Hook would've been such a risk in the top 5. He's improved every year as a reserve, 2022: 2.78 (Edinburgh) 2023: 3.71 (Edinburgh), 3.74 (Berwick) 2024: 4.19 (Plymouth) 2025: 5.61 (Workington) He obviously improved an awful lot in 2025 putting almost 1.5 points on his average, yes that was at reserve, but so was his previous average. If he was a 4 point rider in a top 5, but dropped to reserve & scored 5.5, then I'd understand the concern more. If Hook carries on his seasonal improvement, I'd suggest there's no reason he can't match his 2025 figure when moving into the top 5. My other point is, if every rider was dropped once they moved up from reserve, where would the future heat leaders come from lol! Every single British heat leader must have started at reserve (plus some Aussies), I guess most improving riders move up during the season, rather than between seasons, that didn't happen for Hook cause Workington had a very solid team. Certainly seems a big difference compared to say Luke Harrison, I don't remember any Scunthorpe fans being reluctant to sign him up as a second string even through his away average was far below his home? You've basically answered your questions within your first 2 paragraphs. Hook has improved every year...as a reserve. Fair enough, he isn't a 4pt 1-5 rider who averaged 5.5 at reserve, but equally, how do you know he isn't going to be a 5.5 reserve who averages 4 in the 1-5? A large % of his points came in heat 2s last season, he wouldn't get that opportunity next season. Someone like Luke Harrison is chalk and cheese given he was an 18yo with a single season of Championship racing. Hook is 23 and the question is still being asked if he can manage riding in the top 5. Even Jye Etheridge improved quicker than Hook. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scaramanga Posted 3 hours ago Report Share Posted 3 hours ago 18 hours ago, Neila said: Etheridge has a lower average which was achieved in the main body of the team, hooky average was from reserve, so guess this is why hooky was not invited back, not a fan of etheridge if he is announced, but not my choice, will be still buying a season ticket. UTC🔵⚪ Jye done better than a lot are giving him credit for How many times did he come under away riders on 2nd bend allowing his team mate space to pass or keep position Even putting in good performances late on in season when injured enough he could hardly walk 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supersteady84 Posted 1 hour ago Report Share Posted 1 hour ago (edited) 3 hours ago, Woke23 said: No thankyou. I want nothing to do with Lambert Unfortunately you have no say on the matter 🤣🤣🤣🤣 Edited 1 hour ago by Supersteady84 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JC81 Posted 1 hour ago Report Share Posted 1 hour ago 3 hours ago, Supersteady84 said: Jeppesen Harrison Tate Jye Batch S Lambert Vinnie lambert .No thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2ndbend123 Posted 47 minutes ago Author Report Share Posted 47 minutes ago 4 hours ago, Supersteady84 said: Jeppesen Harrison Tate Jye Batch S Lambert Vinnie That’s a weak team. Lambert is on the downwards spiral also number 2 and 4 weak. 2 hours ago, scaramanga said: Jye done better than a lot are giving him credit for How many times did he come under away riders on 2nd bend allowing his team mate space to pass or keep position Even putting in good performances late on in season when injured enough he could hardly walk Yeah but how many times did he score very low away from home hasn’t improved for me at all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neila Posted 30 minutes ago Report Share Posted 30 minutes ago 4 hours ago, Supersteady84 said: Jeppesen Harrison Tate Jye Batch S Lambert Vinnie If you leave lambo out of the above team you have 4.59 left to play with, unless you get beau bailey think there's a struggle to get a half decent rider to fit into the team Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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