foreverblue Posted 3 hours ago Report Share Posted 3 hours ago 43 minutes ago, Bagpuss said: I don't think last year had anything to do with Boughen/Scott/Harrison and everything to do with Cook and the key meetings Kvech missed, particularly BV away. As for this year, I get your Paco fears but I think you and many others are/will be underestimating what Scott & Rushen are capable of. Scott proved he is progressing and capable but not sure he can beat the Leicester reserves, obviously I hope Rushen is going to be fantastic as he will be riding for Poole but a big jump from Championship reserve to Premiership reserve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted 3 hours ago Report Share Posted 3 hours ago (edited) 37 minutes ago, Tim G said: Cook was more of a problem than Boughen. How you can blame a RS for Kings Lynn’s lack of success last season is a ridiculous statement. I’m sure you won’t be blaming Cairns if Belle Vue don’t win anything. I hope Belle Vue don't win anything!! Boughen was a issue and agree so was Cook. Edited 3 hours ago by foreverblue 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted 3 hours ago Report Share Posted 3 hours ago 2 hours ago, speedwayfan8 said: Who’s to say Douglas isn’t up to the task of taking no.1? Had a world class season last year. He did not have a world class season last season, he had a good season. He's not in the GP's Didn't make the SGP Challenge Not in the SoN team Not in the Ekstraliga Couldn't achieve an 8 point average in the PL Couldn't achieve a 7 point average away from home in the PL 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted 2 hours ago Report Share Posted 2 hours ago 8 minutes ago, IainB said: He did not have a world class season last season, he had a good season. He's not in the GP's Didn't make the SGP Challenge Not in the SoN team Not in the Ekstraliga Couldn't achieve an 8 point average in the PL Couldn't achieve a 7 point average away from home in the PL I think he is a good reliable rider though and can mix it with the best on his day but I wouldn't expect him to be your number one all season, Masters should be your number one later in the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted 2 hours ago Report Share Posted 2 hours ago (edited) 15 minutes ago, IainB said: He did not have a world class season last season, he had a good season. He's not in the GP's Didn't make the SGP Challenge Not in the SoN team Not in the Ekstraliga Couldn't achieve an 8 point average in the PL Couldn't achieve a 7 point average away from home in the PL And didn't have to ride in heat one several times a season from gate four!!! A race that can often be an average killer for a number one given the level of the opposition's No1 and both No2's, who gate inside you on a one line fresh track... Edited 2 hours ago by mikebv 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted 2 hours ago Report Share Posted 2 hours ago 3 minutes ago, mikebv said: And didn't have to ride in heat one several times a season from gate four!!! A race that can often be an average killer for a number one given the level of the opposition's No1 and both No2's, who gate inside you on a one line fresh track... ... and didn't appear in a single heat 13 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barrow Boy 2 Posted 2 hours ago Report Share Posted 2 hours ago 25 minutes ago, IainB said: He did not have a world class season last season, he had a good season. He's not in the GP's Didn't make the SGP Challenge Not in the SoN team Not in the Ekstraliga Couldn't achieve an 8 point average in the PL Couldn't achieve a 7 point average away from home in the PL His actual average for all matches ridden in 2025 is 8.51 according to BSPA's rider statistics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted 2 hours ago Report Share Posted 2 hours ago 9 minutes ago, IainB said: ... and didn't appear in a single heat 13 So... A "World Class" season, not racing three times in five rides against World Class riders? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted 2 hours ago Report Share Posted 2 hours ago 4 minutes ago, Barrow Boy 2 said: His actual average for all matches ridden in 2025 is 8.51 according to BSPA's rider statistics. I prefer to look at his actual points scored rather than the concoction that the BSPL use... Averages M R Pts BP Tot Av inc BP Av no BP 1st 2nd 3rd 4th Fell Ret Exc Tape 2min All 34 166 329 21 350 8.43 7.93 71 43 30 17 0 2 2 1 0 Home 17 84 187 11 198 9.43 8.90 44 21 13 5 0 1 0 0 0 Away 17 82 142 10 152 7.41 6.93 27 22 17 12 0 1 2 1 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YeOldPitGate Posted 2 hours ago Report Share Posted 2 hours ago 1 hour ago, Bagpuss said: I don't think last year had anything to do with Boughen/Scott/Harrison and everything to do with Cook and the key meetings Kvech missed, particularly BV away. As for this year, I get your Paco fears but I think you and many others are/will be underestimating what Scott & Rushen are capable of. Agreed Bagpuss so long as they both don't start over riding in the early part of the season and avoid big smashes also they both should be core England regulars in 5-7 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTT Posted 1 hour ago Author Report Share Posted 1 hour ago 2 hours ago, Bagpuss said: I don't think last year had anything to do with Boughen/Scott/Harrison and everything to do with Cook and the key meetings Kvech missed, particularly BV away. As for this year, I get your Paco fears but I think you and many others are/will be underestimating what Scott & Rushen are capable of. I personally think KL fans are overrating their own side due to them going with the Young Stars duo at reserve. Granted the youngsters are ones for the future but they've basically got no experience riding at PREM level so asking them to out gate and out race experienced season pro's is more than a long shot imo. Difference between racing against NDL or CHAMP 2nd Strings to riding against riders who ride against top quality opposition week in and week out whether it's in DEN, POL or SWE. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTT Posted 1 hour ago Author Report Share Posted 1 hour ago 1 hour ago, IainB said: I prefer to look at his actual points scored rather than the concoction that the BSPL use... Averages M R Pts BP Tot Av inc BP Av no BP 1st 2nd 3rd 4th Fell Ret Exc Tape 2min All 34 166 329 21 350 8.43 7.93 71 43 30 17 0 2 2 1 0 Home 17 84 187 11 198 9.43 8.90 44 21 13 5 0 1 0 0 0 Away 17 82 142 10 152 7.41 6.93 27 22 17 12 0 1 2 1 0 Basically is a No.1 in a weaker League then where the Team Limit has dropped by 3.00 points. More 1st Places than 2nd, 3rd and 4th's both at Home and Away in a stronger League where the Team Limit was set at 40.00. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted 1 hour ago Report Share Posted 1 hour ago (edited) 16 minutes ago, TTT said: Basically is a No.1 in a weaker League then where the Team Limit has dropped by 3.00 points. More 1st Places than 2nd, 3rd and 4th's both at Home and Away in a stronger League where the Team Limit was set at 40.00. Not for me when the other number 1's are Holder, Bewley, Fricke and probably Kurtz to sign for somebody. Douglas is nowhere near that level at the moment. Edited 1 hour ago by IainB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted 58 minutes ago Report Share Posted 58 minutes ago 14 minutes ago, IainB said: Not for me when the other number 1's are Holder, Bewley, Fricke and probably Kurtz to sign for somebody. Douglas is nowhere near that level at the moment. Basically your dropping an out and out No1 for a strength in depth Team though. Can’t have it both ways with lower limit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted 51 minutes ago Report Share Posted 51 minutes ago 3 minutes ago, Fromafar said: Basically your dropping an out and out No1 for a strength in depth Team though. Can’t have it both ways with lower limit. I realise that, you generally have to go a long way back in history to find a successful team that has competed without a genuine number 1, except for Peterborough which I've already gone over... especially with the current race format Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted 31 minutes ago Report Share Posted 31 minutes ago 18 minutes ago, IainB said: I realise that, you generally have to go a long way back in history to find a successful team that has competed without a genuine number 1, except for Peterborough which I've already gone over... especially with the current race format It’s a very poor Premiership. How they couldn’t have worked out a One League situation . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted 19 minutes ago Report Share Posted 19 minutes ago 52 minutes ago, IainB said: Not for me when the other number 1's are Holder, Bewley, Fricke and probably Kurtz to sign for somebody. Douglas is nowhere near that level at the moment. Yes but Masters and Douglas are easily capable of beating everyone else apart from the opposition number one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTT Posted 1 minute ago Author Report Share Posted 1 minute ago 59 minutes ago, IainB said: Not for me when the other number 1's are Holder, Bewley, Fricke and probably Kurtz to sign for somebody. Douglas is nowhere near that level at the moment. He's not granted but what I will say is that Douglas wasn't signed to be an out and out No.1. Stewart didn't want a long tail with Fricke at No.1, King's Lynn aren't gaining anything with a tail end of Paco, Rushen and Scott. Despite Leicester having no out and out No.1, The Lions should be very difficult to beat and score heat advantages against. Basically got..... 2 x Established PREM Heat Leaders (Douglas and Masters) 4 x Top end CHAMP Heat Leaders (D. Thompson, N. Morris, Howarth and Kemp?) I include Nick as he's on a false GSA imo. 1 x CHAMP 2nd String (Gilkes) who's one of the better RS's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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