lewy Posted yesterday at 02:10 PM Report Share Posted yesterday at 02:10 PM Just now, foreverblue said: Maybe they should have tried harder, success would mean more gate money Yeah whatever 🤡 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biffa Posted yesterday at 03:24 PM Report Share Posted yesterday at 03:24 PM So on the strengthening subject, I don’t know averages current or start of year, I presume All Teams could only do a like for like or re-declare. So for example using Scunthorpe as the example as we are on their thread,they couldn’t sign anyone over an 8 point average, as that would make 2riders over 8. So in theory all signings must now be 7.99 or under, unless you’re dropping your No1? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Johnson Posted yesterday at 03:41 PM Report Share Posted yesterday at 03:41 PM 10 minutes ago, Biffa said: So on the strengthening subject, I don’t know averages current or start of year, I presume All Teams could only do a like for like or re-declare. So for example using Scunthorpe as the example as we are on their thread,they couldn’t sign anyone over an 8 point average, as that would make 2riders over 8. So in theory all signings must now be 7.99 or under, unless you’re dropping your No1? Yes you could only sign 1 over 8pt rider,u can have all 8s if they upped their averages, i think thats why we wanted kemp as he was under 8,,like for like is ok for one rider but anymore you have to stick to 40. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted yesterday at 04:35 PM Report Share Posted yesterday at 04:35 PM 1 hour ago, Biffa said: So on the strengthening subject, I don’t know averages current or start of year, I presume All Teams could only do a like for like or re-declare. So for example using Scunthorpe as the example as we are on their thread,they couldn’t sign anyone over an 8 point average, as that would make 2riders over 8. So in theory all signings must now be 7.99 or under, unless you’re dropping your No1? I'm pretty sure the 8 point rule was for initial declarations, so any team should be able to sign a second 8 pointer now, if there's anyone available that is? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fortythirtyeight Posted yesterday at 05:21 PM Report Share Posted yesterday at 05:21 PM 3 hours ago, foreverblue said: Maybe they should have tried harder, success would mean more gate money Workington went bust winning the league. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Johnson Posted yesterday at 05:23 PM Report Share Posted yesterday at 05:23 PM Just now, Fortythirtyeight said: Workington went bust winning the league. Didnt Glasgow nearly years ago? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted yesterday at 05:32 PM Report Share Posted yesterday at 05:32 PM 7 minutes ago, Fortythirtyeight said: Workington went bust winning the league. I am sure Scunthorpe could have strengthened without going bankrupt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fortythirtyeight Posted yesterday at 05:35 PM Report Share Posted yesterday at 05:35 PM 1 minute ago, foreverblue said: I am sure Scunthorpe could have strengthened without going bankrupt. If you knew your speedway history you would know thumping teams doesn’t necessarily mean an increase in the attendance but does mean a very large increase in your wage bill. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted yesterday at 06:11 PM Report Share Posted yesterday at 06:11 PM 6 hours ago, YeOldPitGate said: And that'd the issue Rob will only offer a packet of fags which is great from a sustainability point of view but equally a shame as if they dropped Ablitt and got in Vuolas they should be pretty much unbeatable at home all season barring injuries (possibly Poole aside). We have already lost there though. Although cup tie was pretty much done anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singy13 Posted yesterday at 06:16 PM Report Share Posted yesterday at 06:16 PM 42 minutes ago, Fortythirtyeight said: Workington went bust winning the league. i don't think winning the treble in 2018 was why the club went bust. Granted though that may have been the 'final nail' as they say. But in reality Laura was losing funds faster than snow off a dyke during seasons before 2018....I was told by a staff person that crowds were down to 300/400 before 2018. Laura Morgan bravely kept things going while obviously hoping for the upturn that never came. She wasn't the first Comets owner to lose big style, speedway can be so hard to bear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted yesterday at 07:04 PM Report Share Posted yesterday at 07:04 PM 1 hour ago, Fortythirtyeight said: If you knew your speedway history you would know thumping teams doesn’t necessarily mean an increase in the attendance but does mean a very large increase in your wage bill. If you knew your speedway history, getting beaten every week usually means a drop off in attendance. Winning at home is vital for attendances. You don't have to thump them just win and win on aggregate if you can. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted yesterday at 07:16 PM Report Share Posted yesterday at 07:16 PM 3 minutes ago, foreverblue said: If you knew your speedway history, getting beaten every week usually means a drop off in attendance. Winning at home is vital for attendances. You don't have to thump them just win and win on aggregate if you can. The sport is down to its die hards... Winning the majority of meetings at home is the only priority for many promoters... Do that, and crowds will stay pretty much the same... There is zero big reward for winning any league, so why risk the clubs ongoing existence by spending money it hasn't budgeted for?... A title winning team at the majority of clubs won't generate much extra income, so why bother given their outgoings will increase .. Workington, when they won the treble, would have budgeted for around 90 points (like most do) for their home and away meetings, and ended up with a team that often battered the opposition at home, and often scored 40+ away... Their crowd numbers didn't cover that "success"... Only 15 clubs are left, so all need to cut their cloth accordingly as to what they can afford... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wee Eck Posted 23 hours ago Report Share Posted 23 hours ago 3 hours ago, Paul Johnson said: Didnt Glasgow nearly years ago? Not after winning the league. Worky had been living way beyond their means for several seasons so their bankruptcy was not unexpected. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted 10 hours ago Report Share Posted 10 hours ago On 5/23/2026 at 10:58 AM, eric i said: I don't understand it, everyone knew Picko's average was going to drop 2 points, he should have been sounding riders out last winter, he could have chanced a kid from Europe on 7 point average. The Ironic thing is David Howe was in speedway star the other week saying that if all the team were to perform to their average they will be fine but they are all performing to their average, its just he and Godfrey has built a team 2points below the limit. Totally agree with this take. I can't think of an obvious rider to drop (including Lambert) they were all riding close to their averages, but the team was 2 points weaker than all the others. For all the stick MPT gets, what do fans expect putting a 6 point rider at number 5? Mountain maybe the biggest underachiever, plus Harrison away from home, but they've all had good & poor matches, so hope is there they can turn it around? Now Ingram is flying, especially at home, they're kinda back on a par with most teams (built to the limit) Ingrams improvement cancelling out Pickering's average drop. Had they managed to find a heat leader to replace a second string, they'd look a decent bet for a play-offs spot. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eric i Posted 5 hours ago Report Share Posted 5 hours ago I said this last December.... On 12/12/2025 at 12:55 PM, eric i said: Pickering's last Championship average was 9.42, Scunny will have a further 2 points to play with on the 1st of May, they will need to make a ruthless change early if they are going to be competitive. It was 1st of April, when Pickering's average dropped giving us 1.66 points, from 1st of may we had 2.02 points, when Gilkes signed we 2.21. If Godfrey was going down this route of signing Pickering(probably the most expensive rider in the league) he had all winter to sound out another heat leader. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biffa Posted 2 hours ago Report Share Posted 2 hours ago So like the question I asked earlier, can you sign a second rider over 8 points? Has Rob been stopped from doing this? Or does nobody else want to sign for Scunthorpe🤷♂️. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biffa Posted 2 hours ago Report Share Posted 2 hours ago Could Redcar re introduce Charles Wright again & keep Nicolai Klindt? Great if they could but doesn’t sit right with me personally🤷♂️( Redcar Fan) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Sidney Posted 1 hour ago Report Share Posted 1 hour ago 35 minutes ago, Biffa said: So like the question I asked earlier, can you sign a second rider over 8 points? Has Rob been stopped from doing this? Or does nobody else want to sign for Scunthorpe🤷♂️. https://britishspeedway.co.uk/miscellaneous/british-speedway-agm-statement-3/ The statement from the AGM only refers to the 'initial declaration '. I can't find anything in the Regulations that prevents a second signing over 8 after that 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Paul Johnson Posted 28 minutes ago Report Share Posted 28 minutes ago 1 hour ago, Biffa said: So like the question I asked earlier, can you sign a second rider over 8 points? Has Rob been stopped from doing this? Or does nobody else want to sign for Scunthorpe🤷♂️. Probably the latter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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