mikebv Posted 7 hours ago Report Share Posted 7 hours ago 11 hours ago, TTT said: I understand what you're saying but Speedway just for the sake of it isn't going to wash in the long run imo. Most meetings over the past decade or so have become pretty much "Speedway for the sake of it"... Given so many promoters fund a hobby plenty of what we have now is "Speedway for the sake of it".. Hence, nothing is even considered to not be fit for purpose, therefore nothing radically changes and each season morphs into the last one.. Without these hobbyists though there wouldn't be Speedway, given there doesn't appear to be a long line of others to take over their tracks.. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldyman Posted 6 hours ago Report Share Posted 6 hours ago 23 minutes ago, mikebv said: Most meetings over the past decade or so have become pretty much "Speedway for the sake of it"... Given so many promoters fund a hobby plenty of what we have now is "Speedway for the sake of it".. Hence, nothing is even considered to not be fit for purpose, therefore nothing radically changes and each season morphs into the last one.. Without these hobbyists though there wouldn't be Speedway, given there doesn't appear to be a long line of others to take over their tracks.. Just shut it down, and everyone can move on with their lives. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted 6 hours ago Report Share Posted 6 hours ago Just now, Baldyman said: Just shut it down, and everyone can move on with their lives. The GP's showed that there is still very much a market out there for Speedway,... Around a million quid would have been taken in ticket sales... The challenge is engaging many of those fans who attended the GP's to attend domestic Speedway regularly.. Me and my lad were stood with four Aces followers who, like us both, don't bother with the run of the mill league racing... There are definitely enough followers out there to significantly improve its position if the sport can sort itself out and engage them.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldyman Posted 6 hours ago Report Share Posted 6 hours ago It's a bit like formula 1,,massive crowds for that, a tiny percentage for club racing 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPEEDY69 Posted 6 hours ago Report Share Posted 6 hours ago I've been to the meeting s at Foxhall this season and haven't noticed any decline from last season. In fact, the new TV screen has added to the experience and once they get interviews onto that for the crowd to hear it will be even better. Some people just love to moan. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aries Posted 4 hours ago Report Share Posted 4 hours ago The loss of Kevin Long on the mic has been massive from my perspective. Can’t be understated what a difference he made to the meeting experience. Huge miss. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1 valve Posted 3 hours ago Report Share Posted 3 hours ago 14 hours ago, TTT said: I understand what you're saying but Speedway just for the sake of it isn't going to wash in the long run imo. In the “long run” I’m hopeful that there becomes a sufficient number of professional promoters who get together to drive the sport as a business profitably onwards and upwards. That said, there’s a lot of water to go under the bridge before that becomes reality. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YeOldPitGate Posted 3 hours ago Report Share Posted 3 hours ago 16 hours ago, 1 valve said: The inclusion of JD would have exceeded the cost budget for riders. Might not be what you want to read, but at least you have a promotion with long term sustainability in mind. A professional promotion not a hobbyist. I'm not privey to any inside info but I thought Ipswich were profitable last year and backed by a wealthy sponsor ,given no Emil to fund this year I would have thought if they wanted Doyle back in theory if crowd numbers have held up and main sponsors are still there they could have afforded him without breaking the bank ? what am I missing ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted 3 hours ago Report Share Posted 3 hours ago 10 minutes ago, YeOldPitGate said: I'm not privey to any inside info but I thought Ipswich were profitable last year and backed by a wealthy sponsor ,given no Emil to fund this year I would have thought if they wanted Doyle back in theory if crowd numbers have held up and main sponsors are still there they could have afforded him without breaking the bank ? what am I missing ? It was simply the delay in confirming what the league would kook like, and if Ipswich were going to be sold... Chris Louis wouldn't countenance a five team league and Northampton was still in the "pending file"... So Jason Doyle decided he needed to make some firm decisions for his season, and couldn't wait for something that "may happen".. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted 3 hours ago Report Share Posted 3 hours ago (edited) 51 minutes ago, 1 valve said: In the “long run” I’m hopeful that there becomes a sufficient number of professional promoters who get together to drive the sport as a business profitably onwards and upwards. That said, there’s a lot of water to go under the bridge before that becomes reality. Mayfield certainly look lke it is very much "business first" which can only be a positive thing for the sport.. As the more who view it as that should hopefully mean challenge and growth... Jeopardy, Consequence, Integrity and Credibility... All professional sports need those characteristics if they ever hope to be successful.... Edited 3 hours ago by mikebv 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YeOldPitGate Posted 2 hours ago Report Share Posted 2 hours ago 40 minutes ago, mikebv said: It was simply the delay in confirming what the league would kook like, and if Ipswich were going to be sold... Chris Louis wouldn't countenance a five team league and Northampton was still in the "pending file"... So Jason Doyle decided he needed to make some firm decisions for his season, and couldn't wait for something that "may happen".. Thanks Mike but I was thinking more if he made himself available to come back now, why as others have suggested Ipswich didn't push to get him back given how much he's loved in Suffolk. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Youhave2minutes Posted 1 hour ago Report Share Posted 1 hour ago 2 hours ago, Aries said: The loss of Kevin Long on the mic has been massive from my perspective. Can’t be understated what a difference he made to the meeting experience. Huge miss. Get Craig Saul he’s great Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Youhave2minutes Posted 1 hour ago Report Share Posted 1 hour ago 2 hours ago, 1 valve said: In the “long run” I’m hopeful that there becomes a sufficient number of professional promoters who get together to drive the sport as a business profitably onwards and upwards. That said, there’s a lot of water to go under the bridge before that becomes reality. 2 hours ago, 1 valve said: In the “long run” I’m hopeful that there becomes a sufficient number of professional promoters who get together to drive the sport as a business profitably onwards and upwards. That said, there’s a lot of water to go under the bridge before that becomes reality. I’m better with a short run. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted 1 hour ago Report Share Posted 1 hour ago 1 hour ago, YeOldPitGate said: Thanks Mike but I was thinking more if he made himself available to come back now, why as others have suggested Ipswich didn't push to get him back given how much he's loved in Suffolk. I presume down to two changes being needed, whereas its a straight swap for Dan at the NSS... If Dan comes back maybe Jason will end up at Ipswich?... Or somewhere else?. Northampton maybe?... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YeOldPitGate Posted 1 hour ago Report Share Posted 1 hour ago 7 minutes ago, mikebv said: I presume down to two changes being needed, whereas its a straight swap for Dan at the NSS... If Dan comes back maybe Jason will end up at Ipswich?... Or somewhere else?. Northampton maybe?... Fair point despite what a few Witches fan's have been saying I don't think their 1-7 is that bad it's pretty solid throughout , if they can get Bangs going he's the key, all be it he's been poor so far, yes Kennet wasn't the greatest message of ambition to send out either, its a real shame they couldn't get Throssell over the line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTT Posted 1 hour ago Author Report Share Posted 1 hour ago 59 minutes ago, YeOldPitGate said: Thanks Mike but I was thinking more if he made himself available to come back now, why as others have suggested Ipswich didn't push to get him back given how much he's loved in Suffolk. That's why I believe the time is right to call Mayfield out now. I can fully understand the pre-season Team Building situation where they were stuck behind the 8 ball but they've literally got nowhere to hide now when they've had two golden opportunities to strengthen the side. Since Day 1, Mayfield have talked a very good game but they haven't backed any of that up with actions imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Racin Jason 72 Posted 51 minutes ago Report Share Posted 51 minutes ago 2 hours ago, YeOldPitGate said: I'm not privey to any inside info but I thought Ipswich were profitable last year and backed by a wealthy sponsor ,given no Emil to fund this year I would have thought if they wanted Doyle back in theory if crowd numbers have held up and main sponsors are still there they could have afforded him without breaking the bank ? what am I missing ? The balance sheet is in deficit before a wheel was turned. £70k lost due to no tv deal and a further £30k for a new air fence. No emil which would affect attendance and a repetive league. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted 38 minutes ago Report Share Posted 38 minutes ago 8 minutes ago, Racin Jason 72 said: The balance sheet is in deficit before a wheel was turned. £70k lost due to no tv deal and a further £30k for a new air fence. No emil which would affect attendance and a repetive league. A £100k net minus v last years' numbers from moment one.... 5,000 extra punters needed to pull that back, just to "stand still"... And not too many meetings to do it in either... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowboy cookie returns? Posted 33 minutes ago Report Share Posted 33 minutes ago Next year will be the acid test. They will need to to back up their words with a couple of top riders. Will they try and persuade Emil & Jason to return if not they need to go down that sort of route. It does all feel a bit flat this year no real spark to ignite it. They also need to work on a new presentation team for 27. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chun Posted 31 minutes ago Report Share Posted 31 minutes ago I’d expect mayfield to look to hold a GP at foxhall next year. Has a bigger capacity than the NSS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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